MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 10 May 2023 17:02

Is Joao not our all time top gooalscorer in the Championship? I'm sure I saw that posted about somewhere yesterday. Not that it's a particularly fantastic achievement or anything, but it's still pretty good nonetheless.

I wouldn't say he's largely responsible why we didn't achieve what we could have done, although for £5m, he hasn't been worth that for us. £5m is a reasonable price to pay for a player of his quality, it was the fact that £5m on one player was a lot for us, as a club, to offer and we needed more for that sort of money. Hit fitness record also leaves a lot to be desired. But at his best, £5m is more than worthwhile for him.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 10 May 2023 17:27

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So about the same contribution as last weekend then? Must win game against Wigan and he was dreadful. Didn’t look remotely interested

Another poor signing, 3 months here and there doesn’t cut it. Glad we’re shot of him


He’s a weird one. Goals almost got us to the play offs and kept us up last year. Could be unplayable or terrible. Don’t think he could be classed as a poor signing with his record and actually thought he was ok last week in generally poor and negative performance by the team mind you


I think he can be classed as a pretty poor signing overall. One of our major downfalls in recent seasons has been a lack of consistency within the “key” players. The odd good run here and there doesn’t cut it. It’s not good enough.

Let’s see:
- Poor under Gomes
- Injured under Bowen (aside from that “4” game Christmas period)
- Very good for the first 5 months under Paunovic
- Yet ultimately a big reason as to why we didn’t make the playoffs, offered very little post January
- Injured most of last season
- Offered nothing this season

Sure, comparatively to our other “big name” signings, he’s stood out but has he represented value for money? No chance. Maybe on reflection, poor signing is harsh but I’m not particularly enamoured for a 5/6 million signing that was pretty much invisible for 75% of the time he was here (through injury or poor form)

This just isn't true.

His scoring record with us until this season was exceptional. And it isnt even that bad this season. Injury hit sure. But his injury is basically the reason we finished Bowen's season badly. His post penalty loss of form and injury under Paunovic is basically why we didn't make the POs.

Definitely a good signing, though ultimately not hit the heights he could have done and a little overpriced.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 10 May 2023 17:28

YorkshireRoyal99 Is Joao not our all time top gooalscorer in the Championship? I'm sure I saw that posted about somewhere yesterday. Not that it's a particularly fantastic achievement or anything, but it's still pretty good nonetheless.

I wouldn't say he's largely responsible why we didn't achieve what we could have done, although for £5m, he hasn't been worth that for us. £5m is a reasonable price to pay for a player of his quality, it was the fact that £5m on one player was a lot for us, as a club, to offer and we needed more for that sort of money. Hit fitness record also leaves a lot to be desired. But at his best, £5m is more than worthwhile for him.

Not a oxf*rd chance whilst Dave Kitson exists.


Bugger me, by my count from soccerbase they both got 42 Championship goals for us.

With Doyle a little behind.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by Hendo » 10 May 2023 17:37

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YorkshireRoyal99 Is Joao not our all time top gooalscorer in the Championship? I'm sure I saw that posted about somewhere yesterday. Not that it's a particularly fantastic achievement or anything, but it's still pretty good nonetheless.

I wouldn't say he's largely responsible why we didn't achieve what we could have done, although for £5m, he hasn't been worth that for us. £5m is a reasonable price to pay for a player of his quality, it was the fact that £5m on one player was a lot for us, as a club, to offer and we needed more for that sort of money. Hit fitness record also leaves a lot to be desired. But at his best, £5m is more than worthwhile for him.

Not a oxf*rd chance whilst Dave Kitson exists.


YR99 is right: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/reading-fc/toptorschuetzen/verein/1032/plus/0/galerie/0?wettbewerb_id=GB2&position=alle&detailposition=alle

1. Lucas Joao - 42
1. Yakou Meite - 42
3. Shane Long - 40
4. Dave Kitson - 39
5. Kevin Doyle - 35

Kitson has the best goals per match record (for those who have scored +10 goals):

1. Dave Kitson - 0.48
2. Gylfi Sigurdsson - 0.43
3. Kevin Doyle - 0.42
4. Adam Le Fondre - 0.39
5. Lucas Joao - 0.36

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 10 May 2023 17:43

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YorkshireRoyal99 Is Joao not our all time top gooalscorer in the Championship? I'm sure I saw that posted about somewhere yesterday. Not that it's a particularly fantastic achievement or anything, but it's still pretty good nonetheless.

