Stats with and without Gylfi

[Snowball]

Stats since Gylfi left

W2 D1 L1 7-3 = 1.75 points per game, equivalent to a 79/80 point season = 3rd place last year

and Harte who "won't score at this level" is averaging a goal every other game.



YES I AM aware it's only been four games.

[Schards#2]

Statistically, Robson-Kanu is on target for around 60 goals this season

Happy Days!!

[weybridgewanderer]

what are the stats like if we look at the last 86 games, 43 he played in and 43 he didn't?

[Snowball]

what are the stats like if we look at the last 86 games, 43 he played in and 43 he didn't?

WHY? Different manager, different approach.

by all means compare all Gylfi games with all non-Gylfi games (but in the Gylfi era)

and we are averaging MORE POINTS PER GAME in those games where Gylfi did not start

[bigmike]

Does this weekends game count as a game with Gylfi as he was at the ground

[TFF]

what are the stats like if we look at the last 86 games, 43 he played in and 43 he didn't?

WHY? Different manager, different approach.

by all means compare all Gylfi games with all non-Gylfi games (but in the Gylfi era)

Stats since Gylfi left

W2 D1 L1 7-3 = 1.75 points per game, equivalent to a 79/80 point season = 3rd place last year

[Snowball]

THIS SEASON

P4 W1 D2 L1 05-5 GD 0 - 05 points from 4 games = 1.25 points per game = 57.5 point season Gylfi Playing
P4 W2 D1 L1 07-3 GD 4 - 07 points from 4 games = 1.75 points per game = 80.5 point season Gyfi not playing (League Only)
P6 W3 D2 L1 11-6 GD 5 - 11 points from 6 games = 1.83 points per game = 84.0 point season Gylfi not playing (including cup games)


With Gylfi

Start H Scunthorpe LOST 1-2 (Scored)
Start A Portsmouth Drew 1-1
Start H Forest Drew 1-1
Start A Leicester WON 2-1 (Scored)

P4 W1 D2 L1 5-5 GD 0 5 points = 1.25 per game equivalent of 57/58 point season

Without Gylfi

Gone H Crystal Palace WON 3-0 HARTE SCORED, Long, KEBE
Gone A Millwall DREW 0-0
Gone A Middlesbro LOST 1-3 (KEBE)
Gone H Barnsley WON 3-0 (HARTE SCORED, HRK, KEBE)

So in 4 "non-Gylfi" games versus 4 "Gylfi" games we have scored 2 more goals, conceded 2 less less goals, have a +4 better GD, kept 3 clean sheets, gained two extra points

and HARTE is currently matching Gyfli's goals-per-game.

There are also the two cup games

OUT A Torquay WON 1-0
OUT H Northampton Drew 3-3 (lost on pens)

P6 W3 D2 L1 11-6 "11 points from 6 games" = 1.833 points per game = 84 point season

[Platypuss]

at even bothering to try give the impression that four games is in any way a satisfactory sample size.

[Snowball]

Of COURSE 4 games is insufficient


But had we L3 D1 or lost all four three-quarters of this list
would be up in arms "KNOWING" the defeats were because
we had lost Gylfi.

The facts are still facts however small the sample. The sample is not selective. It includes ALL this season's games.

Despite people saying we would struggle to score goals we are scoring MORE goals.

Despite people saying Ian Harte was too slow for the Championship we have kept three clean sheets in four games.

Despite people saying Harte wouldn't score goals he's got two goals in four games

[Royal Rother]

Of COURSE 4 games is insufficient

But had we L3 D1 or lost all four three-quarters of this list would be up in arms "KNOWING" the defeats were because we had lost Gylfi.

That's certainly true.

[Woodcote Royal]

+2 with bells on

[facaldaqui]

I agree that we seem to do surprisingly well without Sigurdsson; I noticed that last season. Despite two goals, he wasn't at his best this season; but, in fairness, I expect he was distracted by what was going on behind the scenes.

[Terminal Boardom]

Could it be that we are more of an unknown quantity? Everyone knew what Gylfi was about. But 4 games in??? This has to be the most pointless thread in the history of the interweb thingy.

[RobRoyal]

Of COURSE 4 games is insufficient

But had we L3 D1 or lost all four three-quarters of this list
would be up in arms "KNOWING" the defeats were because
we had lost Gylfi.

