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by Readingfanman » 03 Nov 2007 23:38

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Alan Partridge Alarm bells are starting to ring tbh. If we can't beat Fulham away then it's hard to see where an away win is coming from, especially with Arsenal to come next. 3-1 is a shocking result.

Having just seen the goals, the 2nd goal is just littered with mistakes from Hunt, Shorey, Sonko and Hahnemann and is a quite frankly embarssing goal to give away. Work so hard to get back in the game and then do that is criminal.

It's easy to point the finger at the defense but when you have a midfield as oxf*rd as ours you aint gonna stop teams running through you. Leaving your defense exposed to waves of attacks.

I think it's time we went a bit old school. It's a bit harsh on Doobs who i don't think has done a great deal wrong, certainly no worse than anyone else but it's time for Murty/Rosenior - Sonko - Ivar - Shorey Got to go back to what was good for us and try it, see if it's got anything left to offer.

Time for Gunnarsson out with Fae in until we get to January and Coppell can attempt to sort out the mess he's left himself with. A 2nd record signing that can't get in the team, and time for Convey to start in place of the woeful Hunt. I'd rather doyle was up front but he's our best option on the right for now so should stay there, then Kitson with AN Other. I'd go Lita but if he goes for Long fair enough.

I personally find it embarassing that the team we have now, a year and a bit on in the Premiership is considerably weaker than the team that was playing week in week out for us in the Championship. That's where Coppell has failed in the last year or so for me. Our signings since January 06 have been quite frankly appalling.



Why is it so bad that we cant beat Fulham away?

They have only lost twice at home this year which is the same as Everton and you wouldnt expect us to win there.

They have also only lost 4 times both home and away this season which is less than any team in the bottom half.


Fulham had the worst home record in the whole division. If we cannot beat the team who has the worst home record , it is very diffucult to see where the wins will come from , agree entirely with AP.

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by weybridgewanderer » 03 Nov 2007 23:42

And the game was there for the winning, when we got back to 1-1 we had the initiative and should have gone on to win but too many decided 1-1 was ok and we lost the momentum

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by Alan Partridge » 03 Nov 2007 23:46

weybridgewanderer And the game was there for the winning, when we got back to 1-1 we had the initiative and should have gone on to win but too many decided 1-1 was ok and we lost the momentum


There has been games where we've let goals in and sometimes they are good strikes or genuinely unlucky. Pompey was littered with deflections and long shots but today, that 2nd goal is absolutely woeful at any level, nevermind from a Premiership defence.

To see up to 4 players making basic basic errors and their guy shinning it in from a yard is almost laughable.

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by Readingfanman » 03 Nov 2007 23:51

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weybridgewanderer And the game was there for the winning, when we got back to 1-1 we had the initiative and should have gone on to win but too many decided 1-1 was ok and we lost the momentum


There has been games where we've let goals in and sometimes they are good strikes or genuinely unlucky. Pompey was littered with deflections and long shots but today, that 2nd goal is absolutely woeful at any level, nevermind from a Premiership defence.

To see up to 4 players making basic basic errors and their guy shinning it in from a yard is almost laughable.

Fans team could give the Reading defence a run for their money.


Where is Murky T for some practice?

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by bcubed » 03 Nov 2007 23:54

John Peel It never ceases to amaze me how depressing this forum can be sometimes. Maybe I got caught up in the best away atmosphere for ages, but I thought we were unluckly to lose today. Niemi made at least three great saves for starters. We were let down by lapses of concentration and I admit that the centre of midfield was non-existent, but there were lots of positives to take from the game too. And today we showed we still have the stomach for a fight. Best away performance since Man U (although I know that's not saying much).

I do admit though that Shorey looks like a completely different player and his passing and positioning was sub-standard at times, but we don't have another left back. Gunnar must go to be replaced by Fae. Doyle obviously hates being put on the right so suggest putting him back up front next Monday with Kits, with Rosenoir in his place. Lita can complain all he likes but he just aint good enough at the moment. The whole team needs to work on its passing as the completion rate is worse than most.

