The Weakest Link costs us again

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by Boston Royal » 14 Jan 2007 16:09

Of course he's not perfect, nobody's perfect, but MH seems to be immune to the criticism (who make similar or fewer mistakes) that's levelled at some of his team mates. That was just a subset of errors off the top of my head; there may be more that led to goals and many more that could have led to goals were it not for better finishing / defensive clearances. Marcus is quite good, but doesn't walk on water and I wouldn't mind seeing competition for his place.

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by LoyalRoyal22 » 14 Jan 2007 16:10

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LoyalRoyal22 How can Hahnemann be the weakest player? Hunt played.


......and of course Hunt is rubbish and had absolutely no impact on the game, especially our goal. :roll:


Well if u think he did anything else then your a blind idiot then arnt you?

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by Royal Rother » 14 Jan 2007 16:10

Hahnemann is a decent enough 'keeper but IMHO his handling is the worst of any in the Premiership. Every game he seems to make a couple of unnecessary fumbles, and this has been going on all season, right since the opening game against 'Boro.

Shot stopping is only one facet of a 'keeper's game and his distribution, handling and command of his area have shown precious little improvement since the start of the season.

In his one appearance Federici has put some pressure on Hahnemann who, if he doesn't sharpen up a bit, might well find himself on the bench before the season is over.

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by Dirk Gently » 14 Jan 2007 16:11

Just seen Shay Given (one of the best keepers in the world) fail to hang onto a shot - just the same as every keeper seems to be doing with the new lightweight ball being used in the Premier League this year.

So should Newcastle be looking for someone better?

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by RoyalBird » 14 Jan 2007 16:11

Ian Royal As I recall virtually all of Gunny's few posts have been knee jerk pessimistic slatigs of the team and management. Hahnemann made a couple of mistakes and was punished once. His kicking got quite poor but other than that he was fine.

De La Cruz was our worst player today in my opinion and he was just on the wrong side of adequate.


Thought De La Cruz was quite solid defending today, but wasn't the attacking presence Murty can be as well. Very Frustrated with Lita's and Long's decision making but i'll still take the draw.


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by zac naloen » 14 Jan 2007 16:12

Our weak link is the defence as a team, not the Goalkeeper specifically. Sonko and Ingimarsson would be great Centre Backs but they they need someone to organise them occasionally. The occasional drop in concentration is our main downfall. It didn't show in this game as the goal was unfortunate. But Hahnemann on the whole has a good record so far.

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by Coppell's Right Footed 11 » 14 Jan 2007 16:13

Dirk Gently Just seen Shay Given (one of the best keepers in the world) fail to hang onto a shot - just the same as every keeper seems to be doing with the new lightweight ball being used in the Premier League this year.

So should Newcastle be looking for someone better?


What rubbish. Hahnemann makes them on a consistent basis. Given doesn't.

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by Ian Royal » 14 Jan 2007 16:13

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Ian Royal As I recall virtually all of Gunny's few posts have been knee jerk pessimistic slatigs of the team and management. Hahnemann made a couple of mistakes and was punished once. His kicking got quite poor but other than that he was fine.

De La Cruz was our worst player today in my opinion and he was just on the wrong side of adequate.


Thought De La Cruz was quite solid defending today, but wasn't the attacking presence Murty can be as well. Very Frustrated with Lita's and Long's decision making but i'll still take the draw.


very happy to take the draw, that goal had been coming for a while and we didn't have any real edge upfront today. Might have been an idea to bring on Bikey for Lita with 15 to go and try and shut up shop but I have few complaints about the result.

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Re: The Weakest Link costs us again

by URZZZZZZZZ » 14 Jan 2007 16:13

Gunny Fishcake Hahnemann yet again cost us valuable points , the man is a liability .His kicking is a joke , his fumbling getting worse and his abilty to command the six yard box for a man of his size is a farce . He'll do for the season but long term we need a quality keeper


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by Avon Royal » 14 Jan 2007 16:14

LoyalRoyal22 Well if u think he did anything else then your a blind idiot then arnt you?


Too easy.

you.
you're.
aren't.

Not bad for a blind idiot eh? :wink:

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by Ian Royal » 14 Jan 2007 16:15

zac naloen Our weak link is the defence as a team, not the Goalkeeper specifically. Sonko and Ingimarsson would be great Centre Backs but they they need someone to organise them occasionally. The occasional drop in concentration is our main downfall. It didn't show in this game as the goal was unfortunate. But Hahnemann on the whole has a good record so far.


