Sorry from West Ham

[bobbybottler]

I'm OK with Orient.

It's Billy Big Bollocks WHU fans who think they're better than Orient that make me puke.

[From Despair To Where?]

What's your take on the cutting of ticket prices to fill the OS having an effect on Leyton Orient's attendance and viability?

I find it absolutely hilarious. The fact that a side that averages what about 2.5k per match, run by some clueless clown, believe they deserve a ground share. Bizarre. I hate everything about them. If our move drives them into the ground and kills the club, I'll be delighted. Tiny club, no history, crap league, crap team, no fans

Thing is, it's comments like that that make you look like a head up your arse Billy Big Bollox, like the majority of WHU fans we get on here.

We may be a light years from where we were 20 years ago but we don't forget where we have come from and remarks belittling smaller clubs don't go down too well.


... a bit rich calling Hearn a oxf*rd when WHU employ Brooking and are owned by a pair of dildo salesmen.

[Hampshire Royal]

A friend of mine is an Orient fan and I went with him to a game at Brisbane Road. The standard of football was pretty atrocious, to be honest (they were playing Franchise FC). What I did enjoy was the same atmosphere in the ground that we used to get when I started to watch Reading. The players weren't prima donnas and actually talked to fans before, during and after the game. It was like football was pre-Sky!! If they ever got a groundshare at the OS, all that would go and the club would lose a lot of the 'feeling' it has now.

As for Hearn being a wakner, maybe he is,but at least he didn't make his money from producing porn. What do you think, WHTID, about the theory that Gold and Sullivan only moved into the OS so that W Ham would be a more attractive club to sell to some rich foreign owner?

[marcusopp]

I know it hurts going down

Not really. Most of us will still turn up to watch 11 men in blue and white shirts playing against another 11 men in different coloured shirts. The main differences will be:

- More games
- It will be cheaper
- We're more likely to win
- We're more likely to score
- We can have some better away days
- Less pundits taking rubbish about us
- Less 'blokes down the pub' talking rubbish about us
- Less prima donna players
- Less prima donna opposition
- Less big club favouritism from refs
- More chance of young players who come from Reading getting a game

The only downside appear to be:
- Less money for the club, but that doesn't really affect me personally anyway
- Lower profile for the club. Again doesn't bother me, i like being different and supporting little old Reading

I concur, word for word!
It's amazing how we were yoyo-ing between the 3rd and 4th tiers until SJM took over, no we're between the 1st and 2nd (albeit mostly the 2nd). The man is a total legend.

You forgot one bad point, the football league show is on too late for me (old)!

[WHTID]

I'm OK with Orient.

It's Billy Big Bollocks WHU fans who think they're better than Orient that make me puke.

That's fair enough bobby, I respect that and that's fine with you liking orient. Although honestly, I'm really not a big bollocks west ham fan. Fact is, we are better than orient. Anyone who says west ham are not better than Leyton Orient needs something checked. It's simu because they're an east London rival. I'm not 100% sure who your rivals are, but I'm sure I maybe feel the same about some of the sides you don't like either. But yeah I have nothing wrong with you liking them

[WHTID]

What's your take on the cutting of ticket prices to fill the OS having an effect on Leyton Orient's attendance and viability?

I find it absolutely hilarious. The fact that a side that averages what about 2.5k per match, run by some clueless clown, believe they deserve a ground share. Bizarre. I hate everything about them. If our move drives them into the ground and kills the club, I'll be delighted. Tiny club, no history, crap league, crap team, no fans

Thing is, it's comments like that that make you look like a head up your arse Billy Big Bollox, like the majority of WHU fans we get on here.

We may be a light years from where we were 20 years ago but we don't forget where we have come from and remarks belittling smaller clubs don't go down too well.


... a bit rich calling Hearn a oxf*rd when WHU employ Brooking and are owned by a pair of dildo salesmen.

That's fair enough. Personally, I'm gonna have to disagree with you calling me big bollocks about taking the mick over leyton orient. I have absolutely nothing wrong with smaller clubs, such as orient, and have as much respect for them as any other side. However, it is mainly the comments made by Hearn, claiming that our move to the OS is gonna run his side out of business, is bull.

[WHTID]

A friend of mine is an Orient fan and I went with him to a game at Brisbane Road. The standard of football was pretty atrocious, to be honest (they were playing Franchise FC). What I did enjoy was the same atmosphere in the ground that we used to get when I started to watch Reading. The players weren't prima donnas and actually talked to fans before, during and after the game. It was like football was pre-Sky!! If they ever got a groundshare at the OS, all that would go and the club would lose a lot of the 'feeling' it has now.

As for Hearn being a wakner, maybe he is,but at least he didn't make his money from producing porn. What do you think, WHTID, about the theory that Gold and Sullivan only moved into the OS so that W Ham would be a more attractive club to sell to some rich foreign owner?

