The Over-reaction Thread

[strap]

I think it took Coppell a long time to feel comfortable at the club. Pardew, although I'm sure some will hate to hear it, was the major man behind getting SC to the club. But he must be proud of what he's achieved here.

What, by walking out after signing a contract?? Would be interested to learn more. I was under the impression that JM and NH were the drivers behind that particular signing.

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

I think it took Coppell a long time to feel comfortable at the club. Pardew, although I'm sure some will hate to hear it, was the major man behind getting SC to the club. But he must be proud of what he's achieved here.

What, by walking out after signing a contract?? Would be interested to learn more. I was under the impression that JM and NH were the drivers behind that particular signing.

To be honest, just half remembering a comment form Coppell at his first fans forum, where he said something about how Pardew had bigged the club up to him after Coppell had been 1st approached by the board. I'm sure that wasn't the only factor and Dick Knight wanting the money properly played its part, but it wasn't that much, about 300k I think was the figure at the time.

[SpaceCruiser]

This is an interesting thread which I read in its entirety yesterday. I'm surprised at Royal Rother for not being negative like he usually would be. I liked Ian Royal's analogy with building a tower, that's how we should be approaching things.

This morning I read an article in last month's 4-4-2 about Leeds' demise and I was shocked to read about the figures involved. They never thought about the consequences of big wages further down the line. They signed expensive players on long term contracts, obviously assuming that they'd be playing Champions League on a regular basis. Also, Risdale obviously hadn't thought the "plan B" more thoroughly, which was to sell players if it didn't go well. They had borrowed obscene amounts of money and had a whopping interest of £4.6m per year - money that they didn't have down the drain! Selling players wasn't the end of problems, the players they sold were on big wages which they didn't get at their new clubs and for some reason Leeds had to top up their wages.

Some people on here are demanding that we pay better wages, I think it would be better to gradually increase our wage structure over the years, rather than going for broke. What would happen if we were relegated and we'd be stuck with those players on obscene wages and an unsustainable wage structure? And there's no point in saying our chairman is loaded or that we're earning lots of money today, we may not have that in the near future. Also we're a business, not a charity, we have to look after our finances and not make any unnecessary gambles like Risdale did with Leeds. I like it the way we're doing at the moment and I think Wet Sham could be the next Leeds.

[The 17 Bus]

spacey contracts have changed since the Leeds days, most have relegation clauses in them to prevent high wages being paid in a lower division, Leeds seems to have stupidly paid over and above what others were paying to get the players in the first place, so when Ferdinand moved to Man U they paid him less and Leeds had to make up the difference, .

[SpaceCruiser]

Yes, you are right, there are relegation clauses nowadays. But what is a typical relegation clause? Is it 25% reduction? Let's say a player is on £35,000 a week. The 25% reduction would be about £8,750 off, leaving the player still on £26,250 a week which is still a lot of money to be paying out at Championship level. The other thing is that including a relegation clause in a contract sometimes scares the players off as it gives them the impression that the club isn't confident of staying up and not as ambitious as other clubs in the same division.

[Royal Rother]

This is an interesting thread which I read in its entirety yesterday. I'm surprised at Royal Rother for not being negative like he usually would be.

Thank you for taking the trouble to read my posts carefully for once. I have been consistently posting in the same vein for the last 2 years actually!

[SpaceCruiser]

This is an interesting thread which I read in its entirety yesterday. I'm surprised at Royal Rother for not being negative like he usually would be.

Thank you for taking the trouble to read my posts carefully for once. I have been consistently posting in the same vein for the last 2 years actually!

Have you now? I find that hard to believe.

How about the rest of my comments?

[Royal Rother]

Good comments actually. You basically agree with me.

[Gordons Cumming]

This is an interesting thread which I read in its entirety yesterday.

Surprised you had the time. What with work pressures and all.

[Coppelled Streets]

PANIC!

[cmonurz]

When will the under-reactives wake up and smell the beans?

[Royal Rother]

I was just going to bump this one myself, so that Floyd Streete and Alan Partridge our funsome twins didn't have to start any new threads tonight. Thanks!

[glass half full]

Always look on the bright side of life....

[g]

Lack of cutting edge and creative play
No set peice specialists
Unable to score from outside the 6 yard box
Predictable

[Royal Rother]

Extracts from the Match thread...

It is a long seaon. One of 38. We are clearly pressing and can't finish, but we need to stick to the plan and the results will come.

Just to put a note of realism into the thread tonight.

and

ROFLeLOLegation zone.

You'll be fine

Still I'm sure the "back-from-the-gamers" will soon put me firmly in my place as I wasn't there.

[AF1]

Coppell out now whilst we still have a small chance of staying up.

[howser]

My concerns are that after an out of this world first season, we are a weaker side now, where as most of the other Premiership sides have attempted to improve thier sides. We badly needed a creative midfielder but seem to be going ahead with what we have already got, which doesn't seem to be good enpugh. We have hardly been in competition with any other Prem side to sign the players we have, and the writing was on the wall last week with the horrible Bolton performance, and according to the EP story we are down to the bare bones, all this with still days of the transfer window still to go, but the transfer window closed yesterday and from what is read on here we really didnt attempt anything to address the injury situation. Even with all the success over the past couple of years, we have done it on the "cheap" in the Championship you maybe able to get away with that but not in the Premiership

[Denver Royal]

We are now clear elegation candidates.

We're in the bottom 3, having played a game more, and we've lost our last two games 3-0 to average/poor sides. You don't think that makes us candidates?

We did it on a shoestring last season in the Premiership, and we're hoping lightning strikes twice.

Anyone still think Gunnar is better than Sids? LOL...

[Alan Partridge]

We won't miss sidwell at all will we We wouldn't have lost either game 3-0 if he'd played.

A full back that doesn't want to be here, no right sided players, the worst midfield in the division and strikers that don't strike.

Apart from that, alls good.

That is a horrendous result today.

[Royal Rother]

A full back that doesn't want to be here, no right sided players, the worst midfield in the division and strikers that don't strike.

You miserable tosser.

You don't deserve to support a club as well run as this one.