Bottom line is that we all knew it was going to be tough this year so deal with it. Our luck is down, that's all. It's not that we're playing much worse than last year - that would be far from the truth. I can remember being a poor second to Fulham last year, and that was against ten men! West Ham away we were also lucky to win. I could go on.

And if we go down, so what. I'd rather go down than bow to the sickening demands of today's players.


This is exactly the sort of reasoned thinking that this forum can do without. We don't need this logical aproach, with an anlaysis that resembles what actually happened on the pitch.
Just stick to spouting random abuse and regale us with total pessimism and we'll all be a lot happier
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by Chaney » 03 Nov 2007 23:57

agreed..ban all commen sense posts on this board immediately

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by londinium » 04 Nov 2007 00:03

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Alan Partridge Alarm bells are starting to ring tbh. If we can't beat Fulham away then it's hard to see where an away win is coming from, especially with Arsenal to come next. 3-1 is a shocking result.

Having just seen the goals, the 2nd goal is just littered with mistakes from Hunt, Shorey, Sonko and Hahnemann and is a quite frankly embarssing goal to give away. Work so hard to get back in the game and then do that is criminal.

It's easy to point the finger at the defense but when you have a midfield as oxf*rd as ours you aint gonna stop teams running through you. Leaving your defense exposed to waves of attacks.

I think it's time we went a bit old school. It's a bit harsh on Doobs who i don't think has done a great deal wrong, certainly no worse than anyone else but it's time for Murty/Rosenior - Sonko - Ivar - Shorey Got to go back to what was good for us and try it, see if it's got anything left to offer.

Time for Gunnarsson out with Fae in until we get to January and Coppell can attempt to sort out the mess he's left himself with. A 2nd record signing that can't get in the team, and time for Convey to start in place of the woeful Hunt. I'd rather doyle was up front but he's our best option on the right for now so should stay there, then Kitson with AN Other. I'd go Lita but if he goes for Long fair enough.

I personally find it embarassing that the team we have now, a year and a bit on in the Premiership is considerably weaker than the team that was playing week in week out for us in the Championship. That's where Coppell has failed in the last year or so for me. Our signings since January 06 have been quite frankly appalling.



Why is it so bad that we cant beat Fulham away?

They have only lost twice at home this year which is the same as Everton and you wouldnt expect us to win there.

They have also only lost 4 times both home and away this season which is less than any team in the bottom half.


Fulham had the worst home record in the whole division. If we cannot beat the team who has the worst home record , it is very diffucult to see where the wins will come from , agree entirely with AP.


They have the worst home record in the division apart from Derby, Spurs, Bolton and Boro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they havent lost any more than anybody from 9th down.

I can see why people may think we should have got a point there but to suggest we should have won is a bit hopeful
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by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 04 Nov 2007 00:05

weybridgewanderer We didn't deserve to lose?

Since Kitson came back we have 1 tactic, lump the ball up the park for Kitson to flick on

The passing flowing football, ball on the deck,out wide with pace we have played the last two years has gone

we only have one fully-fit winger (albeit with convey nearly there). It's kind of hard to play a game that revolves around wingers when they aren't there.

It's got nothing to do with Kitson - after all we played "the good stuff" in our promotion season when Kitson was a key figure.


This season kind of reminds me a bit of the 2004/5 season, where coppell might have known the style he wanted to play, but didn't have the personnel to play it.

the worrying aspect of that is that in that season, coppell did tend to just plough on doing the same thing with the same players, rather than changing anything. Whether he is being too loyal to certain players, or whether those that could come in just aren't up to the job, remains to be seen.

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by Alan Partridge » 04 Nov 2007 00:05

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Alan Partridge Alarm bells are starting to ring tbh. If we can't beat Fulham away then it's hard to see where an away win is coming from, especially with Arsenal to come next. 3-1 is a shocking result.

Having just seen the goals, the 2nd goal is just littered with mistakes from Hunt, Shorey, Sonko and Hahnemann and is a quite frankly embarssing goal to give away. Work so hard to get back in the game and then do that is criminal.

