Predictions

[Stranded]

If you think Reading getting relegated from the premiership is an example of the club "underachieving" then you really have no clue.

Another idiot who thinks that just because we're seen as a small club we should be happy with playing in the Championship.

If every club was where they should be as a club then Leeds certainly wouldn't still be in League 1.

From a footballing perspective and the playing staff we had, there's no way we should have been relegated but for Coppell's ineptitude, maybe one day you'll realise that.

Oh christ, anyone who disagree's is an idiot, I'm right, your wrong - la,la,la.

For the record, there is a big difference in accepting the perceived "underacheivement" of relegation from the Premiership and feeling that the current management team are the best ones to get us back in to the top flight. It's not a stonewall guarantee, neither is replacing them.

One poor season, where mistakes were made, does not mean the end of the world - these things happen in football, you have to take the rough with the smooth, every club does, and I believe that the current team have enough about them to put it right - they've done it in the past at this very club after all.

You disagree with that and made your choice not to renew on the back of it, fair enough.

[Archie's penalty]

Good points Vision.

How do you think next year will go for us again? I think we will make at least the playoffs. It's going to be a hard road back up
to the prem but at least the years spent up there have raised our profile a bit. If we can get promoted in the next two years we
will maintain that profile. More than two seasons down and that will be lost. So let's just hope we can get up in that time? Anyone else agree?

Remember Blackburn spent two seasons in the championship and so did West Brom...

[Bucks Dave]

Royalee, you've made it clear that Coppell should go. Who do you want to replace him?

[Wycombe Royal]

Royalee, you've made it clear that Coppell should go. Who do you want to replace him?

Himself.

[Royalee]

Allardyce, Gary Johnson, Paul Ince for starters.

[brendywendy]

Allardyce, Gary Johnson, Paul Ince for starters.

jeeeeeeeezus




hed get the job done

[Thaumagurist*]

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[Hoop Blah]

What a fecking idiot.

Allardyce - plays long ball, not generally liked by many fans of any football club.
Johnson - not much experience, never managed in the Premiership
Ince - ditto. He hasn't even managed in league one yet!

Johnson has 20 years managerial experience!

Wenger, Fergie, Dalgleish, Keegan, Hughes etc etc, there are plenty of successful Premiership managers past and present that haven't managed in the Premiership before Spacey.

[Thaumagurist*]

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[Royalee]

Allardyce, Gary Johnson, Paul Ince for starters.

jeeeeeeeezus




hed get the job done

What a fecking idiot.

Allardyce - plays long ball, not generally liked by many fans of any football club.
Johnson - not much experience, never managed in the Premiership
Ince - ditto. He hasn't even managed in league one yet!

Allardyce attracted Jay Jay Okocha, Djorkaeff, Diouf, Campo and Anelka to the Reebok and he got them into Europe. Remind me, who was Coppell able to attract?

Gary Johnson's managed successfully in every division bar the Premiership (and that 'experience' doesn't seem to have done Coppell much good even after three visits), as well as internationally.

Paul Ince has had two seasons as a manager, taken one seemingly doomed club clear of relegation and taken another straight up, which suggests to me that he can't be bad at all. Mark Hughes and David Moyes had no Premiership experience when they took over at Blackburn and Everton, seems to have done them a lot of harm!

It would seem to me that the idiot here is you.

[Stranded]

What a fecking idiot.

Allardyce - plays long ball, not generally liked by many fans of any football club.
Johnson - not much experience, never managed in the Premiership
Ince - ditto. He hasn't even managed in league one yet!

Johnson has 20 years managerial experience!

Wenger, Fergie, Dalgleish, Keegan, Hughes etc etc, there are plenty of successful Premiership managers past and present that haven't managed in the Premiership before Spacey.

According to this:
http://www.soccerbase.com/managers2.sd?managerid=481

He has only been at three clubs and actually has less than 20 years experience. If he's such a great manager, then why hasn't he been snapped up by a bigger club? Most of his career he has managed in the lower levels, got Cambridge, Yeovil nowhere. He's even failed to take Bristol up this season. Only next season will tell if he can keep the momentum going.

Taking Bristol City to the play-off final at the first attempt at this level is a very good acheivement, not a failure.

If and when Coppell does leave I would be very happy if Johnson replaced him.

[Thaumagurist*]

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[floyd__streete]

got.....Yeovil nowhere.

Nowhere apart from out of the Conference into League 1?

[Royalee]

You don't rate Anelka...you're comparing over the hill Ferdinand and Keown with Campo, Diouf and Anelka and the players they brought in clearly did nothing for them - they only survived year on year and then went on to the UEFA Cup.

You give no reason for preferring Coppell to Johnson and despite a host of top clubs having been interested in Ince you wouldn't take a chance on him.

You are perhaps the biggest idiot I've ever come across on here. You and Spacey should get together - maybe you could exchange definitions of the word 'blinkered' and compare notes on grammar.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

If you think Reading getting relegated from the premiership is an example of the club "underachieving" then you really have no clue.

