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Re: FAO The Optimists

by P!ssed Off » 23 Nov 2013 18:39

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P!ssed Off Now we're out of the Play-offs what is the official line of response to those who dare complain.
Obviously "stop complaining, we're in the play-offs" is out the window.

'Work in progress'?
'Attractive football'?


It's November you oxf*rd retard. That is all.


A good excuse, but displays a bit too much short term thinking imo.
You'd be able to milk, "It's pre-Christmas you oxf*rd retard. That is all.", for a whole month, for instance.
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Re: FAO The Optimists

by Lucky Libran » 23 Nov 2013 18:46

Barry the bird boggler If we start accepting second best and not raising concerns about the way things are currently then we'll end up second best.


Yeah, but that's still a promotion slot.

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by AirRaidSiren » 23 Nov 2013 18:49

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P!ssed Off Now we're out of the Play-offs what is the official line of response to those who dare complain.
Obviously "stop complaining, we're in the play-offs" is out the window.

'Work in progress'?
'Attractive football'?


It's November you oxf*rd retard. That is all.


A good excuse, but a bit too much short term thinking imo.
You'd be able to milk, "It's pre-Christmas you oxf*rd retard. That is all.", for a whole month, for instance.


Maybe. The problem here is that Nigel has never been accepted by many on here, the manager is here to get us where we want to be, we all have the same aim but it takes time and some aren't prepared to give him time, no matter what he does.

I wasn't a lover of Adkins, as he came from the team I dislike most, but I'm also no hater of him, he was my second choice. I can see certain things he is implementing into the squad, it isn't balanced at this moment in time...but as you know, I know and every other fan who has been in this league, there is always one team who surges into the playoffs/auto place after xmas nearly every season.

I truly believe Adkins can succeed here, with support from fans, the club and the team....in time. Nothing wrong with supporting it, is there?

Come Xmas, would you be pleased or disappointed in us being there or there about?

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by Handsome Man » 23 Nov 2013 19:01

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Barry the bird boggler If we start accepting second best and not raising concerns about the way things are currently then we'll end up second best.


Yeah, but that's still a promotion slot.


I don't see how our acceptance of things can influence what's going to happen. When in recent history has short-sighted internet whinging influenced what goes on at a football club. Man Utd don't let their least intelligent fans determine club policy.

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by winchester_royal » 23 Nov 2013 19:10

Barry the bird boggler
winchester_royal I enjoy a good knee jerk as much as the next guy...but seriously, a thread like this after a clean sheet and point at a Blackburn side with the division's best striker?

Odd.


If we're seriously harbouring intent of going up we should be expecting to win at places like Blackburn. Expectations on the club are high because of the way they have progressed over the last 10 years and we should not be accepting the general crap we have had to put up with for the last 18 months. If we start accepting second best and not raising concerns about the way things are currently then we'll end up second best.

I'm not saying that we should be delighted with a point, I'm just questioning whether it deserves the negative reaction its been getting.


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Re: FAO The Optimists

by facaldaqui » 23 Nov 2013 19:14

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Maybe. The problem here is that Nigel has never been accepted by many on here, the manager is here to get us where we want to be, we all have the same aim but it takes time and some aren't prepared to give him time, no matter what he does.

I wasn't a lover of Adkins, as he came from the team I dislike most, but I'm also no hater of him, he was my second choice. I can see certain things he is implementing into the squad, it isn't balanced at this moment in time...but as you know, I know and every other fan who has been in this league, there is always one team who surges into the playoffs/auto place after xmas nearly every season.

I truly believe Adkins can succeed here, with support from fans, the club and the team....in time. Nothing wrong with supporting it, is there?

Come Xmas, would you be pleased or disappointed in us being there or there about?


I think a lot of fans are quite legitimately waiting for something make them buy into Adkins, rather than a lot of them just hating him for the sake of it. All of us would like nothing better than for Reading to succeed sooner rather than later, and that would trigger a marked rise in Adkins's popularity. I am slightly surprised at the few fans who rhapsodise about Adkins's improvement over Brian, because the evidence for that remains patchy. Most people are underwhelmed so far, that's all, and with justification.