It's easy to point the finger at the defense but when you have a midfield as oxf*rd as ours you aint gonna stop teams running through you. Leaving your defense exposed to waves of attacks.

I think it's time we went a bit old school. It's a bit harsh on Doobs who i don't think has done a great deal wrong, certainly no worse than anyone else but it's time for Murty/Rosenior - Sonko - Ivar - Shorey Got to go back to what was good for us and try it, see if it's got anything left to offer.

Time for Gunnarsson out with Fae in until we get to January and Coppell can attempt to sort out the mess he's left himself with. A 2nd record signing that can't get in the team, and time for Convey to start in place of the woeful Hunt. I'd rather doyle was up front but he's our best option on the right for now so should stay there, then Kitson with AN Other. I'd go Lita but if he goes for Long fair enough.

I personally find it embarassing that the team we have now, a year and a bit on in the Premiership is considerably weaker than the team that was playing week in week out for us in the Championship. That's where Coppell has failed in the last year or so for me. Our signings since January 06 have been quite frankly appalling.



Why is it so bad that we cant beat Fulham away?

They have only lost twice at home this year which is the same as Everton and you wouldnt expect us to win there.

They have also only lost 4 times both home and away this season which is less than any team in the bottom half.


Fulham had the worst home record in the whole division. If we cannot beat the team who has the worst home record , it is very diffucult to see where the wins will come from , agree entirely with AP.


They have the worst home record in the division apart from Derby, Spurs, Bolton and Boro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they havent lost any more than anybody from 9th down.

I can see why people may think we should have got a point there but to suggest we should have won is a bit hopeful


If we can't go to Fulham with hopes of winning then we are totally oxf*rd.


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by Archie's penalty » 04 Nov 2007 00:06

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Alan Partridge Alarm bells are starting to ring tbh. If we can't beat Fulham away then it's hard to see where an away win is coming from, especially with Arsenal to come next. 3-1 is a shocking result.

Having just seen the goals, the 2nd goal is just littered with mistakes from Hunt, Shorey, Sonko and Hahnemann and is a quite frankly embarssing goal to give away. Work so hard to get back in the game and then do that is criminal.

It's easy to point the finger at the defense but when you have a midfield as oxf*rd as ours you aint gonna stop teams running through you. Leaving your defense exposed to waves of attacks.

I think it's time we went a bit old school. It's a bit harsh on Doobs who i don't think has done a great deal wrong, certainly no worse than anyone else but it's time for Murty/Rosenior - Sonko - Ivar - Shorey Got to go back to what was good for us and try it, see if it's got anything left to offer.

Time for Gunnarsson out with Fae in until we get to January and Coppell can attempt to sort out the mess he's left himself with. A 2nd record signing that can't get in the team, and time for Convey to start in place of the woeful Hunt. I'd rather doyle was up front but he's our best option on the right for now so should stay there, then Kitson with AN Other. I'd go Lita but if he goes for Long fair enough.

I personally find it embarassing that the team we have now, a year and a bit on in the Premiership is considerably weaker than the team that was playing week in week out for us in the Championship. That's where Coppell has failed in the last year or so for me. Our signings since January 06 have been quite frankly appalling.



Why is it so bad that we cant beat Fulham away?

They have only lost twice at home this year which is the same as Everton and you wouldnt expect us to win there.

They have also only lost 4 times both home and away this season which is less than any team in the bottom half.


Fulham had the worst home record in the whole division. If we cannot beat the team who has the worst home record , it is very diffucult to see where the wins will come from , agree entirely with AP.


They have the worst home record in the division apart from Derby, Spurs, Bolton and Boro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they havent lost any more than anybody from 9th down.

I can see why people may think we should have got a point there but to suggest we should have won is a bit hopeful


If we can't go to Fulham with hopes of winning then we are totally oxf*rd.


Tbh AP you are going way way over the top. It's a bad result yes but we played quite well. I hate this doom-mongering. We will be fine.
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by londinium » 04 Nov 2007 00:07

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Alan Partridge Alarm bells are starting to ring tbh. If we can't beat Fulham away then it's hard to see where an away win is coming from, especially with Arsenal to come next. 3-1 is a shocking result.