I may get slated for this, but I think Ivar and Sonko's problems today came from Sonko being pulled out of position to cover DLC too often. Maybe this will improve with a few games for DLC, but I just don't feel comfortable with him in the team. I think he has the quality, but tries to hard and makes too many poor decisions.

He did better than I was expectig though

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by LoyalRoyal22 » 14 Jan 2007 16:15

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LoyalRoyal22 Well if u think he did anything else then your a blind idiot then arnt you?


Too easy.

you.
you're.
aren't.

Not bad for a blind idiot eh? :wink:


Grow up.

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by zac naloen » 14 Jan 2007 16:17

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zac naloen Our weak link is the defence as a team, not the Goalkeeper specifically. Sonko and Ingimarsson would be great Centre Backs but they they need someone to organise them occasionally. The occasional drop in concentration is our main downfall. It didn't show in this game as the goal was unfortunate. But Hahnemann on the whole has a good record so far.


I may get slated for this, but I think Ivar and Sonko's problems today came from Sonko being pulled out of position to cover DLC too often. Maybe this will improve with a few games for DLC, but I just don't feel comfortable with him in the team. I think he has the quality, but tries to hard and makes too many poor decisions.

He did better than I was expectig though


Yeh, I think i'm used to being ready to slate De La Cruz and I didn't really spot him doing anything especially wrong, but then again i'm not good at spotting tactical things like that. But then it does fall down to our defensive unit being below par for the level we want to play at. We are doing well, but it definately needs strengthening for next year.


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by Avon Royal » 14 Jan 2007 16:18

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LoyalRoyal22 Well if u think he did anything else then your a blind idiot then arnt you?


Too easy.

you.
you're.
aren't.

Not bad for a blind idiot eh? :wink:


Grow up.


Ouch. That told me. :roll:

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by Ian Royal » 14 Jan 2007 16:19

I'm willing to give DLC a chance, he was better than I thought and a lot seem to think he did well today so fair enough. We really need a commanding centreback. When Murty is missing our defence is less organised and confident.

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Re: The Weakest Link costs us again

by dennis nelson » 14 Jan 2007 16:21

Gunny Fishcake Hahnemann yet again cost us valuable points , the man is a liability .His kicking is a joke , his fumbling getting worse and his abilty to command the six yard box for a man of his size is a farce . He'll do for the season but long term we need a quality keeper

100% correct gunney, nothing more to be said

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Re: The Weakest Link costs us again

by Sharpy » 14 Jan 2007 16:21

Gunny Fishcake Hahnemann yet again cost us valuable points , the man is a liability .His kicking is a joke , his fumbling getting worse and his abilty to command the six yard box for a man of his size is a farce . He'll do for the season but long term we need a quality keeper


agreed.

also, harper useless
de la cruz was ok
lita needs to man the fcuk up and use his 'fighting mentality' on the pitch
hunt is the new hughes, does easy things bad

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by LoyalRoyal22 » 14 Jan 2007 16:22

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LoyalRoyal22 Well if u think he did anything else then your a blind idiot then arnt you?


Too easy.

you.
you're.
aren't.

Not bad for a blind idiot eh? :wink:


Grow up.


Ouch. That told me. :roll:


:cry:

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by Row Z Royal » 14 Jan 2007 16:23

Marcus does make some dodgy decisions on occasions, but what keeper doesn't? That could easily have been David James or Carlo Cudicini making that mistake.

I'm as concerned about Marcus' decisions as Sonko failing to put a boot through it enough or by Ivar's pace or by Shorey's one-footedness. (ie - not very much at all)

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Re: The Weakest Link costs us again

by Ian Royal » 14 Jan 2007 16:25

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Gunny Fishcake Hahnemann yet again cost us valuable points , the man is a liability .His kicking is a joke , his fumbling getting worse and his abilty to command the six yard box for a man of his size is a farce . He'll do for the season but long term we need a quality keeper


agreed.

also, harper useless
de la cruz was ok
lita needs to man the fcuk up and use his 'fighting mentality' on the pitch
hunt is the new hughes, does easy things bad


you're in a bad mood today...

Thought Lita did well enough in a game that didn't suit him at all. Harper was extrememly attacking and once again the game didn't suit him as we weren't putting our foot on the ball and trying to pass and retain posetion, it was just drive and lose it drive and lose it.

Hunt doesn't have the quality of many in our team but he was a massive thorn in Everton's side today and without him I'm confident they would have taken us apart.

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