Another idiot who thinks that just because we're seen as a small club we should be happy with playing in the Championship.

No, what I'm saying, but you are too spoilt as a fan to realise, is that you should never expect overachievement. To expect a club to overachieve just shows how naive you are.

If every club was where they should be as a club then Leeds certainly wouldn't still be in League 1.

You really don't get it do you? Leeds are underachieving, badly. Underachievement and overachievement are two sides of the same coin. In any season there will be a number of clubs on a spell on overachievement (and that still includes us) and a number underachieving. That's how football works. You seem convinced that reading ought to be on some perpetual cycle of overachievement - that or you really have entered the ranks of the deluded and thing Reading FC belongs in the premiership, and anything less is failure.

I'm not talking about one particular season. I'm talking long term, on average, what our "pass mark" should be. For Reading to be in the top half of the championship is overachievement. The current team might ought to be able to do better, but the truth is that you have to enjoy the good times when the come around, because they don't tend to last too long.

From a footballing perspective and the playing staff we had, there's no way we should have been relegated but for Coppell's ineptitude, maybe one day you'll realise that.

One day you might realise your opinions don't equate to being facts. I think it'll be a Tuesday, but you'll be back to normal soon enough.

[brendywendy]

jeeeeeeeezus




hed get the job done

What a fecking idiot.

Allardyce - plays long ball, not generally liked by many fans of any football club.
Johnson - not much experience, never managed in the Premiership
Ince - ditto. He hasn't even managed in league one yet!

Allardyce attracted Jay Jay Okocha, Djorkaeff, Diouf, Campo and Anelka to the Reebok and he got them into Europe. Remind me, who was Coppell able to attract?

Gary Johnson's managed successfully in every division bar the Premiership (and that 'experience' doesn't seem to have done Coppell much good even after three visits), as well as internationally.

Paul Ince has had two seasons as a manager, taken one seemingly doomed club clear of relegation and taken another straight up, which suggests to me that he can't be bad at all. Mark Hughes and David Moyes had no Premiership experience when they took over at Blackburn and Everton, seems to have done them a lot of harm!

It would seem to me that the idiot here is you.

to claim those players came because of allardyce not money, just to support your argument only serves to makes you look foolish

[Royalee]

Sorry, I'd forgotten Bolton were the new Real Madrid.

I'm sure a few of them would have been more than happy with less than the £25k a week we've been paying Ireland's answer to Pele last season.

[brendywendy]

:lol: You don't rate Anelka...you're comparing over the hill Ferdinand and Keown with Campo, Diouf and Anelka and the players they brought in clearly did nothing for them - they only survived year on year and then went on to the UEFA Cup.

You give no reason for preferring Coppell to Johnson and despite a host of top clubs having been interested in Ince you wouldn't take a chance on him.

You are perhaps the biggest idiot I've ever come across on here. You and Spacey should get together - maybe you could exchange definitions of the word 'blinkered' and compare notes on grammar.

sometimes i agree with royalee, but he does like the sound of his own keyboard doesnt he
and why must everything come down to insults,


no, campo wouldnt have come for less than 25 k
nor would anelka
or diouf

[Hoop Blah]

According to this:
http://www.soccerbase.com/managers2.sd?managerid=481

He has only been at three clubs and actually has less than 20 years experience. If he's such a great manager, then why hasn't he been snapped up by a bigger club? Most of his career he has managed in the lower levels, got Cambridge, Yeovil nowhere. He's even failed to take Bristol up this season. Only next season will tell if he can keep the momentum going.

He was part of the managment team at Cambridge from '88, admittedly starting off as Reserve team manager, but I'd say that probably still counts as managerial experience.

Soccerbase also doesn't mention Kettering Town or his time as coach of the Latvian national team.

Not sure how you can say he got Yeovil nowhere when he won the FA Trophy and promotion to the League by winning the Conference before then winning Div Three as well.

Not getting City promoted is hardly a massive failure is it? I don't think many City fans will moan at the way he got them promoted into the Championship and then almost into the Prem via the playoffs at the first attempt.

His record is excellent. He doesn't need a lot of money to suceed and his teams play good football as well.

[Royalee]

:lol: You don't rate Anelka...you're comparing over the hill Ferdinand and Keown with Campo, Diouf and Anelka and the players they brought in clearly did nothing for them - they only survived year on year and then went on to the UEFA Cup.

You give no reason for preferring Coppell to Johnson and despite a host of top clubs having been interested in Ince you wouldn't take a chance on him.

You are perhaps the biggest idiot I've ever come across on here. You and Spacey should get together - maybe you could exchange definitions of the word 'blinkered' and compare notes on grammar.

sometimes i agree with royalee, but he does like the sound of his own keyboard doesnt he
and why must everything come down to insults,


no, campo wouldnt have come for less than 25 k
nor would anelka
or diouf

Why, have you asked them then? Or is this more Coppell-esque negativity about us not being able to attract any players because we are little old Reading. Where are Bolton getting all this imaginary money from?