Team for Wigan

[loyalroyal4life]

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Leigertwood's just finding some form and you want to drop him?

He has had all season to find form, dont think you can class a couple of ok games as finding form. Most people class finding form as playing better than his diabolical performances previously.

Jem>>Ledge

[Basingstoke Royal]

Federici

Kelly Pearce Mariappa Harte

Ledge Akpan

Kebe Blackman Mcanuff

Pog

[melonhead]

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Leigertwood's just finding some form and you want to drop him?

He has had all season to find form, dont think you can class a couple of ok games as finding form. Most people class finding form as playing better than his diabolical performances previously.

Jem>>Ledge

@ that whole post

[Royal Ginger]

Federici

Kelly Pearce Mariappa Harte

Ledge Akpan

Kebe Blackman Mcanuff

Pog

No thanks to Blackman, he needs time that we don't have. Guthrie or HRK over him for my money.

[Colin Cheeselog]

Personally i'd like to see Hunt play ahead of Pog. I know Pog ‘does a job’ for the team, and undoubtedly since he came back in and we changed formation we have been better. BUT, i personally think Pog doesn’t actually play the ‘big man’ role very well. He doesn’t win many headers, his control isn’t great, he doesn’t appear to give defenders a particularly hard time, and he hasn’t really looked like scoring in a quite a few games.

I think Hunt is better in the air, can hold the ball up better, is quicker, closes down defenders and defends from the front better, and his movement and agility means he’s looks more likely to score.

Bring on the inevitable abuse...

[maffff]

I think that's a fair summation. I personally don't feel he would do it as well as Pog, but I can see what strengths he would have that Pog doesn't, it's just for me Pog is better at bringing others into the game and the few chances he does get (I can't remember the last time he had a good one in the 4-5-1...) he is clinical. Hunt can be somewhat anonymous. But we won't know for sure unless we ever see it.

I'd rather try Hunt at it than Roberts, but we're getting results so I'd stick to what we have.

[winchester_royal]

Personally i'd like to see Hunt play ahead of Pog. I know Pog ‘does a job’ for the team, and undoubtedly since he came back in and we changed formation we have been better. BUT, i personally think Pog doesn’t actually play the ‘big man’ role very well. He doesn’t win many headers, his control isn’t great, he doesn’t appear to give defenders a particularly hard time, and he hasn’t really looked like scoring in a quite a few games.

I think Hunt is better in the air, can hold the ball up better, is quicker, closes down defenders and defends from the front better, and his movement and agility means he’s looks more likely to score.

Bring on the inevitable abuse...

No abuse, just total incredulity.

[Colin Cheeselog]

Personally i'd like to see Hunt play ahead of Pog. I know Pog ‘does a job’ for the team, and undoubtedly since he came back in and we changed formation we have been better. BUT, i personally think Pog doesn’t actually play the ‘big man’ role very well. He doesn’t win many headers, his control isn’t great, he doesn’t appear to give defenders a particularly hard time, and he hasn’t really looked like scoring in a quite a few games.

I think Hunt is better in the air, can hold the ball up better, is quicker, closes down defenders and defends from the front better, and his movement and agility means he’s looks more likely to score.

Bring on the inevitable abuse...

No abuse, just total incredulity.

What specifically do you find so unbelievable?

[RockheadRumple]

Same team as the one against Sunderland, I reckon, since that was pretty much our best performance of the season.


-------------Federici------------

Kelly - Pearce - Mariappa - Harte

----------Leigertwood-----------

Kebe - Akpan - McAnuff - McLeary

-----------Pogrebnyak-----------

I'm slightly worried, however, that McD might go 442 after a decent display vs Manchester United...

[Snowball]

Personally i'd like to see Hunt play ahead of Pog. I know Pog ‘does a job’ for the team, and undoubtedly since he came back in and we changed formation we have been better. BUT, i personally think Pog doesn’t actually play the ‘big man’ role very well. He doesn’t win many headers, his control isn’t great, he doesn’t appear to give defenders a particularly hard time, and he hasn’t really looked like scoring in a quite a few games.

I think Hunt is better in the air, can hold the ball up better, is quicker, closes down defenders and defends from the front better, and his movement and agility means he’s looks more likely to score.

Bring on the inevitable abuse...

No abuse from me. He's very under-rated. Great team man IMO.

I remember a Prem side's defence (Everton?) saying the Hunt-Long wore them out.

I thought Hunt's work-rate was one of the main reasons our 442 was decent at Man U

[cmonurz]

Federici
Kelly Mariappa Pearce Shorey
Kebe Akpan Leigertwood Guthrie McCleary
Pog

Taylor, Harte, Morrison, Karacan, Robson-Kanu, Alf, Hunt.

[tlcs]

[quote="RockheadRumple"]Same team as the one against Sunderland, I reckon, since that was pretty much our best performance of the season.


-------------Federici------------

Kelly - Pearce - Mariappa - Harte

----------Leigertwood-----------

Kebe - Akpan - McAnuff - McLeary

-----------Pogrebnyak-----------



Yes please]

[sandman]

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Leigertwood's just finding some form and you want to drop him?

He has had all season to find form, dont think you can class a couple of ok games as finding form. Most people class finding form as playing better than his diabolical performances previously.

Jem>>Ledge

So you agree with me then?