Having just seen the goals, the 2nd goal is just littered with mistakes from Hunt, Shorey, Sonko and Hahnemann and is a quite frankly embarssing goal to give away. Work so hard to get back in the game and then do that is criminal.

It's easy to point the finger at the defense but when you have a midfield as oxf*rd as ours you aint gonna stop teams running through you. Leaving your defense exposed to waves of attacks.

I think it's time we went a bit old school. It's a bit harsh on Doobs who i don't think has done a great deal wrong, certainly no worse than anyone else but it's time for Murty/Rosenior - Sonko - Ivar - Shorey Got to go back to what was good for us and try it, see if it's got anything left to offer.

Time for Gunnarsson out with Fae in until we get to January and Coppell can attempt to sort out the mess he's left himself with. A 2nd record signing that can't get in the team, and time for Convey to start in place of the woeful Hunt. I'd rather doyle was up front but he's our best option on the right for now so should stay there, then Kitson with AN Other. I'd go Lita but if he goes for Long fair enough.

I personally find it embarassing that the team we have now, a year and a bit on in the Premiership is considerably weaker than the team that was playing week in week out for us in the Championship. That's where Coppell has failed in the last year or so for me. Our signings since January 06 have been quite frankly appalling.



Why is it so bad that we cant beat Fulham away?

They have only lost twice at home this year which is the same as Everton and you wouldnt expect us to win there.

They have also only lost 4 times both home and away this season which is less than any team in the bottom half.


Fulham had the worst home record in the whole division. If we cannot beat the team who has the worst home record , it is very diffucult to see where the wins will come from , agree entirely with AP.


They have the worst home record in the division apart from Derby, Spurs, Bolton and Boro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they havent lost any more than anybody from 9th down.

I can see why people may think we should have got a point there but to suggest we should have won is a bit hopeful


If we can't go to Fulham with hopes of winning then we are totally oxf*rd.


So we are totally fukced then,,, I will see your miserable face back in the championship then.

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by Alan Partridge » 04 Nov 2007 00:07

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weybridgewanderer We didn't deserve to lose?

Since Kitson came back we have 1 tactic, lump the ball up the park for Kitson to flick on

The passing flowing football, ball on the deck,out wide with pace we have played the last two years has gone

we only have one fully-fit winger (albeit with convey nearly there). It's kind of hard to play a game that revolves around wingers when they aren't there.

It's got nothing to do with Kitson - after all we played "the good stuff" in our promotion season when Kitson was a key figure.


This season kind of reminds me a bit of the 2004/5 season, where coppell might have known the style he wanted to play, but didn't have the personnel to play it.

the worrying aspect of that is that in that season, coppell did tend to just plough on doing the same thing with the same players, rather than changing anything. Whether he is being too loyal to certain players, or whether those that could come in just aren't up to the job, remains to be seen.


I think that's a key point in which both bits of your point are in my opinion correct.

He's too loyal to certain members

and

the other players (that he has bought) aint good enough to come in.

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Alan Partridge Alarm bells are starting to ring tbh. If we can't beat Fulham away then it's hard to see where an away win is coming from, especially with Arsenal to come next. 3-1 is a shocking result.

Having just seen the goals, the 2nd goal is just littered with mistakes from Hunt, Shorey, Sonko and Hahnemann and is a quite frankly embarssing goal to give away. Work so hard to get back in the game and then do that is criminal.

It's easy to point the finger at the defense but when you have a midfield as oxf*rd as ours you aint gonna stop teams running through you. Leaving your defense exposed to waves of attacks.

I think it's time we went a bit old school. It's a bit harsh on Doobs who i don't think has done a great deal wrong, certainly no worse than anyone else but it's time for Murty/Rosenior - Sonko - Ivar - Shorey Got to go back to what was good for us and try it, see if it's got anything left to offer.