Honestly I think that's possibly part of their plan. I'm not 100% sure it'll work in all honesty, but yes I do feel once we move, they will try to let us go. The move was one of the main targets they had and now that has been secured, I can see them at some point trying to cash in. Would I like a big foreign owner like city? No. I love being a bit of a yoyo club. I have no doubts either that, despite having supported West Ham all my life, I'd be called plastic by a number of idiots from other sides. We'll just have to see

[From Despair To Where?]

I have absolutely nothing wrong with smaller clubs, such as orient, and have as much respect for them as any other side.

I hate everything about them. If our move drives them into the ground and kills the club, I'll be delighted

That's the kind of respect we've come to expect from WHU fans.

In all seriousness though, it does make a change to have a West Ham fan on here who'd vocabulary extends to more than swearing, belittling us as a "small" club and mentioning 1966 as if it was justifiction for being an obnoxious twat, so no offence intended.

[bobbybottler]

......honestly, I'm really not a big bollocks west ham fan.

Fact is, we are better than orient.

cLOLassy.

I'm out.

{edit - all s rted now}

[sandman]

I'm OK with Orient.

It's Billy Big Bollocks WHU fans who think they're better than Orient that make me puke.

That's fair enough bobby, I respect that and that's fine with you liking orient. Although honestly, I'm really not a big bollocks west ham fan. Fact is, we are better than orient. Anyone who says west ham are not better than Leyton Orient needs something checked. It's simu because they're an east London rival. I'm not 100% sure who your rivals are, but I'm sure I maybe feel the same about some of the sides you don't like either. But yeah I have nothing wrong with you liking them

We've sort of surpassed all of our rivals . One of them is trying their best to catch up. They used to have a mad, fascist Italian as their manager, who you might know from somewhere, but he left them.

[Rex]

What's with the influx of West Ham fans? Have they been lurking, wait to strike when we mention them?

Newly registered just before they blow their bubbles while five of use have a mongfest with Mr Blobby for £49.
Thorpe Park anyone?

[Big Ern]

Also unlucky about relegation.

Have you seen us (attempt to) play this season?

[Reading4eva]

I'm OK with Orient.

It's Billy Big Bollocks WHU fans who think they're better than Orient that make me puke.

That's fair enough bobby, I respect that and that's fine with you liking orient. Although honestly, I'm really not a big bollocks west ham fan. Fact is, we are better than orient. Anyone who says west ham are not better than Leyton Orient needs something checked. It's simu because they're an east London rival. I'm not 100% sure who your rivals are, but I'm sure I maybe feel the same about some of the sides you don't like either. But yeah I have nothing wrong with you liking them

We are definitely 100% bigger than Aldershit (if you can call them rivals and not a pub team), A lot lot bigger than Poxford and bigger but could end up in the same league as Swine.

We might be getting relegated but we are still going to be a league above the Golden Shower (Wulvurhumpton Wundururs)

Guess your right. Still don't mind Orient. Surely in a game against Franchise FC you have to support the real club. That is one club I do want to see go out of business along with the rise for the new Wimbledon

[LUX]

+1 for liking Orient ( I used to live nearby and went to watch them in the 80's)

I'm neutral on WHU, but far prefer them to many clubs in the Premiership.

[Alexander Litvinenko]

A friend of mine is an Orient fan and I went with him to a game at Brisbane Road. The standard of football was pretty atrocious, to be honest (they were playing Franchise FC). What I did enjoy was the same atmosphere in the ground that we used to get when I started to watch Reading. The players weren't prima donnas and actually talked to fans before, during and after the game. It was like football was pre-Sky!! If they ever got a groundshare at the OS, all that would go and the club would lose a lot of the 'feeling' it has now.

As for Hearn being a wakner, maybe he is,but at least he didn't make his money from producing porn. What do you think, WHTID, about the theory that Gold and Sullivan only moved into the OS so that W Ham would be a more attractive club to sell to some rich foreign owner?

Honestly I think that's possibly part of their plan. I'm not 100% sure it'll work in all honesty, but yes I do feel once we move, they will try to let us go. The move was one of the main targets they had and now that has been secured, I can see them at some point trying to cash in. Would I like a big foreign owner like city? No. I love being a bit of a yoyo club. I have no doubts either that, despite having supported West Ham all my life, I'd be called plastic by a number of idiots from other sides. We'll just have to see

Surely the cashing in from G&S is happening already - it's criminal that they get to pocket the proceeds from the sale of the Boleyn Ground after the move to the Olympic Stadium, considering how much the good people of Newham will be putting into the deal. Why the ground sale can't cover the conversions costs is beyond me, and I think this a a big part of why the two pornographers came to West ham in the first place.

Mind you, I think Barry Hearn is a duplicitous scumbag just as much as G&S well - he's more interested in the property sale than the long-term future of the club he's in charge of.