[winchester_royal]

Personally i'd like to see Hunt play ahead of Pog. I know Pog ‘does a job’ for the team, and undoubtedly since he came back in and we changed formation we have been better. BUT, i personally think Pog doesn’t actually play the ‘big man’ role very well. He doesn’t win many headers, his control isn’t great, he doesn’t appear to give defenders a particularly hard time, and he hasn’t really looked like scoring in a quite a few games.

I think Hunt is better in the air, can hold the ball up better, is quicker, closes down defenders and defends from the front better, and his movement and agility means he’s looks more likely to score.

Bring on the inevitable abuse...

No abuse, just total incredulity.

What specifically do you find so unbelievable?

That you believe Noel Hunt to be more of a goal threat than Pog. The same Noel Hunt with 2 goals from 17 appearances this season, and 8 goals from 41 appearances in the Championship last season. That you believe Noel Hunt would be able to hold the ball up better than Pog despite that fact that our big fcuking Russian has been an absolute titan in that respect over the past few games and Hunt has the touch of a rapist. That you believe Noel's style of movement which is 'stay offside and hope the lino doesn't notice' would be at all useful when playing 4-5-1.. etc.

[maffff]

Same team as the one against Sunderland, I reckon, since that was pretty much our best performance of the season.


-------------Federici------------

Kelly - Pearce - Mariappa - Harte

----------Leigertwood-----------

Kebe - Akpan - McAnuff - McCleary

-----------Pogrebnyak-----------

Yes please

ALMOST a +1 for me.

I thought HRK actually looked interested against Man United when he came on. I'd like to see him given the starting slot on the left (too early for Blackman to me, sorry) so that we can have a fresh McCleary to come on in the 70th at the same time as ALF.

I'd start Akpan too, although after his impressive cameos at the beginning I'm missing having him from the bench a bit so I wouldn't be gutted if Guthrie started alongside McAnuff in the centre, although it would be very harsh on Hope to drop him.

[Snowball]

Hunt is actually fractionally better on minutes per goal


1,543 Minutes for 5 Premiership Goals at 308 minutes per goal POG
0,610 Minutes for 2 Premiership Goals at 305 minutes per goal HUNT

[Snowball]

Noel Hunt, scores goals and makes goals.

For example, his partnership with Shane Long.


Last 3 Seasons

0,610 Minutes for 02 Goals at 305 minutes per goal Plus 1 Assists 2012-13 Premiership
2,925 Minutes for 08 Goals at 305 minutes per goal Plus 9 assists 2011-12 Championship
1,815 Minutes for 10 Goals at 182 minutes per goal Plus 4 assists 1010-11 Championship

5,350 Minutes for 20 Goals at 262 minutes per goal Plus 14 assists


That's a goal or assist every 157 minutes

[Colin Cheeselog]

That you believe Noel Hunt to be more of a goal threat than Pog. The same Noel Hunt with 2 goals from 17 appearances this season, and 8 goals from 41 appearances in the Championship last season. That you believe Noel Hunt would be able to hold the ball up better than Pog despite that fact that our big fcuking Russian has been an absolute titan in that respect over the past few games and Hunt has the touch of a rapist. That you believe Noel's style of movement which is 'stay offside and hope the lino doesn't notice' would be at all useful when playing 4-5-1.. etc.

The thing is though, he really isn't that big, commanding or intimidating, not compared to most centre backs. You may think he's been "a titan", but personally I think he's pretty poor in the air. He's very good at backing into defenders then falling over, or throwing his hands in the air and looking at the ref, but he really doesn't win that many headers. I believe Hunt is better in the air than Pog.

I'm not saying Hunt is an outstanding candidate to play upfront in a 4-51, I think he's a relatively poor option, but I do think he's a better option than Pog.

[loyalroyal4life]

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Leigertwood's just finding some form and you want to drop him?

He has had all season to find form, dont think you can class a couple of ok games as finding form. Most people class finding form as playing better than his diabolical performances previously.

Jem>>Ledge

So you agree with me then?

Yes i would like to see him dropped, long overdue IMO

[winchester_royal]

That you believe Noel Hunt to be more of a goal threat than Pog. The same Noel Hunt with 2 goals from 17 appearances this season, and 8 goals from 41 appearances in the Championship last season. That you believe Noel Hunt would be able to hold the ball up better than Pog despite that fact that our big fcuking Russian has been an absolute titan in that respect over the past few games and Hunt has the touch of a rapist. That you believe Noel's style of movement which is 'stay offside and hope the lino doesn't notice' would be at all useful when playing 4-5-1.. etc.

The thing is though, he really isn't that big, commanding or intimidating, not compared to most centre backs. You may think he's been "a titan", but personally I think he's pretty poor in the air. He's very good at backing into defenders then falling over, or throwing his hands in the air and looking at the ref, but he really doesn't win that many headers. I believe Hunt is better in the air than Pog.

I'm not saying Hunt is an outstanding candidate to play upfront in a 4-51, I think he's a relatively poor option, but I do think he's a better option than Pog.

I didn't say Pog was particularly good in the air, but there isn't any point in being good in the air when you have nobody around to flick the ball on to. Pog is excellent at holding the ball up for a few seconds while midfielders try and join him or winning a free-kick. Personally I can't see Noel doing that effectively. Yes, Noel is the best we have in the air, but on the ground he is an exceptionally limited footballer.