BFTG Forest

[kwik-silva]

Had the game finished 30 seconds earlier this mongboard would be in meltdown and fans would have been calling for the manager to go at the final whistle

So true!!

true, but it didn't.

[peterroyal76]

Pearce was fine whenever he had someone to pass to. He had trouble whenever he didn't have someone to pass to.

I agree, however instead of putting it in touch he could have reverted to type and put on the centre backs head.

[peterroyal76]

Had the game finished 30 seconds earlier this mongboard would be in meltdown and fans would have been calling for the manager to go at the final whistle

So true!!

true, but it didn't.

They'll just wait until the next defeat.

[urz13]

Crap. Boring as usual, no idea what style of football it was but it certainly wasn't a passing style and had more hoofing than any McDermott team.

McCarthy - 6, some good saves but woeful kicking. Again.
Cummings - 4, atrocious, EVERY SINGLE TIME he gets the ball he chips it up the line, usually out for a goal kick.
Peace - 5, not great, too much hoofing, nearly scored.
Gunter - 6, did very well considering he was out of position - hoofed it too much though, like the rest of the defence.
Kelly - 4, awful until the 95th minute.
Guthrie - 5, shocking for most of it, woke up after the 80th minute, shouldn't be captain based on his screaming at other players for his mistakes.
Williams - 6, seemed effective yet ineffective, but did okay.
McCleary - 3, completely anonymous for the entire time he was on.
Blackman - 7.5, great from him bar a couple of howlers.
Pogrebynak - 5, ineffective due to the hoofball.
Sharp - 4, didn't get into the game at all, very poor, lacked movement and willingness to close down.

Le Fondre - 6, much livelier than Sharp, didn't really get any service but his movement and closing down helped us to advance up the pitch.
Drenthe - 7.5, changed the game for us with his dynamism and skill, great delivery too.

Atmosphere was good, the fans tried hard to get behind the team too.

[SPARTA]

I don't have it in me to summarise another diabolical performance, but will say Blackman was superb today, and the rest were dire. Special mention for Guthrie, who I have always liked and wanted to do well here, but I am starting to agree that he is a problem in midfield. I lost count through utter frustration today how many times he wanted the ball and ignored/didn't see what was on, before passing backwards to the defence, or kept the ball until the moment passed. If he's being told, as Adkins suggested after the Boro game, that he wants the ball played sooner but the players just aren't doing it, I just wonder if Guthrie seems to think he knows better than the manager (again).. or that he's simply over-rated and can't read the game.

Blackman - excellent
Guthrie - frustrating
Pearce - a joke
The rest - awful

[marlowuk]

They need to play like that for more than 10 minutes, but they've shown they can do it and we (somehow) came away with a point. There are positives but they're few and far between - they really were dire for 80 minutes.

We played well for the last 10 minutes because Forest let us. For the remainder of the game Forest played the ball around at the back (like we try to do!) but also harried us and didn't give us time on the ball. We always look bad under that sort of pressure. For the first 10-15 minutes of the second half the ball was hardly out of our half and we hardly touched the ball. I really don't understand those who say Forest were oor because then they looked anything but!! However with 10 to go, Forest decided that 1-0 was enough and tried to protect that lead. That was a mistake as it enabled us to get forward at pace and put them under pressure for a change. We got the draw that we really didn't deserve.

Forest missed two gilt-edged chances in the second half and McCarthy was forced into making a few decent saves as well. MOTM was probably Nick Blackman who worked hard, showed some good skill and had a thunderous drive that just missed the goal. He also laid off a peach of a pass deflecting the ball to Cummings to set a dangerous attack.

POG would have been joint MOTM (again!) but was lucky to stay on the pitch after a sliding two footed challenge borne out of frustration.

Gunter did pretty well as a central defender but it meant we lacked height in our box at corners etc.

Pearce had a 'mare! Guthrie did little better although he had a screamer of a shot brilliantly saved by their keeper. I had him down as POTS after about 15 games but he has not had a good game for a while now. He likes to collect the ball, look around, pass it and then move into a position to be available for a return pass if necessary. Unlike most of our players he seems to want the ball which is good. But he likes time on the ball and he hasn't been getting that recently.

