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Re: Humble pie - one slice for everyone

by Big Ern » 20 Nov 2006 11:23

readingbedding Who slagged off S Hunt for not being a good enough footballer at this level.

Sometimes players improve and get up to speed you know.

He's not the best player in the League but he's not the worst, and he'll do a good job against most teams at most times...

Tuck in lads.

I can honestly say I have never questioned whether Hunt is good enough for this level, however, I am quite happy to do so if it means I get a slice of Pie.

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by Ian Royal » 20 Nov 2006 11:27

Convey may have looked rather unconvincing in his few apearances where he was carrying an injury, but he still managed to pick up 2 or 3 assists. He's a useful player.

Hunt is all bustle and energy without much finesse. He's a very very good squad and sub player, he'll unsettle the opposition, but he doesn't have the quality at his level to be a first choice player IMO.

Once Convey recovers and gets up to speed I think he will be well ahead of Hunt in the pecking order.

Oster is looking good but seems to be more effective through the middle from what I've been hearing.

IMO the real tough choice is who plays out of Little, Seol, Convey and Kitson when Kits and Convey are fit. You'd have to assume Doyle and Kits upfront. Little seems to be a key player in terms of our style, Seol has scored three goals and is deadly, but does go missing and loses the ball a fair bit. Convey is the left side specialist whereas Little and Seol are right siders.

that is a tough choice, but it's nice that it's one Coppell will need to make.

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Re: Humble pie - one slice for everyone

by Scarface » 20 Nov 2006 11:39

readingbedding Who slagged off S Hunt for not being a good enough footballer at this level.

Sometimes players improve and get up to speed you know.

He's not the best player in the League but he's not the worst, and he'll do a good job against most teams at most times...

Tuck in lads.


Personally I didn't agree with MOTD and other reports I read in that he was the star man. However he did have a good game apart from his crossing and Convey will need to match Hunt's 100% effort to get his place back.

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by readingbedding » 20 Nov 2006 11:47

Ole Ole Ole Ole
Ole Ole Ole Ole

Stephen Hunt Hunt Hunt

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by Big Ern » 20 Nov 2006 11:49

readingbedding Ole Ole Ole Ole
Ole Ole Ole Ole

Stephen Hunt Hunt Hunt

Enough of the chanting, wheres this slice of pie you promised? :x


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by Woodcote Royal » 20 Nov 2006 11:55

Ian Royal Convey is the left side specialist whereas Little and Seol are right siders.


Seol is totally 2 footed and has all already buried 3 impressive goals.

My money is on him making the Convey/Hunt debate redundant when Kitson returns...................he has too much quality to leave out of the side unless we are playing at places like Old Trafford and I think Coppell will decide to live with his shortcomings whilst he continues to make the impact he has.

With Seol and Little on the flanks plus Kitson and Doyle unfront, it will take a very good outfit to beat us at home and most of the big guns have already visited the Mad Stad.

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by West Stand Man » 20 Nov 2006 12:00

It would be interesting to look back at this page for Aug/Sep 05, when I am sure that I recall a similar debate going on about Kevin Doyle and whether he was ready for the CCC at that time. Oh how things change.

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by Skin » 20 Nov 2006 12:00

For someone that rec'd death threats in the same week as he played I thought he did bloody well.
With or without the death threats issue I thought he played bloody well for most of the time. He cannot play one touch football at pace, but when he gives himself a second touch he seems to be able to create in space where we need it.
I had my doubts about the lad, and even came away from the game thinking not good enough but then watching MOTD he was everywhere and very prominent in our game on Sat. Obviously there were mistakes and wild shots they didn't show, but for what he did do well made up for what he didn't and that counts for a lot in the Prem. He can only get better with experience and he gets my vote of confidence.

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by readingbedding » 20 Nov 2006 12:02

Big Ern
readingbedding Ole Ole Ole Ole
Ole Ole Ole Ole

Stephen Hunt Hunt Hunt

Enough of the chanting, wheres this slice of pie you promised? :x


Some fat bastard has eaten all of them.


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by Ian Royal » 20 Nov 2006 12:18

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Ian Royal Convey is the left side specialist whereas Little and Seol are right siders.


Seol is totally 2 footed and has all already buried 3 impressive goals.

My money is on him making the Convey/Hunt debate redundant when Kitson returns...................he has too much quality to leave out of the side unless we are playing at places like Old Trafford and I think Coppell will decide to live with his shortcomings whilst he continues to make the impact he has.