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by LoyalRoyalFan » 23 Nov 2013 19:18

Optimism? Bringing Hope Akpan on at half-time was a thrilling substitution.

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by AirRaidSiren » 23 Nov 2013 19:21

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Maybe. The problem here is that Nigel has never been accepted by many on here, the manager is here to get us where we want to be, we all have the same aim but it takes time and some aren't prepared to give him time, no matter what he does.

I wasn't a lover of Adkins, as he came from the team I dislike most, but I'm also no hater of him, he was my second choice. I can see certain things he is implementing into the squad, it isn't balanced at this moment in time...but as you know, I know and every other fan who has been in this league, there is always one team who surges into the playoffs/auto place after xmas nearly every season.

I truly believe Adkins can succeed here, with support from fans, the club and the team....in time. Nothing wrong with supporting it, is there?

Come Xmas, would you be pleased or disappointed in us being there or there about?


I think a lot of fans are quite legitimately waiting for something make them buy into Adkins, rather than a lot of them just hating him for the sake of it. All of us would like nothing better than for Reading to succeed sooner rather than later, and that would trigger a marked rise in Adkins's popularity. I am slightly surprised at the few fans who rhapsodise about Adkins's improvement over Brian, because the evidence for that remains patchy. People are underwhelmed so far, that's all, and with justification.


I find the McDermott vs Adkins argument very tedious. It's happened, good luck, keep supporting the club. Support what's there. That's it.

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by P!ssed Off » 23 Nov 2013 19:57

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It's November you oxf*rd retard. That is all.


A good excuse, but a bit too much short term thinking imo.
You'd be able to milk, "It's pre-Christmas you oxf*rd retard. That is all.", for a whole month, for instance.


Maybe. The problem here is that Nigel has never been accepted by many on here, the manager is here to get us where we want to be, we all have the same aim but it takes time and some aren't prepared to give him time, no matter what he does.

I wasn't a lover of Adkins, as he came from the team I dislike most, but I'm also no hater of him, he was my second choice. I can see certain things he is implementing into the squad, it isn't balanced at this moment in time...but as you know, I know and every other fan who has been in this league, there is always one team who surges into the playoffs/auto place every nearly every season.

I truly believe Adkins can succeed here, with support from fans, the club and the team....in time. Nothing wrong with supporting it, is there?

Come Xmas, would you be pleased or disappointed in us being there or there about?


Almost 8 months in to Adkins's reign I expected to see us getting better, imo we're getting worse.

Recent Results:
We're on a horrendous run of form. Last 6 games, we've only won 6 points! From the last 8 games, i.e. 2nd half of the season so far, we are 13th in the league.
Conclusion: Results are getting worse.

Style of Play:
'Short passing, attractive football, I like the sound of that', I remember thinking to myself.
First of all the new style of play caused many problems, but now it appears in recent games that we've all but abandoned it. Whether Adkins has decided to change tactics, or the players have simply decided to abandon ship, I think we can all agree that it's been a failure one way or the other.

Don't just take my word for it, let's look at the statistics.
16 games in to the season we compare to the league as follows:

Shots per game = 19th
Shots ot per game = 11th
Shots conceded per game = 22nd (1st = least, 24th = most)
Possession = 13th
Pass Success % = 15th
Goals from Open Play = 18th
No. of Long balls per game = 4th
No. of Short passes per game = 12th

The stats cannot really be described as that of "attractive, short passing football".

Our 'position' in the league imo was merely an illusion. Can anyone really say we deserved to be in the top 6 for the first 15 or so games? We were uninspiring throughout (as the stats back-up).

Honestly, if the rest of the teams in the division hadn't started so slowly we would never have stayed in the top 6 for as long as we did.

