Player of the Season

[Ian Royal]

terrible three

but then most RFC fans are massive mongers

Not sure it'd be my 3 but it's hardly surprising.

HRK has the most Prem goals from midfield of a Reading player ever. ALF has the most Prem goals as a sub (ever?). McCarthy has been grabbing the headlines in recent weeks and looks to be the only player likely to be poached by a big club.

You're the monger if you can't see why these 3 might be popular.

Apart from Harper. And Stephen Hunt.

[MouldyRoyal]

terrible three

but then most RFC fans are massive mongers

Not sure it'd be my 3 but it's hardly surprising.

HRK has the most Prem goals from midfield of a Reading player ever. ALF has the most Prem goals as a sub (ever?). McCarthy has been grabbing the headlines in recent weeks and looks to be the only player likely to be poached by a big club.

You're the monger if you can't see why these 3 might be popular.

Apart from Harper. And Stephen Hunt.

Apologies, I mean the most in one season, same for ALF. I thought that was fairly obvious. Of course this is misleading as HRK has played further forward Harper and Hunt in some matches.

[RoyalinBracknell]

or if i shift my usual criteria to reflect the way the season has gone it would be......ALF, Mcanuff, HRK

So by some criteria you got 2 of the 3 into your reckoning?!

Personally I voted for Robson-Kanu. I didn't really rate him at all before this season but I think he's definitely been our most improved player and I've really enjoyed watching him this year. He's been our top scorer in Adkins' reign, must be our top goalscoring midfielder across the season with 7/8 goals?, and I think he's found a new position for himself on the right-hand side. He's been one of the bright sparks of the season in my view.

That said, I'm very surprised he's actually come in the top 3. I'd imagine McCarthy or Le Fondre (most probably the latter) will ultimately win the award. Whilst they haven't played that much, they have produced some of the most exciting moments of the season; most notably McCarthy against the likes of Swansea and Liverpool, and Le Fondre against the likes of Newcastle and Chelsea. I'd be interested to see an overall tally of MOTM awards for this season (though obviously these in themselves are always subjective.) I think voting forms were also made availalbe at the Liverpool game which quite probably influenced some supporters - there's probably always a certain short-termist recollection about this voting. McCarthy was outstanding in that match and Le Fondre has broken a goalscoring record of some kind so it's not as if any of them have been awful. Personally I think all 3 have been bright sparks this season and I hope they play a big part for us next year, so I'm happy about their nominations from that perspective if nothing else.

I think this year has probably been rare in that not playing much has probably had its advantages! Not only has it resulted in some players not being associated as extensively with the problems we've had, it's also allowed the feeling/myth (call it what you will) to develp that if these players had played more we might have done better etc.

Of course there has also been very few - if any - individuals who have been fully consistent. There'd be relatively few players who I'd have been surprised if they'd ended up in the top 3 - really it could have gone any way. I thought Tabb and particularly Shorey were very good in the first half of the season, Mariappa's impressed me at times but our defence has been our main weakness so... I think McAnuff's the main one who's unlucky to miss out. I believe he's got more assists out of all our players and I think he's had some very good performancs at times; being captain has perhaps drawn unfair negative attention to him.

[No Fixed Abode]

Got to be Le Fondre surely? If it wasn't for his goals, Reading would probably be the worst team in Premier League history.

[TFF]

Oh well. At least voting for Mariappa means I don't risk having to drink all that Fosters.

[P!ssed Off]

i can see people liking them, and thinking they have done well. but none of them are anywhere near even being elligible in my mind.

a keeper who hardly played, a winger who hardly played and a striker who hardly played

Maybe people believe that had they played more we might have done better. As opposed to voting for players who played a starring role in our dreadful season.

[P!ssed Off]

Amazing. They've started 11 games each all season. Shows you how shit the rest of the team are

Just think about that for one moment

Our player of the season has started 11 games

What the f*ck was McDermott doing with his team selections?

Or, if you look at it from another perspective;

our fans are stupid enough to think a player who has hardly started this season is the player of the season rather than one who started every game?

Let's face it, UKIP got votes last week. That could indicate how undemanding the average UK voter is.

Do you think this season was a success or something? Those that started every game are seen by many as most culpable for this generally pathetic season.

[P!ssed Off]

Le Fondre is a worthy contender, HRK has been immense in recent weeks and we all know how good McCarthy is, BUT the first two have been inconsistent and McCarthy missed a hell of a lot of the season.

Hope Alfie gets it now but shocked as I thought Jobi would walk it this year.

Maybe you thought he deserved to win, but I'm not sure why you thought he would win a popularity contest with the fans.
If you went to games you would quickly discover that seemingly the majority of fans don't rate him, though the last few games he's played quite well.

[LightwaterRoyal]

Le Fondre is a worthy contender, HRK has been immense in recent weeks and we all know how good McCarthy is, BUT the first two have been inconsistent and McCarthy missed a hell of a lot of the season.

Hope Alfie gets it now but shocked as I thought Jobi would walk it this year.

Maybe you thought he deserved to win, but I'm not sure why you thought he would win a popularity contest with the fans.
If you went to games you would quickly discover that seemingly the majority of fans don't rate him, though the last few games he's played quite well.

I think its more the fact that I dont just focus on goals and assists when evaluating a players performance. The same reason I rate Pog, Hunt and Guthrie more than most of the HNA? mongs.

I find it hard to believe that a player who has consistently put everything into his performances and played every game would get less votes than three players who have been very inconsistent (McCarthy aside) and sometime anonymous.

[melonhead]

or if i shift my usual criteria to reflect the way the season has gone it would be......ALF, Mcanuff, HRK

So by some criteria you got 2 of the 3 into your reckoning?!

