Hammond telling porkies?

[georgerob]

why arn't people praising hammond for the good work he has done in the deal with kitson, and the part in getting the club in the premiership with the transfers and deals in which he has done . what if kitson was actually ill and couldn't play, and who cares he didnt say there was a sell on clause to Cambridge in the deal for kitson, and the Cambridge chairman reflects there was. Hammond does well at what he does and so do all of the rest of board, the only one you can really critisize is Coppell as he is in charge of the team, and its his decisions on the transfer dealings the club do.
The fans need to get behind and support everyone at rfc not critisize them and slag them off!!

[Royal Lady]

To be fair, some quote I saw a few days ago said that "Kitson had rung in and said he had a cold" and Coppell had said they'd told him to stay home as they didn't want the rest of them catching the sniffles or something. Kitson could have told them he had a cold, except he didn't really. Or he could actually have had a cold, having a cold won't stop you going for an interview if you really want a job, nor will it make you fail a medical.

[Millsy]

LOL @ the fickleness of Reading fans!

Including me at one point.

We used to harp on about how rubbish Hammond was, me included.

Then we all started saying how amazing he is for getting Convey etc etc and the "Squeaky One" could do no wrong, me included.

And now we're back down he's the scapegoat again... this time you can leave me out of this fickle rubbish.

Hammond probably does a good job and we can't go blaming him when things go tits up and praising him OTT when things go super-well. He does all the donkey work and it's likely he actually does a fairly good job or Madesjki would've got rid of the guy ages ago. Madejski may know nothing about football but he certainly is no fool when it comes to building a successful business team.

[friday fan]

One thing for sure - Hammond wouldn't get through the first round of the apprentice - Alan Sugar would have sacked him years ago, put the guy out of his misery and let him go and if we are not top 4 in November, Coppell can go too!

[Royal Lady]

You said that on another thread too. Who do you want to have as Manager and Director of Football then? come on, you must have some idea of who you want? Or would you still moan whoever was in charge here?

[friday fan]

Royal Lady

Who says we need a director of football as Coppell has over 20 years of manaegrial experience to deal with this type of work. Hammond is an ex second rate goalkeeper with no director of football experience elswhere. Newcastle appointe Dennis Wise as DOF and I can agree with that but not Hammond.

With all due respect and I am going to say this - whilst I accept you as a fan, women in general are not as fanatic as men - football is our life and yours have priorittes elsewhere before football, see honesty to which I willbe chatised over.

[Royal Lady]

Royal Lady

Who says we need a director of football as Coppell has over 20 years of manaegrial experience to deal with this type of work. Hammond is an ex second rate goalkeeper with no director of football experience elswhere. Newcastle appointe Dennis Wise as DOF and I can agree with that but not Hammond.

With all due respect and I am going to say this - whilst I accept you as a fan, women in general are not as fanatic as men - football is our life and yours have priorittes elsewhere before football, see honesty to which I willbe chatised over.

I've been a fanatic of RFC for 28 years - I know Reading players personally, past and present. Just so you know like. Do you have a wife? If so, I feel dreadfully sorry for her.

As for Dennis Wise - how can you agree with him being DOF? He has no past qualifications or experience in that line of work and has never even played for Newcastle. At least Hammond knows the set up at RFC very well and has an affinity with the club.

[friday fan]

Royal Lady - stick to what you know best = washing dishes, making beds etc leave the footbal to us kowledgeable ones by the way Dennis Wise has played at the top level ex England international, managed a few teams as well - Has Hammond done that = NO

By the way I stood on the teraces at Ep since 1965 so I have seen a bit of RFC and yes have also had connections with players but find that irelevant.

[Royal Lady]

If you're as old as you make out then you really really should be ashamed of yourself!

I only mentioned knowing players etc to point out to you that I actually know a little of what goes on/has gone on behind the scenes at RFC - so I do actually know what I'm talking about a lot of the time. Please remember that women now have the vote and are seen as equals to men in many areas, including football discussion boards. Cheers then.

[friday fan]

Royal Lady - I don't question views but when you come out of the blocks like you did your mouth seem to be engaged before your brain. Your view is your view I accept that and might not agree with it but do not ever put me down as lady or man I will bite back OK?