I would be delighted if we are top 6 by Christmas. I would be content if we are 7th or 8th.
If we are any lower than that (a real possibility, check next weekend fixtures, for instance, we could very easily end the weekend 11th) then I think Adkins may need to phuck off.


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Re: FAO The Optimists

by Ascotexgunner » 23 Nov 2013 20:00

Optimist here. Dear Pissed Off, please f@ck off because if you want to support a team that's constantly in the premiership and winning things, which sounds about right, then Chelsea ain't that far as stressed by another previous post.

The rest of you, get a grip, we are only 9 points off the top and the teams above will start to splutter at some point, once we've sorted the injuries out the wins will come.

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by AirRaidSiren » 23 Nov 2013 20:17

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A good excuse, but a bit too much short term thinking imo.
You'd be able to milk, "It's pre-Christmas you oxf*rd retard. That is all.", for a whole month, for instance.


Maybe. The problem here is that Nigel has never been accepted by many on here, the manager is here to get us where we want to be, we all have the same aim but it takes time and some aren't prepared to give him time, no matter what he does.

I wasn't a lover of Adkins, as he came from the team I dislike most, but I'm also no hater of him, he was my second choice. I can see certain things he is implementing into the squad, it isn't balanced at this moment in time...but as you know, I know and every other fan who has been in this league, there is always one team who surges into the playoffs/auto place every nearly every season.

I truly believe Adkins can succeed here, with support from fans, the club and the team....in time. Nothing wrong with supporting it, is there?

Come Xmas, would you be pleased or disappointed in us being there or there about?


Almost 8 months in to Adkins's reign I expected to see us getting better, imo we're getting worse.

Recent Results:
We're on a horrendous run of form. Last 6 games, we've only won 6 points! From the last 8 games, i.e. 2nd half of the season so far, we are 13th in the league.
Conclusion: Results are getting worse.

Style of Play:
'Short passing, attractive football, I like the sound of that', I remember thinking to myself.
First of all the new style of play caused many problems, but now it appears in recent games that we've all but abandoned it. Whether Adkins has decided to change tactics, or the players have simply decided to abandon ship, I think we can all agree that it's been a failure one way or the other.

Don't just take my word for it, let's look at the statistics.
16 games in to the season we compare to the league as follows:

Shots per game = 19th
Shots ot per game = 11th
Shots conceded per game = 22nd (1st = least, 24th = most)
Possession = 13th
Pass Success % = 15th
Goals from Open Play = 18th
No. of Long balls per game = 4th
No. of Short passes per game = 12th

The stats cannot really be described as that of "attractive, short passing football".

Our 'position' in the league imo was merely an illusion. Can anyone really say we deserved to be in the top 6 for the first 15 or so games? We were uninspiring throughout (as the stats back-up).

Honestly, if the rest of the teams in the division hadn't started so slowly we would never have stayed in the top 6 for as long as we did.

I would be delighted if we are top 6 by Christmas. I would be content if we are 7th or 8th.
If we are any lower than that (a real possibility, check next weekend fixtures, for instance, we could very easily end the weekend 11th) then I think Adkins may need to phuck off.



I'm sorry, I find that reply quite shallow. Is there any need for statistics? The table doesn't lie minus your.....crap. We are in a good position, considering your VERY negative attitude and statistics. Also, the only time I think it's right to say 'thanks Nige, your time to go' is IF we are in the same position this time next year. You cannot EXPECT a manager with a different outlook to totally change things and BANG! promotion in this short space of time.

Honestly, the way some of you nippers react, you're trapping off as if we're in a relegation fight.

