First Royal to play for England

[Ian Royal]

Don't talk rubbish. If you want to talk about which player from the current crop has the talent to get an England call up then that should be the discussion. But it isn't, it's which Royal's (Reading FC) player will be the first to get an England call up. Herbert Smith. End of discussion.

If anything Herbert's achievement is far greater than any of our current players should they get a call up as he will never have played at the top level of English football for us.

You are a blinkered tosser and your original reply was down right offensive.

[SWLR]

Don't talk rubbish. If you want to talk about which player from the current crop has the talent to get an England call up then that should be the discussion. But it isn't, it's which Royal's (Reading FC) player will be the first to get an England call up. Herbert Smith. End of discussion.

If anything Herbert's achievement is far greater than any of our current players should they get a call up as he will never have played at the top level of English football for us.

You are a blinkered tosser and your original reply was down right offensive.

3 observations:
1. I'd leave it to the originator of the thread to determine what they intended by the thread, but to quote Amongst the Sheep's first post 'Are any of our current squad good enough?'
2. Where in the line 'Clue's in the title, Royal not Biscuitman' do you find anything offensive, it is at worst patronising.
3. Who is the 'blinkered t*sser now'

[Amongst the sheep]

Big Ern & Ian Royal

I'm touched that my clarification of the title of the thread can bring you both so close together. I'm sure you will have many happy hobnob days together.

However, let me give your more opportunity to extend your lovefest.....Clearly the thread was pointing to the future i.e. is there anyone in the current squad who can make it? Correct- that was my intention.
So while Herbert Smith's achievement should be heralded, the reality is that in the modern game for a current player to break through will be the greater achievement.

Also correct pardon my ignorance re.Herbert Smith I only started supporting Reading in 1972 so can be viewed as a newbie.

[SWLR]

Big Ern & Ian Royal

I'm touched that my clarification of the title of the thread can bring you both so close together. I'm sure you will have many happy hobnob days together.

However, let me give your more opportunity to extend your lovefest.....Clearly the thread was pointing to the future i.e. is there anyone in the current squad who can make it? Correct- that was my intention.
So while Herbert Smith's achievement should be heralded, the reality is that in the modern game for a current player to break through will be the greater achievement.

Also correct pardon my ignorance re.Herbert Smith I only started supporting Reading in 1972 so can be viewed as a newbie.

Thank you.
I rest my case m'Lord.
IR, you are hereby found guilty of being a 'blinkered t*sser'
You can work out your own punishment to fit the crime.

[Ian Royal]

Big Ern & Ian Royal

I'm touched that my clarification of the title of the thread can bring you both so close together. I'm sure you will have many happy hobnob days together.

However, let me give your more opportunity to extend your lovefest.....Clearly the thread was pointing to the future i.e. is there anyone in the current squad who can make it? Correct- that was my intention.
So while Herbert Smith's achievement should be heralded, the reality is that in the modern game for a current player to break through will be the greater achievement.

Also correct pardon my ignorance re.Herbert Smith I only started supporting Reading in 1972 so can be viewed as a newbie.

I only just found out. Now we both know a Royal has already played for England. Horay for us. You'er no Newbie, You've been around longer than I've been a alive and I'm no newbie either.

[The Cube]

which Royal's (Reading FC) player will be the first to get an England call up. Herbert Smith. End of discussion.

Well, no actually.

The first Reading player to play for England was Edward Haygarth in 1875. Johnny Holt was the second in 1900 and Herbert Smith the third in 1905.

You could perhaps be forgiven for missing out Haygarth as the official record books show him as a Swifts players despite the fact that he was Reading captain at the time and only occasionally guested for Swifts.

There is of course no excuse at all for ignoring Johnny Holt, nor for those choosing to act like complete arseholes in this thread which was posing a perfectly legitimate question about who might be next.

[exileinleeds]

Of the current team, the one I could see getting into an England shirt would be Lita, he is young, and has the potential.

[rabidbee]

Of the current team, the one I could see getting into an England shirt would be Lita, he is young, and has the potential.

Sidwell is a former U-21 international too, not that that always counts for much.

The way the system works, as soon as any of our players move to a better-established Premiership team, they will immediately be eligible for the fringes of the England squad. If any of them move to a big club, they will be automatically selected for England.

[higher]

Cube wrote:

the official record books show him as a Swifts players despite the fact that he was Reading captain at the time and only occasionally guested for Swifts.

Ah so thats when the conspiracy to belittle Reading FC started.
How very dare they

[Ian Royal]

which Royal's (Reading FC) player will be the first to get an England call up. Herbert Smith. End of discussion.

Well, no actually.

The first Reading player to play for England was Edward Haygarth in 1875. Johnny Holt was the second in 1900 and Herbert Smith the third in 1905.

You could perhaps be forgiven for missing out Haygarth as the official record books show him as a Swifts players despite the fact that he was Reading captain at the time and only occasionally guested for Swifts.

There is of course no excuse at all for ignoring Johnny Holt, nor for those choosing to act like complete arseholes in this thread which was posing a perfectly legitimate question about who might be next.

Hey I never claimed to know the answer, I just argued that you couldn't just ignore someone who was posed as the answer by someone else because it was pre Reading being known as the Royals.

I very happily acknolwedge Edward Haygarth and Johnny Holt and am over the moon that we have had 3 or more players to represent our club at aninternational level for England.

Better?

[79Royal]

I've been saying all season that Shorey wil get an England call, but he'll certainly have to wait on an injury to Ashley Cole and Maybe even Wayne Bridge and Paul Konchecksy too.

But there are only four left backs in England capable of it at the moment and Shorey is one of them.

[Top Flight]

I think James Henry will be the first Royal since Herbert Smith to wear the three lions on his chest!

Or it could be Aaron Lamprrard.......

[Vision]

I think James Henry will be the first Royal since Herbert Smith to wear the three lions on his chest!
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Isnt he Scottish ?

[Ian Royal]

I think James Henry will be the first Royal since Herbert Smith to wear the three lions on his chest!
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Isnt he Scottish ?

I thought I'd read that somewhere too.

[No Hoops]

Kitson, that's why he turned down Ireland.

He'll bang in 15 by the end of the season and play in a friendly during the summer.

IMHO

[Ian Royal]

Kitson, that's why he turned down Ireland.

He'll bang in 15 by the end of the season and play in a friendly during the summer.

IMHO

Maybe, but he turned down Ireland because he isn't Irish, not to play for England. He has even publicly stated that he isn't good enough to play for England in his opinion.

[Top Flight]

To be completely honest. None of our current squad will ever wear the three lions in a full first team international!

So this thread is pretty tough because no one knows who will be playing for us in the future. Out of our current squad to select from...... As good as Shorey and Sidwell are, unfortunately they are not quite good enough to play for England. They could both get in the Andorra side but not the England side!

[Ian Royal]

To be completely honest. None of our current squad will ever wear the three lions in a full first team international!

So this thread is pretty tough because no one knows who will be playing for us in the future. Out of our current squad to select from...... As good as Shorey and Sidwell are, unfortunately they are not quite good enough to play for England. They could both get in the Andorra side but not the England side!

our squad could get in the Andorran team

[Amongst the sheep]

Of our current crop of players the best chances are
Shorey
Sidwell
Kitson
Lita

But as mentioned they will have more chances if they move to a 'larger ' club or there is a spate of injuries and they are getting a rave review each week. As it is a problem position (left side) Shorey is brightest prospect IMHO.

[URZZ]

Shorey or/and Lita...