Kelly didn't look very solid but he did score our goal! Cummings did OK against a tricky winger.

Both Sharp and Alf were pretty anonymous; McCleary had a few good runs and one good tight-angled shot that just missed the post but wasn't on form today.

Royston added some life when he was brought on and was the only player seemingly capable of crossing the ball effectively (from which we scored)

Williams showed some nice touches but has not, for me, realised the potential he showed early season.

Nice to see Niall Keown given a run for the final 8 minutes or so. Can't remember him doing anything of note but good to get one of our youngsters involved.

[bcubed]

Guthrie needs to take the passes when they're on, and not get himself into trouble whilst simultaneously slowing the game and passing it back to Pearce - who then has no options.

Passing back to Pearcey should always be the last option for everyone
He can head and boot it out but passing is not his game

[royalp-we]

Absolute toilet for 75 mins. Negatives were billy sharp and Pearce. Positives being Gunter, Blackman, Pog and drenthe; when he came on (aside from that terrible effort he smashed wide!)

Really annoyed that when forest scored, Adkins (who had been up out of his seat clapping as per), just went to the dug out and sat with his hands in his pockets. I know the players realised the mistake of losing the man, but FFS they just carried on with no drive until drenthe and alf came on. We look like we have completely lost the team rapport that has served us so well under previous management.

All in all, a good point. I pray we kick on from this. You can take the positives from the last 10 mins but the majority was hoofball (adkins 'style' meh) The tactics and mindset need to change and quickly.

[SHORT AND CURLY]

They need to play like that for more than 10 minutes, but they've shown they can do it and we (somehow) came away with a point. There are positives but they're few and far between - they really were dire for 80 minutes.

Nice to see Niall Keown given a run for the final 8 minutes or so. Can't remember him doing anything of note but good to get one of our youngsters involved.

Err Keown ???

Back to the game.

Utter Utter Shite

Adkins has not got a clue.
Funny that in two home games the proverbial kitchen sink comes out and we score.
Play to his tactics and we are utter, utter rubbish.

Manager got out of gaol with the last minute "undeserved" equaliser

ADKINS OUT

[RoyalBlue]

They need to play like that for more than 10 minutes, but they've shown they can do it and we (somehow) came away with a point. There are positives but they're few and far between - they really were dire for 80 minutes.

We played well for the last 10 minutes because Forest let us. For the remainder of the game Forest played the ball around at the back (like we try to do!) but also harried us and didn't give us time on the ball. We always look bad under that sort of pressure. For the first 10-15 minutes of the second half the ball was hardly out of our half and we hardly touched the ball. I really don't understand those who say Forest were oor because then they looked anything but!! However with 10 to go, Forest decided that 1-0 was enough and tried to protect that lead. That was a mistake as it enabled us to get forward at pace and put them under pressure for a change. We got the draw that we really didn't deserve.

Forest missed two gilt-edged chances in the second half and McCarthy was forced into making a few decent saves as well. MOTM was probably Nick Blackman who worked hard, showed some good skill and had a thunderous drive that just missed the goal. He also laid off a peach of a pass deflecting the ball to Cummings to set a dangerous attack.

POG would have been joint MOTM (again!) but was lucky to stay on the pitch after a sliding two footed challenge borne out of frustration.

Gunter did pretty well as a central defender but it meant we lacked height in our box at corners etc.

Pearce had a 'mare! Guthrie did little better although he had a screamer of a shot brilliantly saved by their keeper. I had him down as POTS after about 15 games but he has not had a good game for a while now. He likes to collect the ball, look around, pass it and then move into a position to be available for a return pass if necessary. Unlike most of our players he seems to want the ball which is good. But he likes time on the ball and he hasn't been getting that recently.

Kelly didn't look very solid but he did score our goal! Cummings did OK against a tricky winger.

