4 home-grown's in match day squads

[gazzer, loyal royal]

thanks +1

[The Cube]

I would prefer to see a requirement for at least 4 English players in the squad (I don't mean British as we are an English league club), regardless of age.

That's breaking EU law.

:lol: at strap. I went through this yesterday for somebody, and now one of the users who should be aware of the in's and out's of this messes up.

Even if they did some to some agreement re: nationality, what would they do with youngsters from Cardiff, Swansea and Wrexham?

Or can we just kick them out of our league? :lol: :lol:

I assume that "domestic" will mean "within the English pyramid system". So Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham, Newport, Colwyn Bay, Myrthyr, (others?) would count as domestic, whilst Bangor City, TNS, Rhyl, etc. would not. That would be consistent with the international clearance issue.

I did check out a few websites looking for details of the proposals, but I've been unable to find any clarification on lots of issues. Such as:

"Three seasons before 21st birthday" - does that mean complete seasons or partial seasons? Do they have to be consecutive?
Why doesn't it just say "registered at 18"? If you're 19 and have been here for two years, does that mean you don't count as home-grown because the three seasons aren't up?
The FL say that their rule is based on UEFA's idea, so if it is adopted in other leagues what happens to someone like Fabregas? 8 years or whatever in Spain followed by four at Arsenal could mean that he counts as home grown in both.
What about if you were at Gretna and aged 19 when they swapped from the English pyramid to the Scottish?
Or if you're a born-and-bred Geordie getting your dream move to Newcastle (probably in the Football League...) but now count as not home-grown because your youth football was at Berwick?

And there are many more areas of doubt and uncertainty.

[Skyline]

This thread on GF discusses this rule. Don't know how accurate the following quote from the original BBC report referenced on there is, but it does seem to cover some of the questions Cube raises:

A player would be deemed "home grown" if he is registered for three entire seasons (or 36 months) prior to turning 21 with a club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales.

[SCIAG]

I assume that "domestic" will mean "within the English pyramid system". So Cardiff, Swansea, Wrexham, Newport, Colwyn Bay, Myrthyr, (others?) would count as domestic, whilst Bangor City, TNS, Rhyl, etc. would not. That would be consistent with the international clearance issue.
Correct

I did check out a few websites looking for details of the proposals, but I've been unable to find any clarification on lots of issues. Such as:

"Three seasons before 21st birthday" - does that mean complete seasons or partial seasons? Do they have to be consecutive? Complete, but I believe 2 halves would count as one (eg if they signed in January then they'd count exactly three years later). I'm not sure on this one.
Why doesn't it just say "registered at 18"? If you're 19 and have been here for two years, does that mean you don't count as home-grown because the three seasons aren't up? I believe so.
The FL say that their rule is based on UEFA's idea, so if it is adopted in other leagues what happens to someone like Fabregas? 8 years or whatever in Spain followed by four at Arsenal could mean that he counts as home grown in both.He'd count for both, and both Barcelona and Arsenal can count him in European competitions
What about if you were at Gretna and aged 19 when they swapped from the English pyramid to the Scottish? You'd probably count for Gretna in Scotland as well as the whole of England, I don't think there's been any clarification on such a matter though.
Or if you're a born-and-bred Geordie getting your dream move to Newcastle (probably in the Football League...) but now count as not home-grown because your youth football was at Berwick? Tough cookie

And there are many more areas of doubt and uncertainty.

Also, Brazilians and Belgians can only count if they are registered on their 18th birthday (so Fabio and Rafael count).

[strap]

Based on the definitiion below,

A player would be deemed "home grown" if he is registered for three entire seasons (or 36 months) prior to turning 21 with a club affiliated to the Football Association or the Football Association of Wales.

then my list is b**l*cks as Wycombe rightly points out.

Strap has it cokpletely wrong. We had 7 or 8 players in last weekends squad that qualify under this rule, including Stephen Hunt.

In my defence, I did try to qualify my list by querying what "registered domestically meant".

This list makes a lot more sense:

Strap has it cokpletely wrong. We had 7 or 8 players in last weekends squad that qualify under this rule, including Stephen Hunt.

Yeah.....

Rosenior
Duberry
Armstrong
Henry
Harper
S Hunt
Kelly
McCarthy

It also indicates just what a loose rule this turns out to be, and as Mike Newell (Grimsby) suggests is little more than window dressing. It looks as though the vast majority of FL clubs already effectively comply with the new rule, so what exactly is the benefit to "home grown", (and by that I mean players qualified to play for the Home Nations), players?

I suspect this may just be the start of a much longer process that will end up at some indeterminate time in the future with a rule about numbers of "home nation" players in squads.