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by soggy biscuit » 28 Oct 2007 09:05

weybridgewanderer press conference yesterday

"Mark McGee is a great manager, look at where Reading are now, a lot of that is down to mark McGee"


Totally agree

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by RoyalBlue » 28 Oct 2007 09:47

Personally I'd give a lot of credit to a little Geordie with a big heart who did a tremendous amount for us as a player and then helped keep the wheels on as manager during the difficult times after the FSB walked out.

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by Behindu » 28 Oct 2007 10:37

McGhee played his part but to be honest I'd probably come up with a fair few people who I'd put ahead of him

JM
Steve Coppell
Nicky Hammond
Roger Smee
Maurice Evans

as a start

I'd have to think about whether Quinn / Gooding took us forward after Mcghee or saw us slip back a bit...

In terms of football I think Coppell's title winning side was leagues ahead of McGhee's.

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by Cripple Creek » 28 Oct 2007 10:52

I'm with Gordons Cumming and Risely. I thought under McGhee Reading played the most attractive football I've ever seen from the Royals/Biscuitmen. I think providing their fitness levels were up to what current players can sustain through advances in sports science etc. (even though it wasn't that long ago) I would say that Simon Osborne and the centre back partnership of Williams and Wdobzyk (spelling?) would walk into the current team (sorry Sonks and Dubbo) along , possibly, with Micky Gooding and Archie in his prime.

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by Upper West Ginger » 28 Oct 2007 11:42

The reason why so much anger was directed towards FSB when he left us was that we recognised at the time we were losing a good manager, who had created a team playing (relatively) attractive and successful football. We didn't want him to leave, and were gutted by the manner and timing of his departure.

Of course, the success (?) we are now enjoying owes little to FSB's managerial tenure, but perhaps he should be credited with showing the football fans of Reading that there was a better way to play; he broadened our horizons, and made us hope that one day we might just reach the top tier of English football.


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by AthleticoSpizz » 28 Oct 2007 19:21

Upper West Ginger The reason why so much anger was directed towards FSB when he left us was that we recognised at the time we were losing a good manager, who had created a team playing (relatively) attractive and successful football. We didn't want him to leave, and were gutted by the manner and timing of his departure.

Of course, the success (?) we are now enjoying owes little to FSB's managerial tenure, but perhaps he should be credited with showing the football fans of Reading that there was a better way to play; he broadened our horizons, and made us hope that one day we might just reach the top tier of English football.
bang on

and the success that he brought at the time of his tenure...raised the clicks on the turnstyles..and no doubt brought a bit more disposalble £ to the club.


These were EP days remember

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by Royal With Cheese » 28 Oct 2007 20:26

Todays sucess owes ABSOLUTELY nothing to Mark McGhee.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

However, I would agree wid did play some of the most attractive football I ever saw at Elm Park under him.

The two are completely unrelated.

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by AthleticoSpizz » 28 Oct 2007 20:42

Royal With Cheese Todays sucess owes ABSOLUTELY nothing to Mark McGhee.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

However, I would agree wid did play some of the most attractive football I ever saw at Elm Park under him.

The two are completely unrelated.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING? wrong

the knock-ons that his relative success brought, helped to pay for the basics that we enjoy now.

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by fallen angel » 28 Oct 2007 20:45

Royal With Cheese Todays sucess owes ABSOLUTELY nothing to Mark McGhee.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

However, I would agree wid did play some of the most attractive football I ever saw at Elm Park under him.

The two are completely unrelated.

Complete rubbish RWC,McGhee started the belief for one thing,before him we were happy to plod along in the old third and fourth divisions.He ranks second to Coppell in the pecking order,third must be Jack Mansell


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by Royal Lady » 28 Oct 2007 20:46

Platypuss
andyblue "Schandenfreude"

Damn fine word to use regarding football . . . .


Schardenfreude is even better.
or even schadenfreude! :wink:

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by AthleticoSpizz » 28 Oct 2007 20:47

fallen angel
Royal With Cheese Todays sucess owes ABSOLUTELY nothing to Mark McGhee.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

However, I would agree wid did play some of the most attractive football I ever saw at Elm Park under him.

The two are completely unrelated.