[Hedley Lamarr]

I don't quite see why other hammers have a problem with Orient or their fans as we've never really had much to do with them with regard to fixtures. Hearn is really only contesting West Ham because he has to be seen to be doing something and it's questionable whether our move there will affect Orient at all.

I personally don't think Gold and Sullivan are solely in it for the money but then who would blame them if they were? It's not like other club owners are in it just to give their own fortunes away. G&S have so far halved our debt of £100mil and nobody can really complain about where we are in the league or having a raised profile and status. We could easily have gone the way of Portsmouth.

But i do agree with a lot of you guys in saying that its about not forgetting your past and where you came from. I also agree that like reading, out of the seasons i've been watching West Ham over the last 33 years, the championship seasons have probably been the most enjoyable. And these ticket prices of £49 are out of order. west Ham like many other clubs want their cake and eat it but ultimately it's the rediculous players wage demands that is killing football as thats where all the money goes. Next season there is a bigger tv revenue yet the ticket prices are still going up!

[runtyroyal]

I know it hurts going down

Not really. Most of us will still turn up to watch 11 men in blue and white shirts playing against another 11 men in different coloured shirts. The main differences will be:

- More games
- It will be cheaper
- We're more likely to win
- We're more likely to score
- We can have some better away days
- Less pundits taking rubbish about us
- Less 'blokes down the pub' talking rubbish about us
- Less prima donna players
- Less prima donna opposition
- Less big club favouritism from refs
- More chance of young players who come from Reading getting a game

The only downside appear to be:
- Less money for the club, but that doesn't really affect me personally anyway
- Lower profile for the club. Again doesn't bother me, i like being different and supporting little old Reading

Exactly how i feel too, the best we could hope for in the premier is to become WBA or Fulham. Finished mid table, maybe beat one of the top four at home every now and then, throw in a cup run every 10 years. Rather have a few promotions and relegation, much more exciting.

Also on the point of ticket prices, £49 quid is expensive for west ham away but i did may £40 to watch us play against southampton (who we managed to make look like barca, sorry i mean Bayern btw!) which i'm pretty sure cost be £26 last year.

[From Despair To Where?]

I don't quite see why other hammers have a problem with Orient or their fans as we've never really had much to do with them with regard to fixtures. Hearn is really only contesting West Ham because he has to be seen to be doing something and it's questionable whether our move there will affect Orient at all.

I personally don't think Gold and Sullivan are solely in it for the money but then who would blame them if they were? It's not like other club owners are in it just to give their own fortunes away. G&S have so far halved our debt of £100mil and nobody can really complain about where we are in the league or having a raised profile and status. We could easily have gone the way of Portsmouth.

But i do agree with a lot of you guys in saying that its about not forgetting your past and where you came from. I also agree that like reading, out of the seasons i've been watching West Ham over the last 33 years, the championship seasons have probably been the most enjoyable. And these ticket prices of £49 are out of order. west Ham like many other clubs want their cake and eat it but ultimately it's the rediculous players wage demands that is killing football as thats where all the money goes. Next season there is a bigger tv revenue yet the ticket prices are still going up!

Careful now, with well reasoned and sensible posts like that, you'll be giving West Ham fans a bad name.

[Vision]

As for Hearn being a wakner, maybe he is,but at least he didn't make his money from producing porn. What do you think, WHTID, about the theory that Gold and Sullivan only moved into the OS so that W Ham would be a more attractive club to sell to some rich foreign owner?

What's wrong with making money from porn?

In all seriousness it's a bit rich (ha!) for us Reading fans to bitch about how other clubs owners attained their wealth given the rumours that surround the sort of practices Boris Z employed to assemble the family fortune.

[Zaretsky]

What's your take on the cutting of ticket prices to fill the OS having an effect on Leyton Orient's attendance and viability?

I find it absolutely hilarious. The fact that a side that averages what about 2.5k per match, run by some clueless clown, believe they deserve a ground share. Bizarre. I hate everything about them. If our move drives them into the ground and kills the club, I'll be delighted. Tiny club, no history, crap league, crap team, no fans

TBH I wasn't really referring to the idea of a ground share, more that having a "big club" on their doorstep, undercutting prices to fill an athletics stadium (because actually, they're not such a "big club") is going to have a crushing effect on that 2.5k support or any chance of increasing it.

I take your point about them being "rivals" but I think it's a very short-sighted view that actually wants a rival to go under. I detest Aldershot (more because it's a terrible place than the club) but my smile didn't last very long when I saw they'd been relegated as it meant we'd be even less likely to play them any time soon. Rivalry helps define your own club and adds excitement to what could otherwise be just another fixture. Bit obvious to say but football is played between two teams and you can't have any success without someone top beat (unless the game really gets conceived of as a market and we want to see all competitors fail as businesses and not just as teams on the field).