Both Sharp and Alf were pretty anonymous; McCleary had a few good runs and one good tight-angled shot that just missed the post but wasn't on form today.

Royston added some life when he was brought on and was the only player seemingly capable of crossing the ball effectively (from which we scored)

Williams showed some nice touches but has not, for me, realised the potential he showed early season.

Nice to see Niall Keown given a run for the final 8 minutes or so. Can't remember him doing anything of note but good to get one of our youngsters involved.

We brought on four subs?

Niall Keown is a centre back. I'm sure we brought on a midfielder by the name of Jake Taylor. I thought he looked very good, made some great runs into space but his teammates failed to spot them/pick them out.

[bcubed]

I don't have it in me to summarise another diabolical performance, but will say Blackman was superb today, and the rest were dire. Special mention for Guthrie, who I have always liked and wanted to do well here, but I am starting to agree that he is a problem in midfield. I lost count through utter frustration today how many times he wanted the ball and ignored/didn't see what was on, before passing backwards to the defence, or kept the ball until the moment passed. If he's being told, as Adkins suggested after the Boro game, that he wants the ball played sooner but the players just aren't doing it, I just wonder if Guthrie seems to think he knows better than the manager (again).. or that he's simply over-rated and can't read the game.

Blackman - excellent
Guthrie - frustrating
Pearce - a joke
The rest - awful

Am still convinced that Guthrie plays much better with Baird behind him. I think he's trying to be the last man in midfield supporting the defence AND creating all our forward moves
Either way it's clearly not working

[Glory Boy]

They need to play like that for more than 10 minutes, but they've shown they can do it and we (somehow) came away with a point. There are positives but they're few and far between - they really were dire for 80 minutes.

We played well for the last 10 minutes because Forest let us. For the remainder of the game Forest played the ball around at the back (like we try to do!) but also harried us and didn't give us time on the ball. We always look bad under that sort of pressure. For the first 10-15 minutes of the second half the ball was hardly out of our half and we hardly touched the ball. I really don't understand those who say Forest were oor because then they looked anything but!! However with 10 to go, Forest decided that 1-0 was enough and tried to protect that lead. That was a mistake as it enabled us to get forward at pace and put them under pressure for a change. We got the draw that we really didn't deserve.

Forest missed two gilt-edged chances in the second half and McCarthy was forced into making a few decent saves as well. MOTM was probably Nick Blackman who worked hard, showed some good skill and had a thunderous drive that just missed the goal. He also laid off a peach of a pass deflecting the ball to Cummings to set a dangerous attack.
.

I thought for 80 minutes Forest were the best side at Mad this season ( Not that it is a great accolade in this mediocre Championship ) . Last 10 minutes they reverted to ultra defensive tactics with reckless passes and hoofballs. I would have taken a point before the game and I think this point taken in the circumstances could be good building block for us to find some form.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

They need to play like that for more than 10 minutes, but they've shown they can do it and we (somehow) came away with a point. There are positives but they're few and far between - they really were dire for 80 minutes.

We played well for the last 10 minutes because Forest let us. For the remainder of the game Forest played the ball around at the back (like we try to do!) but also harried us and didn't give us time on the ball. We always look bad under that sort of pressure. For the first 10-15 minutes of the second half the ball was hardly out of our half and we hardly touched the ball. I really don't understand those who say Forest were oor because then they looked anything but!! However with 10 to go, Forest decided that 1-0 was enough and tried to protect that lead. That was a mistake as it enabled us to get forward at pace and put them under pressure for a change. We got the draw that we really didn't deserve.

Forest missed two gilt-edged chances in the second half and McCarthy was forced into making a few decent saves as well. MOTM was probably Nick Blackman who worked hard, showed some good skill and had a thunderous drive that just missed the goal. He also laid off a peach of a pass deflecting the ball to Cummings to set a dangerous attack.
.

I thought for 80 minutes Forest were the best side at Mad this season ( Not that it is a great accolade in this mediocre Championship ) . Last 10 minutes they reverted to ultra defensive tactics with reckless passes and hoofballs. I would have taken a point before the game and I think this point taken in the circumstances could be good building block for us to find some form.

