BFTG -Crawley

[Big Foot]

anR - that chant is just the dambusters with the last line being 'we all bloody* hate Oxford United'

* may actually be a different word, censorship has been applied for the sensitive souls who may be reading

[Big Foot]

the group of lads singing Basement Jaxx - Where's your head at to Guthrie

Thought RFC were good value for the win to be honest. Never thought we'd let the lead slip and if anything I thought we might put another one or two away.

Crawley got off to a great start but were very limited after that, couple of decent pings aside.

Can't disagree with any of that - thought Le Fondre looked good for another goal and we cut them open more often than a swinging advertising board, just couldn't put the chances away.

[Royal Lady]

For The Record - no, I wasn't there yesterday - but that doesn't mean I can't condemn those who think it's perfectly acceptable to behave so anti-socially. Sure, "only" one bloke got hit by the advertising hoardings - but that was probably more luck than judgement. No-one should be condoning racist comments, bully boy posturing or causing damage.

However, according to my informants, the nobbers that they recognised at the game appeared to be innocent.

I've seen trouble on the terraces at Elm Park - but it never involved our own fans amongst themselves. I didn't like it then and I wouldn't like to witness it now and if I want, as a fan of this club, to condemn those that caused trouble, I jolly well will do. Thank you.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

In all fairness I didn't see them chucking them around I saw them passing it around the fans which just seemed like a bit of fun.

There were at least two boards pulled into the crowd. On behind the goal did seem to be just held in the air, but one down the side was the one that was thrown backwards into the fans.

if it affected people that much then there really is something wrong with them.

Yeah, for my mate to bleed like that was a really poor reaction to a bit of fun.

you've gotta question the decision making process of a grown man who doesn't like what he sees around him and doesn't move to another part of the stand

Absolutely. It's these stupid people who don't think racist abuse and aggression is funny who are in the wrong.

[winchester_royal]

I'm glad you lot don't support, say, any other club in the country because if you think yday was bad you'd be absolutely fcking terrified every time you went to an away game.

Absolute nonsense.

Yesterday put any chances of Reading FC supporting safe-standing back at least 5 years.

Yeah, because a few blokes held lightweight advertising boards above their heads? You massive drama queen.

Yeah, that's all that happened yesterday.

You honestly think RFC are going to support safe-standing when the last time their fans went to a terrace 3 fans got chucked out and were fighting within themselves?

They are aiming for the family market. They'll care about what happened yesterday even if most of us don't.

[leicsRoyal]

I wasn't there yesterday so can only comment on this thread and what I have heard and this thread seems well and truly OTT, with links to the seventies and advertising hoardings being launched.........really?

Of course there is no room for racist chanting and I would imagine that Crawley keep a careful eye on this themselves. I'm sure the stewards are fully aware to report such incidents.

Nearly 2,000 away fans mostly packed onto a terracing amongst a total crowd of 5,800, I'm not suprised there was a bit of niggle and upset but that's pretty much all it sounds and not a cunning plan to drag the club back three or four decades.

[West Stand Man]

Sounds like a number of people were never in the Southbank in the 70/80s, or for that at most away games.

Yesterday was a kids tea party

I was on the S Bank at that time. It was, generally, pretty peaceful. There was the odd excursion into real nastiness but it was not that bad.

I wasn't , however, there yesterday so can't compare. Comparisons are pretty pointless though. If it was unacceptable behaviour by today's standards then who cares what was done 30 years ago.

[sandman]

I HATE HOW WE'VE TURNED INTO SUCH A FAMILY CLUB! KINGSLEY AND QUEENSLEY, FACE PAINTING AND SONG SHEETS. WE'RE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE COUNTRY. I SAY WE SHOULD BRING BACK THE GOOD OLD DAYS! What?... Someone threw an advertising hoarding. BRING BACK HANGING, THIS AIN'T THE 70'S YOU KNOW, I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL! That or get a banning order either will do.

