Report the ref/Leeds?

[The Cube]

In all fairness the ref clearly didn't agree with the time added on by the 4th official as he added a fair bit of time beyond that indicated off his own bat.

It is the referee who tells the fourth official what to display on the board. It will then be adjusted for things that happened after he told him, or during the added on time, or in practice (for some reason that I don't understand) to allow an attack to complete. Also if the referee intends to add on 3 minutes 30 seconds, the board will display 3.

I think you will find that the fourth official puts up the minimum time to be added on

And how is that different from what I wrote?

[yuomi]

i think we need to get some perspective here. yes, leeds played a horrible, thuggish and negative style of football yesterday devised by their horrible, thuggish and negative overlord warnock. the foul on jem totally merited a card (in my opinion red) and i question the ref in that respect. but if you look around the leagues there are dirtier teams than leeds and considerably more dirty games than yesterday's. the idea that it merits a complaint to the FA is laughable. clubs are at liberty to voice their dissatisfaction to the FA in the event they feel they have been harshly treated or certain events have been overlooked- what, as fans can you say that they couldnt and furthermore, wouldnt it look a bit like youre undermining the club?

[Tad Showbiz]

I'm still fuming after yesterday. Is there anything that we as fans can do to complain about the referee/Leeds' dirty tactics? It was a throwback to the early days for me. Those kind of tactics just don't happen anymore. I don't normally get livid by a football game but that was deeply unpleasant. So what can we do?

Nothing.

If teams have to resort to thuggish tactics and still lose games then their manager has to rethink his strategy. If those tactics/results cost a club promotion or play off spots due then the manager is responsible for correcting it. Looked to me that Colin gave the sent off player a bit of a talking to before he walked down the tunnel so that player will learn from his mistakes. As for Brown and Pugh well they're experienced pros and should know how to tackle and conduct themselves on the pitch. Becchio is just a whinger.

The FA have rules in place that if a team receives a certain number of bookings in a game they automatically receive a fine, too many fines then club chairmen will start asking questions of the manager and reminding them of their responsibilities.

[M0J0]

whilst you are reporting the ref from the leeds game, how about suing the ref

from the Blackpool away game, Ref Mark Brown, disallowed a perfectly good goal from

Churchey and missed a blatant penalty when Alex Pearce was fouled in the box,

If he allows the goal to stand we may have gone on to get 3 points, but we would

sureley have got 1 point from the game, and that 1 point could turn out to be key.

Unless we do what we are really good at and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Ian Royal]

I'm still fuming after yesterday. Is there anything that we as fans can do to complain about the referee/Leeds' dirty tactics? It was a throwback to the early days for me. Those kind of tactics just don't happen anymore. I don't normally get livid by a football game but that was deeply unpleasant. So what can we do?

Thought about this as well, then realised I'm not a pompous Daily Mail reading idiot and got on with my life.

If you want to be a pompous Daily Mail reading idiot, then write to the Refs organisation or FA.

[Ian Royal]

It is the referee who tells the fourth official what to display on the board. It will then be adjusted for things that happened after he told him, or during the added on time, or in practice (for some reason that I don't understand) to allow an attack to complete. Also if the referee intends to add on 3 minutes 30 seconds, the board will display 3.

I think you will find that the fourth official puts up the minimum time to be added on

And how is that different from what I wrote?

I've had this argument with people before. Some people (idiots) think that giving a "minimum" of added time means they can put down 1 minute and add as many above that as they think as necessary.

Anyone with half a brain realises they put up stoppage time to the full minute, so it will be 1 minute if it's 60 seconds to 119 seconds. If it was a 123 seconds they'd put up two minutes. Then there is the room for adding more for stoppages during stoppage time, which is the only reason you should play more than 2 minutes, if the ref has put up 1.

But you already know that, because you aren't an idiot.

[West Stand Man]

I think you will find that the fourth official puts up the minimum time to be added on

Having been told why at figure to display by the referee

[loyalroyal4life]

grow up and grow some balls

[old woman]

grow up and grow some balls

Do you mind if I don't

[RoyalBlue]

Laugh at Warnock & what a pcunt he is & the fact despite the disgusting display they put on we ended their play-off hopes completely (not that they had any anyway as they were sh1t).