Not enough for that post. Forest were marginally less sh1t than us. Funny how people see games so differently.

[P!ssed Off]

Had the game finished 30 seconds earlier this mongboard would be in meltdown and fans would have been calling for the manager to go at the final whistle

They'll just wait until the next defeat.

And why not?
Shit all season. I think it's for the best if he goes.
Adkins has escaped today by the skin of his teeth.
Can't imagine we'll be too successful in the next two away games.
Home against Bolton: win or you're out Nigel.

[RoyalBlue]

They need to play like that for more than 10 minutes, but they've shown they can do it and we (somehow) came away with a point. There are positives but they're few and far between - they really were dire for 80 minutes.

We played well for the last 10 minutes because Forest let us. For the remainder of the game Forest played the ball around at the back (like we try to do!) but also harried us and didn't give us time on the ball. We always look bad under that sort of pressure. For the first 10-15 minutes of the second half the ball was hardly out of our half and we hardly touched the ball. I really don't understand those who say Forest were oor because then they looked anything but!! However with 10 to go, Forest decided that 1-0 was enough and tried to protect that lead. That was a mistake as it enabled us to get forward at pace and put them under pressure for a change. We got the draw that we really didn't deserve.

Forest missed two gilt-edged chances in the second half and McCarthy was forced into making a few decent saves as well. MOTM was probably Nick Blackman who worked hard, showed some good skill and had a thunderous drive that just missed the goal. He also laid off a peach of a pass deflecting the ball to Cummings to set a dangerous attack.
.

I thought for 80 minutes Forest were the best side at Mad this season ( Not that it is a great accolade in this mediocre Championship ) . Last 10 minutes they reverted to ultra defensive tactics with reckless passes and hoofballs. I would have taken a point before the game and I think this point taken in the circumstances could be good building block for us to find some form.

Conversely I thought they were pretty poor and ironically suffering similar problems to us. They enjoyed an awful lot of possession but did precious little with it. Some of their passing was absolutely dire, quite often to our players and on several occasions straight out of play.

On a different subject, did anyone else notice the coaching session that Sal Bibbo was giving McCarthy just before the second half? . Looked a case of 'if you're not coming for a ball you have to drop back quickly' by the demonstration he was giving. That advice could well have been associated with the Forest goal where he was caught in no-man's land, allowing Halford's header to loop over him.

Having already upset the ALF Brigade I may well now upset the McCarthy fans. I think he's a great keeper but, given that we clearly want to play back and out through our keeper, it may be time to give Feds another go, simply because McCarthy's distribution continues to be so dire. I would say McCarthy has a slight edge on Feds in terms of shot stopping but that is now more than outweighed by Feds' far superior (significantly more accurate and quicker) distribution.

And why not?
Shit all season. I think it's for the best if he goes.
Adkins has escaped today by the skin of his teeth.
Can't imagine we'll be too successful in the next two away games.
Home against Bolton: win or you're out Nigel.

Unless you've got the odd £25M+ to spare, that is not going to happen!

[marlowuk]

They need to play like that for more than 10 minutes, but they've shown they can do it and we (somehow) came away with a point. There are positives but they're few and far between - they really were dire for 80 minutes.

We played well for the last 10 minutes because Forest let us. For the remainder of the game Forest played the ball around at the back (like we try to do!) but also harried us and didn't give us time on the ball. We always look bad under that sort of pressure. For the first 10-15 minutes of the second half the ball was hardly out of our half and we hardly touched the ball. I really don't understand those who say Forest were oor because then they looked anything but!! However with 10 to go, Forest decided that 1-0 was enough and tried to protect that lead. That was a mistake as it enabled us to get forward at pace and put them under pressure for a change. We got the draw that we really didn't deserve.

Forest missed two gilt-edged chances in the second half and McCarthy was forced into making a few decent saves as well. MOTM was probably Nick Blackman who worked hard, showed some good skill and had a thunderous drive that just missed the goal. He also laid off a peach of a pass deflecting the ball to Cummings to set a dangerous attack.