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yeah, but totally ignoring the hugely important(in my mind) criteria of having played alot of the games.
i simply cannot bring myself to give a vote for someone who has played 11 games. :

HRK has been very decent recently, and has had the odd period of quality before that. i like him, he has the lot imo.
mcarthy has been exceptional.
ALF probably deserves it, since he has produced pretty much when ever asked to, but even when he was scoring he was playing 30 mins tops.when he started he hasnt shone above and beyond anyone else imo


i understand people having their own criteria, but i just cant see how anyones criteria for player of "THE SEASON" could go for anyone who wasnt present for most of it.(unless its the joke nomination of brynaldo)
but hey ho. diferent strokes etc

[melonhead]

i can see people liking them, and thinking they have done well. but none of them are anywhere near even being elligible in my mind.

a keeper who hardly played, a winger who hardly played and a striker who hardly played

Maybe people believe that had they played more we might have done better. As opposed to voting for players who played a starring role in our dreadful season.

so they get a player of the season award based on imagined possible performances in games they didnt play in? fair eneogh........

[melonhead]

Le Fondre is a worthy contender, HRK has been immense in recent weeks and we all know how good McCarthy is, BUT the first two have been inconsistent and McCarthy missed a hell of a lot of the season.

Hope Alfie gets it now but shocked as I thought Jobi would walk it this year.

Maybe you thought he deserved to win, but I'm not sure why you thought he would win a popularity contest with the fans.
If you went to games you would quickly discover that seemingly the majority of fans don't rate him, though the last few games he's played quite well.

a very tiny but noisy minority of morons

[P!ssed Off]

or if i shift my usual criteria to reflect the way the season has gone it would be......ALF, Mcanuff, HRK

So by some criteria you got 2 of the 3 into your reckoning?!

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yeah, but totally ignoring the hugely important(in my mind) criteria of having played alot of the games.
i simply cannot bring myself to give a vote for someone who has played 11 games. :

HRK has been very decent recently, and has had the odd period of quality before that. i like him, he has the lot imo.
mcarthy has been exceptional.
ALF probably deserves it, since he has produced pretty much when ever asked to, but even when he was scoring he was playing 30 mins tops.when he started he hasnt shone above and beyond anyone else imo


i understand people having their own criteria, but i just cant see how anyones criteria for player of "THE SEASON" could go for anyone who wasnt present for most of it.(unless its the joke nomination of brynaldo)
but hey ho. diferent strokes etc

If you have a great season then the players that play every game are seen as most responsible for the great season. Those that don't play very much are seen as least responsible.

By the same logic, if you have a shit season then the players that play every game are seen as most responsible for the shit season (i.e. McAnuff, Leigertwood). Those that don't play very much are seen as least responsible (i.e. McCarthy, Robson-Kanu).

The fans do not associate the fact that this season has been shit with McCarthy, HRK and ALF due to their lack of starts/lack of minutes.

[melonhead]

lol. thats not a logical progression of thought.

best player of the season CANNOT mean who would have been the best if he had played, which he didnt

[P!ssed Off]

Le Fondre is a worthy contender, HRK has been immense in recent weeks and we all know how good McCarthy is, BUT the first two have been inconsistent and McCarthy missed a hell of a lot of the season.

Hope Alfie gets it now but shocked as I thought Jobi would walk it this year.

Maybe you thought he deserved to win, but I'm not sure why you thought he would win a popularity contest with the fans.
If you went to games you would quickly discover that seemingly the majority of fans don't rate him, though the last few games he's played quite well.

a very tiny but noisy minority of morons

No. Whether you think the criticism of McAnuff is unwarranted or not, it is pointless pretending that it is "a minority of morons". Having been to almost every home game this season I am confident that the vast majority of people where I sit do not rate McAnuff. There is no reason not to assume that the opinions of the area I sit in are an accurate representation of the ground in general.

[P!ssed Off]

lol. thats not a logical progression of thought.

best player of the season CANNOT mean who would have been the best if he had played, which he didnt

I think it explains why people voted in a certain way.
POTS is a vote on what fans think, it is not based on an algorithm or stats.

McCarthy, HRK and ALF have had enough game time to show that they are good players, but not enough game time to be tainted by the season in general or to be seen by the fans to be responsible for relegation.

[Norfolk Royal]

Disagree. Think the POTS ought to be someone who has been a regular in the starting 11.

[P!ssed Off]

Disagree. Think the POTS ought to be someone who has been a regular in the starting 11.

Well unless you want to limit the players eligible for POTS to only the 5 players who have started more than 20 games, there's nothing you can do. It's a free vote; people can vote how they like.

The fact that only 5 players have started more than 20 games suggests that there hasn't really been a starting 11 this season anyway.

[melonhead]

Maybe you thought he deserved to win, but I'm not sure why you thought he would win a popularity contest with the fans.
If you went to games you would quickly discover that seemingly the majority of fans don't rate him, though the last few games he's played quite well.

a very tiny but noisy minority of morons

No. Whether you think the criticism of McAnuff is unwarranted or not, it is pointless pretending that it is "a minority of morons". Having been to almost every home game this season I am confident that the vast majority of people where I sit do not rate McAnuff. There is no reason not to assume that the opinions of the area I sit in are an accurate representation of the ground in general.

u sit in y25/26?


where i sit there are 2-3 vocal h8ers
and another handful who just go along with them.
everyone else thinks they are cockends

[melonhead]

lol. thats not a logical progression of thought.

best player of the season CANNOT mean who would have been the best if he had played, which he didnt

I think it explains why people voted in a certain way.
POTS is a vote on what fans think, it is not based on an algorithm or stats.

McCarthy, HRK and ALF have had enough game time to show that they are good players, but not enough game time to be tainted by the season in general or to be seen by the fans to be responsible for relegation.

agreed with their thought progression. i just dont believe it to be a logical one