[winchester_royal]

Nearly 2,000 away fans mostly packed onto a terracing amongst a total crowd of 5,800, I'm not suprised there was a bit of niggle and upset but that's pretty much all it sounds and not a cunning plan to drag the club back three or four decades.

Where has anyone said that?

All we've been saying is that it's a shame a few Reading fans aren't able to handle their drink and enjoy what was a fantastic away day, and as a result ruined the game for an unlucky few around them (not me personally but I know some who were).

It's a shame that this still happens in football, but I guess there are still a few blokes angry at life that see alcohol and football thuggery as the cure to all their problems.

Still, those guys >>>>>>> fleece wearing mong day trippers eh?

[madreadingfan]

In all fairness I didn't see them chucking them around I saw them passing it around the fans which just seemed like a bit of fun.

There were at least two boards pulled into the crowd. On behind the goal did seem to be just held in the air, but one down the side was the one that was thrown backwards into the fans.

if it affected people that much then there really is something wrong with them.

Yeah, for my mate to bleed like that was a really poor reaction to a bit of fun.

you've gotta question the decision making process of a grown man who doesn't like what he sees around him and doesn't move to another part of the stand

Absolutely. It's these stupid people who don't think racist abuse and aggression is funny who are in the wrong.

I meant for people to emphasise these minor incidents which affected them so badly from the game yesterday rather then to talk about the results, players and atmosphere then there is something really wrong with them. With the exception of your mate of course which I am sorry to hear!

[leicsRoyal]

Nearly 2,000 away fans mostly packed onto a terracing amongst a total crowd of 5,800, I'm not suprised there was a bit of niggle and upset but that's pretty much all it sounds and not a cunning plan to drag the club back three or four decades.

Where has anyone said that?

All we've been saying is that it's a shame a few Reading fans aren't able to handle their drink and enjoy what was a fantastic away day, and as a result ruined the game for an unlucky few around them (not me personally but I know some who were).

It's a shame that this still happens in football, but I guess there are still a few blokes angry at life that see alcohol and football thuggery as the cure to all their problems.

Still, those guys >>>>>>> fleece wearing mong day trippers eh?

What I am trying to say is that I agree with most of what has been said but it is not a real suprise that there was a bit of disturbance with so many away fans, a 3pm Saturday kick off, the 3rd round of the cup and a packed terrace.
Some are reacting as if we tore the stand down and ran the length of the pitch to square up with the home fans.

Racist chanting should be dealt with and I'm sure will be.
Throwing an advertising hoarding, yes stupid, and it's not really hard to identify someone with such a large chunk of wood in their hands.
Couple of scuffles, sounds like it sorted itself out.

Have Crawley, club or fans, mentioned anything of these incidents?

[sandman]

In all seriousness I couldn't think of anything scarier than getting ''the glare'' from PaultheRoyal.

[winchester_royal]

Nearly 2,000 away fans mostly packed onto a terracing amongst a total crowd of 5,800, I'm not suprised there was a bit of niggle and upset but that's pretty much all it sounds and not a cunning plan to drag the club back three or four decades.

Where has anyone said that?

All we've been saying is that it's a shame a few Reading fans aren't able to handle their drink and enjoy what was a fantastic away day, and as a result ruined the game for an unlucky few around them (not me personally but I know some who were).

It's a shame that this still happens in football, but I guess there are still a few blokes angry at life that see alcohol and football thuggery as the cure to all their problems.

Still, those guys >>>>>>> fleece wearing mong day trippers eh?

What I am trying to say is that I agree with most of what has been said but it is not a real suprise that there was a bit of disturbance with so many away fans, a 3pm Saturday kick off, the 3rd round of the cup and a packed terrace.
Some are reacting as if we tore the stand down and ran the length of the pitch to square up with the home fans.

Racist chanting should be dealt with and I'm sure will be.
Throwing an advertising hoarding, yes stupid, and it's not really hard to identify someone with such a large chunk of wood in their hands.
Couple of scuffles, sounds like it sorted itself out.