Time for Gunnarsson out with Fae in until we get to January and Coppell can attempt to sort out the mess he's left himself with. A 2nd record signing that can't get in the team, and time for Convey to start in place of the woeful Hunt. I'd rather doyle was up front but he's our best option on the right for now so should stay there, then Kitson with AN Other. I'd go Lita but if he goes for Long fair enough.

I personally find it embarassing that the team we have now, a year and a bit on in the Premiership is considerably weaker than the team that was playing week in week out for us in the Championship. That's where Coppell has failed in the last year or so for me. Our signings since January 06 have been quite frankly appalling.



Why is it so bad that we cant beat Fulham away?

They have only lost twice at home this year which is the same as Everton and you wouldnt expect us to win there.

They have also only lost 4 times both home and away this season which is less than any team in the bottom half.


Fulham had the worst home record in the whole division. If we cannot beat the team who has the worst home record , it is very diffucult to see where the wins will come from , agree entirely with AP.


They have the worst home record in the division apart from Derby, Spurs, Bolton and Boro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they havent lost any more than anybody from 9th down.

I can see why people may think we should have got a point there but to suggest we should have won is a bit hopeful


If we can't go to Fulham with hopes of winning then we are totally oxf*rd.


Tbh AP you are going way way over the top. It's a bad result yes but we played quite well. I hate this doom-mongering. We will be fine.


Any team in this divison that goes to Fulham has to go with an intention of winning, to say we shouldn't expect to be able to win there is wrong.


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Alan Partridge Alarm bells are starting to ring tbh. If we can't beat Fulham away then it's hard to see where an away win is coming from, especially with Arsenal to come next. 3-1 is a shocking result.

Having just seen the goals, the 2nd goal is just littered with mistakes from Hunt, Shorey, Sonko and Hahnemann and is a quite frankly embarssing goal to give away. Work so hard to get back in the game and then do that is criminal.

It's easy to point the finger at the defense but when you have a midfield as oxf*rd as ours you aint gonna stop teams running through you. Leaving your defense exposed to waves of attacks.

I think it's time we went a bit old school. It's a bit harsh on Doobs who i don't think has done a great deal wrong, certainly no worse than anyone else but it's time for Murty/Rosenior - Sonko - Ivar - Shorey Got to go back to what was good for us and try it, see if it's got anything left to offer.

Time for Gunnarsson out with Fae in until we get to January and Coppell can attempt to sort out the mess he's left himself with. A 2nd record signing that can't get in the team, and time for Convey to start in place of the woeful Hunt. I'd rather doyle was up front but he's our best option on the right for now so should stay there, then Kitson with AN Other. I'd go Lita but if he goes for Long fair enough.

I personally find it embarassing that the team we have now, a year and a bit on in the Premiership is considerably weaker than the team that was playing week in week out for us in the Championship. That's where Coppell has failed in the last year or so for me. Our signings since January 06 have been quite frankly appalling.



Why is it so bad that we cant beat Fulham away?

They have only lost twice at home this year which is the same as Everton and you wouldnt expect us to win there.

They have also only lost 4 times both home and away this season which is less than any team in the bottom half.


Fulham had the worst home record in the whole division. If we cannot beat the team who has the worst home record , it is very diffucult to see where the wins will come from , agree entirely with AP.


They have the worst home record in the division apart from Derby, Spurs, Bolton and Boro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they havent lost any more than anybody from 9th down.

I can see why people may think we should have got a point there but to suggest we should have won is a bit hopeful


If we can't go to Fulham with hopes of winning then we are totally oxf*rd.


So we are totally fukced then,,, I will see your miserable face back in the championship then.


Londinium I totally agree with your attitude about the game and how we are doing. AP I am ashamed at the over the top attitude you are putting across...

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by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 04 Nov 2007 00:09

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Alan Partridge Alarm bells are starting to ring tbh. If we can't beat Fulham away then it's hard to see where an away win is coming from, especially with Arsenal to come next. 3-1 is a shocking result.

Having just seen the goals, the 2nd goal is just littered with mistakes from Hunt, Shorey, Sonko and Hahnemann and is a quite frankly embarssing goal to give away. Work so hard to get back in the game and then do that is criminal.