With Seol and Little on the flanks plus Kitson and Doyle unfront, it will take a very good outfit to beat us at home and most of the big guns have already visited the Mad Stad.


I did mention Seol's goals. The word I heard from Wolves though was that Seol was pretty poor when played on the left whereas it's Convey's strongest position. I'm not sure what I'd do at the moment, though I suppose any difficulty is reliant on Bobby coming back from his injury and playing to the ability we all know he can.

I think Bobby is a safer bet than Seol, though Seol is a little better attacking, I don't think it's enough to counter his defensive weaknesses. But I don't make the decisions.

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by Ian Royal » 20 Nov 2006 12:19

Skin For someone that rec'd death threats in the same week as he played I thought he did bloody well.
With or without the death threats issue I thought he played bloody well for most of the time. He cannot play one touch football at pace, but when he gives himself a second touch he seems to be able to create in space where we need it.
I had my doubts about the lad, and even came away from the game thinking not good enough but then watching MOTD he was everywhere and very prominent in our game on Sat. Obviously there were mistakes and wild shots they didn't show, but for what he did do well made up for what he didn't and that counts for a lot in the Prem. He can only get better with experience and he gets my vote of confidence.


I thought the death threats happened a while ago and the news only just broke. might explain a little some of our poorer performances recently.

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by Don Finch » 20 Nov 2006 12:20

readingbedding
Big Ern
readingbedding Ole Ole Ole Ole
Ole Ole Ole Ole

Stephen Hunt Hunt Hunt

Enough of the chanting, wheres this slice of pie you promised? :x


Some fat bastard has eaten all of them.

Show your face Andy Reid, you rotund piece of illigitamacy.

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by East Stand Royal 500 » 20 Nov 2006 12:45

MartinRdg He still needs to try and improve his first touch though. There must have been at least 4, maybe 5, moves that broke down because he mis-controlled the ball.


It was his last touches that let him down on Saturday! If they had connected properly, he could have had at least 2, possibly 3, premiership goals to his name. One exception - his last touch that created the first goal was priceless.
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by alad » 20 Nov 2006 13:01

One good game against the worst side in the league playing with zero confidence and he's suddenly better than Convey.

LOL @ readingbedding.

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by Royal Rother » 20 Nov 2006 13:05

Can you quote where he said that please?

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by readingbedding » 20 Nov 2006 13:06

alad One good game against the worst side in the league playing with zero confidence and he's suddenly better than Convey.

LOL @ readingbedding.


Typical knee-jerk rubbish reaction.

My point is about Stephen Hunt's improvement and shutting a few people up.
Not whether he's better than a injured or an in-form Convey.
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by bobby m's syrup » 20 Nov 2006 13:06

I'm not sure that Charlton are the worst side in the League. Performance wise..yes, so far, but they do have some talented and useful players. Given decent management and a reasonable run to boost confidence, they could well fare better than the likes of Sheff United.

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by readingbedding » 20 Nov 2006 13:16

bobby m's syrup I'm not sure that Charlton are the worst side in the League. Performance wise..yes, so far, but they do have some talented and useful players. Given decent management and a reasonable run to boost confidence, they could well fare better than the likes of Sheff United.


Hmm dunno about that, M Holland looks knackered, and Bent was coming back so deep so he could get involved.
No Midfield, which will kill them if they don't sort it.

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by londinium » 20 Nov 2006 13:28

Stop it the lot of you... We won, the whole team played well and Coppell is the main man regardless of what you all think about his team selection.

Moan when we lose,,, not when we win.

I haven't seen the full game yet (will take a look tonight) but from all reports and from what I have seen so far looks like Hunty had a decent enough game as he has ever since 'deputising' for Bobby.

Its funny how when we have a suposed better player (In this case Convey) not in the team for whatever reason then the player in the team gets slated as not being good enough. But when we have no better player in that particular position then the player (for instance Harper) regardless of whether he had a good game or not gets little talked about.

Hunt is industrious, hard working and at the moment sloting in nicely to a winning team.

P.S. I like Bobby but the 'he's a better crosser' arguement is very flawed, very few of his crosses are any good and I think we only scored twice from his crosses all of last year!!

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by Woodcote Royal » 20 Nov 2006 13:49

Spot on regarding your last point.

Whatever their respective strengths, neither Hunt nor Convey are consistently good crossers of the ball.....................Little and Seol are the best by a distance with Shorey a creditable third.
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