Get a grip
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Re: FAO The Optimists

by madstadblues » 23 Nov 2013 20:20

Unfortunately or fortunately I support Reading as it is the team that represents the town I was born in. Its's great when we win, not so great when we lose but the friends I meet each match home and sometimes away are a constant. As soon as you achieve some success your doomed as the only way is down. I have seen some s""t football and a 0 0 draw away to Blackburn is nothing to be ashamed of. My point is its' not about being an optimist or a pessimist but a supporter. I think the whole 'shock jock' Dim Tellor approach of whipping up negativity through impartial broadcasting is contributing to this division in opinions. He should really get a job with Radio Leeds but Yorkshire is 'so common'

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by AirRaidSiren » 23 Nov 2013 20:24

madstadblues Unfortunately or fortunately I support Reading as it is the team that represents the town I was born in. Its's great when we win, not so great when we lose but the friends I meet each match home and sometimes away are a constant. As soon as you achieve some success your doomed as the only way is down. I have seen some s""t football and a 0 0 draw away to Blackburn is nothing to be ashamed of. My point is its' not about being an optimist or a pessimist but a supporter. I think the whole 'shock jock' Dim Tellor approach of whipping up negativity through impartial broadcasting is contributing to this division in opinions. He should really get a job with Radio Leeds but Yorkshire is 'so common'


Well said. I'm Reading born and bred but haven't lived there for many years, Tim Dellor disgusts me. A total cnut.


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Re: FAO The Optimists

by Stevie G » 23 Nov 2013 20:42

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The rest of you, get a grip, we are only 9 points off the top and the teams above will start to splutter at some point, once we've sorted the injuries out the wins will come.


Actually we're 10 points adrift, but significantly against 3rd/joint 1st! At present we are not in league with the top 3, and now I struggle to believe that we'll make the top 6. Never bank on promotion each year, but to not achieve the play-offs, if we don't, would be a season wasted.
And at present the goal difference supports my concern. Where are those jewels that secure points gong to come from!!!!

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by Avon Royal » 23 Nov 2013 21:22

I for one am furious.

Why haven't we won the league yet? It's November already FFS.
Why haven't we signed Ronaldo?
Why are there no Reading players in the World Cup squad?

Adkins out!

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by sandman » 23 Nov 2013 21:48

Ascotexgunner Optimist here. Dear Pissed Off, please f@ck off because if you want to support a team that's constantly in the premiership and winning things, which sounds about right, then Chelsea ain't that far as stressed by another previous post.

The rest of you, get a grip, we are only 9 points off the top and the teams above will start to splutter at some point, once we've sorted the injuries out the wins will come.

Can you fcuk off with all this go and support Chelsea business? Oh and take all the other tiresome tw@ts who spout it with you.

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by LoyalRoyalFan » 23 Nov 2013 22:28

Avon Royal I for one am furious.

Why haven't we won the league yet? It's November already FFS.
Why haven't we signed Ronaldo?
Why are there no Reading players in the World Cup squad?

Adkins out!


Why can't Adkins play away from home?
Why does Adkins take pot shots at our support?
Why is this team going downwards?

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by AirRaidSiren » 23 Nov 2013 23:13

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Avon Royal I for one am furious.

Why haven't we won the league yet? It's November already FFS.
Why haven't we signed Ronaldo?
Why are there no Reading players in the World Cup squad?

Adkins out!


Why can't Adkins play away from home?
Why does Adkins take pot shots at our support?
Why is this team going downwards?


Why are you such a twat?

You need a better team to support, I have one suggestion for you, team Kyle. Go Jeremy!

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by sandman » 23 Nov 2013 23:21

Why have we struggled so much away from home recently then AirRaidSiren?

Why have we dropped out of the play-off positions aka downwards?

It's easy for you to throw around personal insults just because you have an issue with a certain poster but not so easy for you to actually give some actual answers.

I can see why you like Adkins ARS.

He doesn't like answering questions either.

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Re: FAO The Optimists

by LoyalRoyal22 » 23 Nov 2013 23:37

sandman Why have we struggled so much away from home recently then AirRaidSiren?

Why have we dropped out of the play-off positions aka downwards?

It's easy for you to throw around personal insults just because you have an issue with a certain poster but not so easy for you to actually give some actual answers.

I can see why you like Adkins ARS.

He doesn't like answering questions either.


Lack of investment and bad injuries, why do you think ??

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