I wouldn't say he's largely responsible why we didn't achieve what we could have done, although for £5m, he hasn't been worth that for us. £5m is a reasonable price to pay for a player of his quality, it was the fact that £5m on one player was a lot for us, as a club, to offer and we needed more for that sort of money. Hit fitness record also leaves a lot to be desired. But at his best, £5m is more than worthwhile for him.

Not a oxf*rd chance whilst Dave Kitson exists.


YR99 is right: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/reading-fc/toptorschuetzen/verein/1032/plus/0/galerie/0?wettbewerb_id=GB2&position=alle&detailposition=alle

1. Lucas Joao - 42
1. Yakou Meite - 42
3. Shane Long - 40
4. Dave Kitson - 39
5. Kevin Doyle - 35

Kitson has the best goals per match record (for those who have scored +10 goals):

1. Dave Kitson - 0.48
2. Gylfi Sigurdsson - 0.43
3. Kevin Doyle - 0.42
4. Adam Le Fondre - 0.39
5. Lucas Joao - 0.36

Soccerbase has Kitson on 54 League goals. 2 PL season 1, 10 PL season 2. Where are the other 3 league goals?


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by Hendo » 10 May 2023 17:49

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Snowflake Royal Not a oxf*rd chance whilst Dave Kitson exists.


YR99 is right: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/reading-fc/toptorschuetzen/verein/1032/plus/0/galerie/0?wettbewerb_id=GB2&position=alle&detailposition=alle

1. Lucas Joao - 42
1. Yakou Meite - 42
3. Shane Long - 40
4. Dave Kitson - 39
5. Kevin Doyle - 35

Kitson has the best goals per match record (for those who have scored +10 goals):

1. Dave Kitson - 0.48
2. Gylfi Sigurdsson - 0.43
3. Kevin Doyle - 0.42
4. Adam Le Fondre - 0.39
5. Lucas Joao - 0.36

Soccerbase has Kitson on 54 League goals. 2 PL season 1, 10 PL season 2. Where are the other 3 league goals?


Not sure, I've always used Transfermarkt.

Championship - 39 - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dave-kitson/alletore/spieler/15698/plus/0?saison=&verein=1032&liga=&wettbewerb=GB2&pos=&minute=&pos=&torart=&stand=
Premier League - 12 - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dave-kitson/alletore/spieler/15698/plus/0?saison=&verein=1032&liga=&wettbewerb=GB1&pos=&minute=&pos=&torart=&stand=

Might be counting the old first division by mistake? - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dave-kitson/alletore/spieler/15698/plus/0?saison=&verein=1032&liga=&wettbewerb=EFD2&pos=&minute=&pos=&torart=&stand=

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 10 May 2023 17:50

I've counted. Dave Kitson has scored 44 tier two goals for us.

Transfermarket is ignoring goals scored under a different branding of the same division. Which is absolute horseshit.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by Sutekh » 10 May 2023 18:46

Snowflake Royal I've counted. Dave Kitson has scored 44 tier two goals for us.

Transfermarket is ignoring goals scored under a different branding of the same division. Which is absolute horseshit.


Kits scored 62 goals in all competitions, 56 in the league (54 in his first spell, 2 more in his second spell).

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 10 May 2023 21:45

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Snowflake Royal I've counted. Dave Kitson has scored 44 tier two goals for us.

Transfermarket is ignoring goals scored under a different branding of the same division. Which is absolute horseshit.


Kits scored 62 goals in all competitions, 56 in the league (54 in his first spell, 2 more in his second spell).

Yep, 12 in the PL so 44 in Championship including both spells


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 11 May 2023 09:10

Snowflake Royal I've counted. Dave Kitson has scored 44 tier two goals for us.

Transfermarket is ignoring goals scored under a different branding of the same division. Which is absolute horseshit.


Fair enough, if it's wrong then it's wrong. Either way, I wouldn't say it's necessarily a failure to have him as our second all time goal scorer in the Championship, especially considering where we have been for most of his time here. The biggest problem is that £5m was/is a lot of money for us to spend on one player. Not that Joao isn't worth £5m (his injury record might put this up for debate) for the quality you get, we just needed more for that kind of money.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by genome » 11 May 2023 10:01

Kitson would be the highest "Championship" goal scorer if it weren't for those pesky seasons in the Premier League

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Huddersfield Town (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 11 May 2023 12:13

genome Kitson would be the highest "Championship" goal scorer if it weren't for those pesky seasons in the Premier League

A mostly fit Kitson would add about another 34 goals in 2 seasons.

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