Imagine how gutted you'd be as a fan if you had to endure that each week. Knowing your team are deliberately going out to maim others to get results rather than playing football. Would sour my love for the game a bit I think.

Football won out in the end luckily.

Football did not win out in the end as a player had his season ended thanks to that cheating scum Warnock and his bunch of thugs.

As for those saying 'we won, move on', will they be quite so dismissive should the injury to Jem and possibly others mean we don't secure automatic promotion.

As usual, the lifeblood of the game (the fans) can do so all about what happened but RFC should submit official complaints about Warnock, his team of thugs and the referee.

What do you suggest we do then? Stand outside FA HQ with Karacan's ripped sock in protest?!

Nothing we can do just be thankful we probably won't face that again this season.

I thought I told you what I suggested the club did. There is nothing whatsoever to prevent them lodging a formal complaint with the authorities and I think that they should. With the place packed with Sky cameras yesterday, there is plenty of evidence to support that complaint.

[Millsy]

Nothing wrong to suggest warnock should be reported.

Yes most of us (like me) will shrug our shoulders and say lets move on, but when Warnock incites players to break legs (which he has done before playing against us) and when this ends up in one of our players having a broken ankle and God forbid may end up with one day with a player losing his career it's unacceptable and no harm can come of reporting him.

I don't think it will do much though. It'd be better to have a good system of refereeing that does homework on managers and teams and stamps immediately on any hint of foul play from the like of Warnock's teams this sort of thing will stop overnight. This ref started off doing exactly that with the first red card, but then bottled it after that alas.

[southstand67]

Doesn't the FA charge someone after the event if there is evidence of bad sportsmanship or bringing the game into disrepute anyway?

Regardless of whether the FA do or don't, is it worth complaining? Look what happened to the likes of Arsenal's Eduardo and Diaby after nasty fouls. Eduardo was never the same player and Diaby is always getting injured as a result of his broken ankle. It's just a nasty part of the game that won't go away until the offenders are properly punished. Surely what happened to Jem is common assault off the pitch isn't it?

[The Prisoner]

Did we win the game?

[Avon Royal]

Did we win the game?

Does that heal Jem's ankle then?

[Royal Lady]

No-one would take any notice if anyone DID report Leeds/Warnock. What riles me more is that no-one in the media when reporting on the game appears to have criticised their tactics - I'm looking specifically at YOU Manish and Leroy. Pathetic. Like they're scared to say they thought the tackling was atrocious etc. Puffs.

[jonboy29red]

not worth it the fa will never listen to the fans

[From Despair To Where?]

I don't think it will do much though. It'd be better to have a good system of refereeing that does homework on managers and teams and stamps immediately on any hint of foul play from the like of Warnock's teams this sort of thing will stop overnight. This ref started off doing exactly that with the first red card, but then bottled it after that alas.

No, refs shouldn't do homework on a team or a manager's style, that's making a pre judgement on players before they step on the pitch, they should make decisions on the pitch based on the merits of each incident, which is what the referee on Friday failed to do.

I do think there should be a clamp down on the kind of scissors follow through regularly employed by Brown on Friday. The defence is there that he took the ball but it's an ugly follow through designed to hurt a player and one that regularly results in some kind of injury.

[ZacNaloen]

As mentioned above the problem with broken ankles is that often when you come back you are not the same player not just because of the ankle itself but because of what muscles the injury puts out of balance.

It depends on the break though, so hopefully Jems break is only mild and the physios and surgeons do what is necessary.

Luke Anthony seems quick to get players to specialists and surgeons if they need it so fingers crossed he's got it covered not just for next season but for Jem as a player.

[sandman]

just massive lol's at the Reading fans on here. First we post a thread about Nolans terrible behaviour and now we have another, wanting to report Leeds and their manager.

Massive lol's at you. Apart from a couple most people are saying move on and even if there were a few who reported Warnock what does it matter? Are those other clubs that we care so much about going to call us "Plastic"?

[Far Canal]

No-one would take any notice if anyone DID report Leeds/Warnock. What riles me more is that no-one in the media when reporting on the game appears to have criticised their tactics - I'm looking specifically at YOU Manish and Leroy. Pathetic. Like they're scared to say they thought the tackling was atrocious etc. Puffs.

Spot on RL. The producers and presenters of the Football League show completely bottled it and missed a golden opportunity to state publicly what most football fans think of Brown, Pugh and Warnock.