It's easy to point the finger at the defense but when you have a midfield as oxf*rd as ours you aint gonna stop teams running through you. Leaving your defense exposed to waves of attacks.

I think it's time we went a bit old school. It's a bit harsh on Doobs who i don't think has done a great deal wrong, certainly no worse than anyone else but it's time for Murty/Rosenior - Sonko - Ivar - Shorey Got to go back to what was good for us and try it, see if it's got anything left to offer.

Time for Gunnarsson out with Fae in until we get to January and Coppell can attempt to sort out the mess he's left himself with. A 2nd record signing that can't get in the team, and time for Convey to start in place of the woeful Hunt. I'd rather doyle was up front but he's our best option on the right for now so should stay there, then Kitson with AN Other. I'd go Lita but if he goes for Long fair enough.

I personally find it embarassing that the team we have now, a year and a bit on in the Premiership is considerably weaker than the team that was playing week in week out for us in the Championship. That's where Coppell has failed in the last year or so for me. Our signings since January 06 have been quite frankly appalling.



Why is it so bad that we cant beat Fulham away?

They have only lost twice at home this year which is the same as Everton and you wouldnt expect us to win there.

They have also only lost 4 times both home and away this season which is less than any team in the bottom half.


Fulham had the worst home record in the whole division. If we cannot beat the team who has the worst home record , it is very diffucult to see where the wins will come from , agree entirely with AP.


They have the worst home record in the division apart from Derby, Spurs, Bolton and Boro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they havent lost any more than anybody from 9th down.

I can see why people may think we should have got a point there but to suggest we should have won is a bit hopeful

I agree that people should be saying "It's fulham - we should have won", but we should have won because fulham were crap, we dominated possession, spending most of the game camped in their half, and the game was there for the taking.

Unfortunately we created almost nothing and kept giving the ball away cheaply.

When a team as low on confidence and playing badly as Fulham today can whack three past us, what Arsenal will do next Monday isn't something I want to think about.

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Alan Partridge Alarm bells are starting to ring tbh. If we can't beat Fulham away then it's hard to see where an away win is coming from, especially with Arsenal to come next. 3-1 is a shocking result.

Having just seen the goals, the 2nd goal is just littered with mistakes from Hunt, Shorey, Sonko and Hahnemann and is a quite frankly embarssing goal to give away. Work so hard to get back in the game and then do that is criminal.

It's easy to point the finger at the defense but when you have a midfield as oxf*rd as ours you aint gonna stop teams running through you. Leaving your defense exposed to waves of attacks.

I think it's time we went a bit old school. It's a bit harsh on Doobs who i don't think has done a great deal wrong, certainly no worse than anyone else but it's time for Murty/Rosenior - Sonko - Ivar - Shorey Got to go back to what was good for us and try it, see if it's got anything left to offer.

Time for Gunnarsson out with Fae in until we get to January and Coppell can attempt to sort out the mess he's left himself with. A 2nd record signing that can't get in the team, and time for Convey to start in place of the woeful Hunt. I'd rather doyle was up front but he's our best option on the right for now so should stay there, then Kitson with AN Other. I'd go Lita but if he goes for Long fair enough.

I personally find it embarassing that the team we have now, a year and a bit on in the Premiership is considerably weaker than the team that was playing week in week out for us in the Championship. That's where Coppell has failed in the last year or so for me. Our signings since January 06 have been quite frankly appalling.



Why is it so bad that we cant beat Fulham away?

They have only lost twice at home this year which is the same as Everton and you wouldnt expect us to win there.

They have also only lost 4 times both home and away this season which is less than any team in the bottom half.


Fulham had the worst home record in the whole division. If we cannot beat the team who has the worst home record , it is very diffucult to see where the wins will come from , agree entirely with AP.


They have the worst home record in the division apart from Derby, Spurs, Bolton and Boro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they havent lost any more than anybody from 9th down.

I can see why people may think we should have got a point there but to suggest we should have won is a bit hopeful


If we can't go to Fulham with hopes of winning then we are totally oxf*rd.


So we are totally fukced then,,, I will see your miserable face back in the championship then.