[Southbank Old Boy]

Royal Lady

Who says we need a director of football as Coppell has over 20 years of manaegrial experience to deal with this type of work. Hammond is an ex second rate goalkeeper with no director of football experience elswhere. Newcastle appointe Dennis Wise as DOF and I can agree with that but not Hammond.

That's a classic friday, well done.

You do realise that Hammond was just given the DoF job don't you?

He progressed from player to coach. From coach to director of the academy, and from there to DoF because he was good at what he was doing and showed the right qualities to become a DoF.

Amogst all the things that puzzle me with RFC Hammond, and our take on the DoF role, is one thing I'm pretty happy with.

[Royal Lady]

Royal Lady - I don't question views but when you come out of the blocks like you did your mouth seem to be engaged before your brain. Your view is your view I accept that and might not agree with it but do not ever put me down as lady or man I will bite back OK?

I merely reminded you that you have said about Hammond and Coppell on a number of threads now. I asked you who you would replace them with. Pre-pubescent boys on here trying to give it the big I am, I can just about tolerate, grown men who should know better, I won't tolerate.

[RoyalBlue]

To be fair, some quote I saw a few days ago said that "Kitson had rung in and said he had a cold" and Coppell had said they'd told him to stay home as they didn't want the rest of them catching the sniffles or something. Kitson could have told them he had a cold, except he didn't really. Or he could actually have had a cold, having a cold won't stop you going for an interview if you really want a job, nor will it make you fail a medical.

Come off it! RFC were fully aware that both they and Kitson were in the final stages of negotiations with Stoke and, by the sound of it RFC with Cambridge United. Having a cold doesn't stop a fit footballer playing football either.

Interesting that we've got to the premiership under Hammond, Coppell and Madejski and yet none of them know what they are doing and are holding the club back.

Did you all really think that once we were there that we'd stay there for decades? Or that it would just be a bit of a hard slog but mid table or better would keep happening? The first set of problems and it's whining about how crap the people in charge are.

Half of you were about ready to annoint Madejski and Coppell as Gods a year ago. The fickle over reactions and vitriolic propaganda spouted on here by some sickens me.

And perhaps your idol Mr Madjeski might have got a little less stick if he hadn't mouthed off so much about our PL ambitions, the fact that fans were paying more to 'enable the club to compete effectively at that level', that we intended to be around for some time at that level, give it our best shot at staying up etc.etc. He spectacularly failed to walk the talk, and there doesn't appear to be much walking now we are back in the Championship either!

[Royal Lady]

I suppose it does if you don't want everyone to catch it. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but I doubt we'll ever know the truth.

[RoyalBlue]

I suppose it does if you don't want everyone to catch it. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but I doubt we'll ever know the truth.

I know you are, but I would also argue that highly fit professional footballers on excellent diets aren't that likely to catch a summer cold from Kitson either!

[Royal Lady]

Yeah. You're right. No one will ever apologise for duping us though. Makes you wonder what else we've been lied to about? Oh.

[Arch]

I suppose it does if you don't want everyone to catch it. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but I doubt we'll ever know the truth.

This is really the point isn't it. If you want to, you can insist the club is lying about all sorts of things, but in reality there's no hard evidence. People who jump on the lying bandwagon are simply showing their colours and no more. It doesn't add up to an argument. In fact the vast majority of what passes for discussion on this board these days is basically tribal posturing.

[Sarah Star]

Maybe Kitson rang in to say he had cold feet?

[Platypuss]

I suppose it does if you don't want everyone to catch it. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but I doubt we'll ever know the truth.

This is really the point isn't it. If you want to, you can insist the club is lying about all sorts of things, but in reality there's no hard evidence. People who jump on the lying bandwagon are simply showing their colours and no more. It doesn't add up to an argument. In fact the vast majority of what passes for discussion on this board these days is basically tribal posturing.

Seeing as how it has been established that the club did a deal with Cambridge earlier in the week, and that they must have given Stoke permission to talk to DK, it does stretch incredulity rather a bit too much to suggest they were completely in the dark at the time of snifflegate.

[earleyroyal]

leave the footbal to us kowledgeable ones

This is surely a wind up.