Then why knowingly fall foul of the same error, Snowball?

[Snowball]

Could it be that we are more of an unknown quantity? Everyone knew what Gylfi was about. But 4 games in??? This has to be the most pointless thread in the history of the interweb thingy.

But it's NOT "four games in"

True we have only played 4 games since Gylfi left but we have played many more games
since his debut, and we have done BETTER in terms of wins and goals, than when he played.


FACT

[Snowball]

Of COURSE 4 games is insufficient

But had we L3 D1 or lost all four three-quarters of this list
would be up in arms "KNOWING" the defeats were because
we had lost Gylfi.

Then why knowingly fall foul of the same error, Snowball?

I acknowledged that "it's only been four games" >>>>
Stats since Gylfi left
W2 D1 L1 7-3 = 1.75 points per game, equivalent to a 79/80 point season = 3rd place last year
and Harte who "won't score at this level" is averaging a goal every other game.
YES I AM aware it's only been four games.

and NOTE I did NOT make any comment, I just stated the facts.


However, when you look at ALL the games since Gylfi's debut, it's totally clear we do OK without him.

[Svlad Cjelli]

How great that such a complicated and multi-faceted team game as football, full of inter-dependent nuances, intricacies and subtleties, and with more possible variations than there are grains of sand on the beach, can be summed up in a few numbers.

Still, look on the bright side and rejoice in the fact that we score a goal every 6 minutes when we're playing with 10 men. So BMc will be an idiot not to start with 10 against Ipswich - the statistics prove we'll score 15 goals if he does.

[Snowball]

ALL GAMES since Gylfi's debut

14 07 03 04 24-18 = +6 GD .428 pg 1.714 "points per game" = 79 Point Season, GD of +20 WITHOUT GYLFI
43 17 13 13 71-63 = +8 GD .186 pg 1.488 "points per game" = 68 point season, GD of +8/9 WITH GYLFI

1.286 Goals Conceded per Game (WITHOUT GYLFI) (BETTER)
1.465 Goals Conceded per Game (With Gylfi)


1.714 Goals Scored per Game (WITHOUT Gylfi) (BETTER)
1.651 Goals Scored per Game (With Gylfi)

35.7% (5/14) Clean Sheets (WITHOUT GYLFI)
18.6% (8/43) Clean Sheets (With Gylfi)


So, comparing 14 games to 43 games we score more, conceded less, have almost twice as many clean sheets WITHOUT Gylfi.

[Snowball]

How great that such a complicated and multi-faceted team game as football, full of inter-dependent nuances, intricacies and subtleties, and with more possible variations than there are grains of sand on the beach, can be summed up in a few numbers.

Still, look on the bright side and rejoice in the fact that we score a goal every 6 minutes when we're playing with 10 men. So BMc will be an idiot not to start with 10 against Ipswich - the statistics prove we'll score 15 goals if he does.

How great that at the end of the season the clubs who score more POINTS
and have the better goal differences, end up highest.

The only way to OBJECTIVELY assess the team's performance with/without Gylfi
is to compare actual results, wins, draws, defeats, clean sheets etc.

Just because it's possible to look at something objectively, factually, statistically
doesn't mean that the enjoyment of the actual game is any less

[Snowball]

IPSWICH: ANOTHER WIN and a CLEAN SHEET

ALL GAMES since Gylfi's debut

15 08 03 04 25-18 = +7 GD .467 per game 1.800 "points per game" = 83 Point Season, GD of +21/22 WITHOUT GYLFI
43 17 13 13 71-63 = +8 GD .186 per game 1.488 "points per game" = 68 point season, GD of +8/9 WITH GYLFI

1.200 Goals Conceded per Game (WITHOUT GYLFI) (BETTER)
1.465 Goals Conceded per Game (With Gylfi)


1.667 Goals Scored per Game (WITHOUT Gylfi) (BETTER)
1.651 Goals Scored per Game (With Gylfi)

42.9% (6/14) Clean Sheets (WITHOUT GYLFI)
18.6% (8/43) Clean Sheets (With Gylfi)


So, comparing 15 games to 43 games we score more, conceded less, have almost twice as many clean sheets WITHOUT Gylfi.