Londinium I totally agree with your attitude about the game and how we are doing. AP I am ashamed at the over the top attitude you are putting across...


What are you on??

all I'm saying is that Reading or any other team in this league will look at Fulham and think it's a great chance to win.

a 3-1 defeat at a team that has won once all season is not a good result at all.

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by Archie's penalty » 04 Nov 2007 00:12

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Alan Partridge Alarm bells are starting to ring tbh. If we can't beat Fulham away then it's hard to see where an away win is coming from, especially with Arsenal to come next. 3-1 is a shocking result.

Having just seen the goals, the 2nd goal is just littered with mistakes from Hunt, Shorey, Sonko and Hahnemann and is a quite frankly embarssing goal to give away. Work so hard to get back in the game and then do that is criminal.

It's easy to point the finger at the defense but when you have a midfield as oxf*rd as ours you aint gonna stop teams running through you. Leaving your defense exposed to waves of attacks.

I think it's time we went a bit old school. It's a bit harsh on Doobs who i don't think has done a great deal wrong, certainly no worse than anyone else but it's time for Murty/Rosenior - Sonko - Ivar - Shorey Got to go back to what was good for us and try it, see if it's got anything left to offer.

Time for Gunnarsson out with Fae in until we get to January and Coppell can attempt to sort out the mess he's left himself with. A 2nd record signing that can't get in the team, and time for Convey to start in place of the woeful Hunt. I'd rather doyle was up front but he's our best option on the right for now so should stay there, then Kitson with AN Other. I'd go Lita but if he goes for Long fair enough.

I personally find it embarassing that the team we have now, a year and a bit on in the Premiership is considerably weaker than the team that was playing week in week out for us in the Championship. That's where Coppell has failed in the last year or so for me. Our signings since January 06 have been quite frankly appalling.



Why is it so bad that we cant beat Fulham away?

They have only lost twice at home this year which is the same as Everton and you wouldnt expect us to win there.

They have also only lost 4 times both home and away this season which is less than any team in the bottom half.


Fulham had the worst home record in the whole division. If we cannot beat the team who has the worst home record , it is very diffucult to see where the wins will come from , agree entirely with AP.


They have the worst home record in the division apart from Derby, Spurs, Bolton and Boro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they havent lost any more than anybody from 9th down.

I can see why people may think we should have got a point there but to suggest we should have won is a bit hopeful


If we can't go to Fulham with hopes of winning then we are totally oxf*rd.


Tbh AP you are going way way over the top. It's a bad result yes but we played quite well. I hate this doom-mongering. We will be fine.


Any team in this divison that goes to Fulham has to go with an intention of winning, to say we shouldn't expect to be able to win there is wrong.


Yes we went there with the intention of winning and we f*cked up. It's annoying but that's football. The only person who needs replacing is Gunnarsson and maybe Murty. The rest of the team is doing ok. Oh yeah Doyle should be playing up front.

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by Readingfanman » 04 Nov 2007 00:30

a 3-1 defeat at a team that has won once all season is not a good result at all.



Sums it all up.

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by floyd__streete » 04 Nov 2007 00:35

Archie's penalty AP I am ashamed at the over the top attitude you are putting across...


You patronising b@stard.

In the real world we have just lost our 5th consecutive away game, conceding an embarassing 19 goals in the process. The home form is keeping us just out of the brown stuff.....but we have Arsenal and Liverpool in the next 3 home games.

Still, keep a stiff upper lip and all that :roll:

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by Archie's penalty » 04 Nov 2007 01:50

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Archie's penalty AP I am ashamed at the over the top attitude you are putting across...


You patronising b@stard.

In the real world we have just lost our 5th consecutive away game, conceding an embarassing 19 goals in the process. The home form is keeping us just out of the brown stuff.....but we have Arsenal and Liverpool in the next 3 home games.

Still, keep a stiff upper lip and all that :roll:


Do you want to trade insults? I just think that we should maintain a sense of decorum. Or do you want to stick all Reading fans who are the teensiest bit positive in a ghetto? Have a think about it.

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