Complete rubbish RWC,McGhee started the belief for one thing,before him we were happy to plod along in the old third and fourth divisions.He ranks second to Coppell in the pecking order,third must be Jack Mansell
Jonny Mad was had by him

but McGoo proved that better things could be achieved here

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by Handsome Man » 28 Oct 2007 20:54

Our current success started when we bought Keith Curle. He was the first hint of international quality we ever saw at Reading. Since then, there were setbacks, but it always felt as though we would get our chance in the top division.

McGhee and Pardew provided fantastic football to get us close, but only Coppell ever really looked like getting us there.

I do think we've been lucky - what fun have Coventry or Hull fans had in the same time!

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by fallen angel » 28 Oct 2007 21:03

Handsome Man Our current success started when we bought Keith Curle. He was the first hint of international quality we ever saw at Reading. Since then, there were setbacks, but it always felt as though we would get our chance in the top division.

McGhee and Pardew provided fantastic football to get us close, but only Coppell ever really looked like getting us there.

I do think we've been lucky - what fun have Coventry or Hull fans had in the same time!

The day we got relegated Curle fell to the ground crying pounding his fists into the turf.He was the best defender we ever had,thanks for reminding us of him.


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by Royal With Cheese » 28 Oct 2007 21:03

fallen angel
Royal With Cheese Todays sucess owes ABSOLUTELY nothing to Mark McGhee.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

However, I would agree wid did play some of the most attractive football I ever saw at Elm Park under him.

The two are completely unrelated.

Complete rubbish RWC,McGhee started the belief for one thing,before him we were happy to plod along in the old third and fourth divisions.He ranks second to Coppell in the pecking order,third must be Jack Mansell

Sorry, don't agree. Madejski is the key to our sucess, not any manager. Anyone who tinks otherwise is a sentimental old fool.

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by AthleticoSpizz » 28 Oct 2007 21:08

Royal With Cheese
fallen angel
Royal With Cheese Todays sucess owes ABSOLUTELY nothing to Mark McGhee.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

However, I would agree wid did play some of the most attractive football I ever saw at Elm Park under him.

The two are completely unrelated.

Complete rubbish RWC,McGhee started the belief for one thing,before him we were happy to plod along in the old third and fourth divisions.He ranks second to Coppell in the pecking order,third must be Jack Mansell

Sorry, don't agree. Madejski is the key to our sucess, not any manager. Anyone who tinks otherwise is a sentimental old fool.
yes of course

but

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING :?

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by Royal With Cheese » 28 Oct 2007 21:15

AthleticoSpizz
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Royal With Cheese Todays sucess owes ABSOLUTELY nothing to Mark McGhee.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

However, I would agree wid did play some of the most attractive football I ever saw at Elm Park under him.

The two are completely unrelated.

Complete rubbish RWC,McGhee started the belief for one thing,before him we were happy to plod along in the old third and fourth divisions.He ranks second to Coppell in the pecking order,third must be Jack Mansell

Sorry, don't agree. Madejski is the key to our sucess, not any manager. Anyone who tinks otherwise is a sentimental old fool.
yes of course

but

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING :?

About as relevant as Terry Bullivant to our current position.

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by Forbury Lion » 28 Oct 2007 22:52

Platypuss
andyblue "Schandenfreude"

Damn fine word to use regarding football . . . .


Schardenfreude is even better.
Schards#2 is even... nope, actually he isn't.

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by Barry the bird boggler » 29 Oct 2007 13:42

Gordons Cumming Apart from Jack Mansell, Reading, for me, played the best pure football under Mark McGhee.


Yes, I can recall the stories, one season of about 6 months of superb football where practically every shot went in followed by nigh on 9 months, the next season, where nothing went in unless you were the opponents which rather made the superb passing football look ever so slightly cr*p.

Anyway I disagree with Strachan, we all know Branfoot was the architect after all it was he who gave Taylor, Lovell & Williams their first professional contracts and without them McGhee would have been nowhere.

:wink:

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by comeonthebiscuitmen » 29 Oct 2007 14:16

If we hadn't won the Div 2 title in 93/94 where would we be now?

McGhee's reign was very important and as has been said above we played very attractive football under him.

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by winchester_royal » 29 Oct 2007 14:21

personally i believe that Pardew has more importance to our situation than McGhee

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