POG would have been joint MOTM (again!) but was lucky to stay on the pitch after a sliding two footed challenge borne out of frustration.

Gunter did pretty well as a central defender but it meant we lacked height in our box at corners etc.

Pearce had a 'mare! Guthrie did little better although he had a screamer of a shot brilliantly saved by their keeper. I had him down as POTS after about 15 games but he has not had a good game for a while now. He likes to collect the ball, look around, pass it and then move into a position to be available for a return pass if necessary. Unlike most of our players he seems to want the ball which is good. But he likes time on the ball and he hasn't been getting that recently.

Kelly didn't look very solid but he did score our goal! Cummings did OK against a tricky winger.

Both Sharp and Alf were pretty anonymous; McCleary had a few good runs and one good tight-angled shot that just missed the post but wasn't on form today.

Royston added some life when he was brought on and was the only player seemingly capable of crossing the ball effectively (from which we scored)

Williams showed some nice touches but has not, for me, realised the potential he showed early season.

Nice to see Niall Keown given a run for the final 8 minutes or so. Can't remember him doing anything of note but good to get one of our youngsters involved.

We brought on four subs?

Niall Keown is a centre back. I'm sure we brought on a midfielder by the name of Jake Taylor. I thought he looked very good, made some great runs into space but his teammates failed to spot them/pick them out.

Yeah - my mistake. I thought I heard Keown over the public address system but it was Taylor. Sorry.

[P!ssed Off]

We played well for the last 10 minutes because Forest let us. For the remainder of the game Forest played the ball around at the back (like we try to do!) but also harried us and didn't give us time on the ball. We always look bad under that sort of pressure. For the first 10-15 minutes of the second half the ball was hardly out of our half and we hardly touched the ball. I really don't understand those who say Forest were oor because then they looked anything but!! However with 10 to go, Forest decided that 1-0 was enough and tried to protect that lead. That was a mistake as it enabled us to get forward at pace and put them under pressure for a change. We got the draw that we really didn't deserve.

Forest missed two gilt-edged chances in the second half and McCarthy was forced into making a few decent saves as well. MOTM was probably Nick Blackman who worked hard, showed some good skill and had a thunderous drive that just missed the goal. He also laid off a peach of a pass deflecting the ball to Cummings to set a dangerous attack.
.

I thought for 80 minutes Forest were the best side at Mad this season ( Not that it is a great accolade in this mediocre Championship ) . Last 10 minutes they reverted to ultra defensive tactics with reckless passes and hoofballs. I would have taken a point before the game and I think this point taken in the circumstances could be good building block for us to find some form.

Not enough for that post. Forest were marginally less sh1t than us. Funny how people see games so differently.

Jokes on you mate. You seem to be the only one attempting to claim it was a tight game.

[peterroyal76]

Had the game finished 30 seconds earlier this mongboard would be in meltdown and fans would have been calling for the manager to go at the final whistle

They'll just wait until the next defeat.

And why not?
Shit all season. I think it's for the best if he goes.
Adkins has escaped today by the skin of his teeth.
Can't imagine we'll be too successful in the next two away games.
Home against Bolton: win or you're out Nigel.

And replace him with?

[P!ssed Off]

They'll just wait until the next defeat.

And why not?
Shit all season. I think it's for the best if he goes.
Adkins has escaped today by the skin of his teeth.
Can't imagine we'll be too successful in the next two away games.
Home against Bolton: win or you're out Nigel.

And replace him with?

Not this line again.
If you think there's no manager in the land available that could get Reading playing to a higher standard than the shit we've been served up this season then you're having a laugh.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Jokes on you mate. You seem to be the only one attempting to claim it was a tight game.

I said 1st half was a dead heat (which IMO it was). They were better than us 2nd half but right at the death we came back at them. To suggest they are the best team to visit us this season is weird IMO. They weren't that good at all & looked marginally less toothless than we did.