Have Crawley, club or fans, mentioned anything of these incidents?

It surprised me, in all the away games I've been I've never seen fans start smacking each other with little kids around. Maybe I'm just naive..

It wasn't racist 'chanting' - just the odd comment. Won't be dealt with.

It may be hard to identify those chucking it around, and I'm not suggesting those who were chucking it around are punished in any way. However a guy standing on a terrace watching the game was injured because of it - a shame.

The scuffles didn't 'sort themselves out'. It took 5 steward to launch themselves over a barrier and straight into the middle to stop it.

For me it's not about Crawley, I'm sure they've seen worse, it's just about the fact that we have a minority of fans who think that football matches are still an excuse to abandon social protocol and act like pricks. It's not. Football games should be about a fantastic atmosphere, supporting the team, the odd bit of stress relief by shouting obscenities at the ref etc.. However not at the expense of making other fans uncomfortable.

[boycey]

Creepy Crawley.
Let the kids have their fun.

[PieEater]

I was near the corner but didn't get a good view of the incidents. The first chucking out looked like a bit of a scuffle, the second looked like the guy was pushed over the barrier and then took um-bridge at being man handled out. I steward with the spikey hair looked to be itching to chuck anyone out and get involved, all I heard was lots of shouts for him and others to get out of the way so we could see the game.

You can see why we chose to get people in the concourse rather than wade into the crowd (and hat's off the to the guy with glasses for jumping the fence and wading in)

Decent day out, good pub, free parking and a good result on what could have been a banana skin.

[leicsRoyal]

For me it's not about Crawley, I'm sure they've seen worse, it's just about the fact that we have a minority of fans who think that football matches are still an excuse to abandon social protocol and act like pricks. It's not. Football games should be about a fantastic atmosphere, supporting the team, the odd bit of stress relief by shouting obscenities at the ref etc.. However not at the expense of making other fans uncomfortable.

We always have had a handful of fans and always will have, even in the 80's on the Southbank it wasn't really much more than a handful.
I would imagine that 'fans' that behave in this way don't really just save it up for a football match.

[winchester_royal]

For me it's not about Crawley, I'm sure they've seen worse, it's just about the fact that we have a minority of fans who think that football matches are still an excuse to abandon social protocol and act like pricks. It's not. Football games should be about a fantastic atmosphere, supporting the team, the odd bit of stress relief by shouting obscenities at the ref etc.. However not at the expense of making other fans uncomfortable.

We always have had a handful of fans and always will have, even in the 80's on the Southbank it wasn't really much more than a handful.
I would imagine that 'fans' that behave in this way don't really just save it up for a football match.

Oh I'm sure you're right, but that doesn't make it any less disappointing to see.

The Olympics seem like a long time ago now.

[leicsRoyal]

For me it's not about Crawley, I'm sure they've seen worse, it's just about the fact that we have a minority of fans who think that football matches are still an excuse to abandon social protocol and act like pricks. It's not. Football games should be about a fantastic atmosphere, supporting the team, the odd bit of stress relief by shouting obscenities at the ref etc.. However not at the expense of making other fans uncomfortable.

We always have had a handful of fans and always will have, even in the 80's on the Southbank it wasn't really much more than a handful.
I would imagine that 'fans' that behave in this way don't really just save it up for a football match.

Oh I'm sure you're right, but that doesn't make it any less disappointing to see.

The Olympics seem like a long time ago now.

[Maguire]

Anywhere people drink sees a bit of a dust up from time to time. I've seen fisticuffs all over town at some point or other, almost always not related to football.

Did you people never go to school? There were fights all the time at school (and I went to a soft one), it's human nature. Why act so disgusted just because one fella was off his box on a football terrace?

[Maguire]

IIRC a dude was in court this week for launching a bottle at the start of the men's 100m final.

These Olympic hooligans sicken me.