Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

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Re: Not Hard to see any progress for the forseeable future

by Ian Royal » 29 Jan 2009 12:32

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Re: Not Hard to see any progress for the forseeable future

by seahawk10 » 29 Jan 2009 17:03

bigshaka'away' i agree but i hate the bloody double negative headline for the thread.


I meant to edit it as well but forgot beofre posting.

If a Mod is reading this, please remove the word 'any' from the subject.

It should read:

Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

Thank you.

*EDIT: I just changed it myself, I didn't realise you could do that. Cheers!

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by Gus the teenage cow » 29 Jan 2009 17:07

good thread this

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by TNR » 29 Jan 2009 17:14

Gus the teenage cow good thread this

It isn't now.




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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by Schards#2 » 31 Jan 2009 21:11

I'm sure from a few thousand miles away today's effort was entertaining and inspiring, however, from 6 yards away it was dull, uninspiring and woeful as have been many recent games.

The only reason we are second is because everyone else in this division is even worse. We are a poor team, far worse than the 106 side, far worse than the side that finished 8th in the prem and worse than the one that got relegated.

Progress? Maybe from the other side of an ocean, but not in the flesh i'm afraid.


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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by AthleticoSpizz » 31 Jan 2009 21:37

Schards#2 The only reason we are second is because everyone else in this division is even worse. We are a poor team, far worse than the 106 side, far worse than the side that finished 8th in the prem and worse than the one that got relegated.
and that is an obvious fact, that only an imbecile couldn't see.

However, the Prem has become a lol lottery this season too..........littered with players (not good enough) who will be begging to play for the likes of us next season.

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by Rex » 31 Jan 2009 21:39

Why would we want players 'not good enough' playing for us next season. :roll:

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by AthleticoSpizz » 31 Jan 2009 21:45

royalexile Why would we want players 'not good enough' playing for us next season. :roll:
yes...what's the question :?: ........ you pudding

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by Rex » 31 Jan 2009 21:48

Put it with your statement and put two and two together.


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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by AthleticoSpizz » 31 Jan 2009 21:51

I think that the "lol" preceeded the "lottery"

Good grief :roll:

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by Rex » 31 Jan 2009 22:06

Yep understood that. Still do not understand the reasoning behind an under performing premiership player begging to play for us next season. The premiership seperates the wheat from the chaff, as a team we are aiming to push forwards not go backwards. Therefore why accept less. Oh and the LOL also applied to us last season. Please feel free to expand on your rationale as this is a discussion board.

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by Hampshire Royal » 31 Jan 2009 22:08

So we're second because everyone else is worse than us? Bit like 2005/06 - everyone else was worse than us then too.

Brilliant, Schards!! (Nice to see that you're saying we're going up, rather than doomed to mid-table obscurity. God loves a sinner who repents. :lol:

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by AthleticoSpizz » 31 Jan 2009 22:15

royalexile Yep understood that. Still do not understand the reasoning behind an under performing premiership player begging to play for us next season. The premiership seperates the wheat from the chaff, as a team we are aiming to push forwards not go backwards. Therefore why accept less. Oh and the LOL also applied to us last season. Please feel free to expand on your rationale as this is a discussion board.
ok (unless we spare the boredom for the other poor souls on here, and do it on PM maybe?)

However,


There are a lot of teams in the relegation mix right now whose players command big wages.

Next season, they may be made redundant/or sold on/ or whatever.

They (who are not good enough to keep their existing team up) will be looking to stay well paid and on "Match of the Day" each week.


Our current team is NOT Premier sustainable


Therefore....and laughably, we (RFC) could fall prey to some of their demands.


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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by Rex » 31 Jan 2009 22:29

I agree with some of the points made there. It does totally depend on a revisionist attitude by JM and the next manager though. We need a huge cash injection in this club which i hope JM has already put by. Certain players within our team have the premier experience (good or bad) and this is still dependant on us reaching the premier. I am still of the opinion that IF we go up the team needs stripping down, new blood bought in gradually and again blending the team to reach a level where we can stay in the premier and build on it.

This season we will be losing Harps and Shunt, and we might still have enough to get up this season. It's already been mentioned that the team might not be experienced or strong enough tactically to deal with certain teams within the Premiership, but the blend of experience, pay structure and imported players next season could be telling. I still expect caution which is not always a bad ethic to have.

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by Ian Royal » 31 Jan 2009 22:31

Schards#2 We are a poor team, far worse than the 106 side, far worse than the side that finished 8th in the prem and worse than the one that got relegated.

Progress? Maybe from the other side of an ocean, but not in the flesh i'm afraid.


You'd have to be a dribbling imbecile to think that there was any chance of us being better than those two seasons.

Whether we are worse than when we got relegated is open to debate. We've lost some talent, we've gained some talent and we're still developing. I'd certainly say we were better, we wouldn't be 2nd if we weren't.

And LOL at excusing our position by saying the rest of the division is so rubbish. Talk about desperate for excuses to stop yourself looking stupid.

You appear to have a real problem Schards. We've not been excellent recently, but we've certainly put in some fairly decent performances. And lest not forget in our knee jerk draw reactionsim that QPR were one of the three form teams in the division and we got a draw at their place.

Now I can't comment too, much, not having seen the chances, but it certainly sounded like we had ample opportunities to take the lead and it just didn't quite come off. 2 pen shouts, a post, etc etc.

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by Ian Royal » 31 Jan 2009 22:36

royalexile I agree with some of the points made there. It does totally depend on a revisionist attitude by JM and the next manager though. We need a huge cash injection in this club which i hope JM has already put by. Certain players within our team have the premier experience (good or bad) and this is still dependant on us reaching the premier. I am still of the opinion that IF we go up the team needs stripping down, new blood bought in gradually and again blending the team to reach a level where we can stay in the premier and build on it.

This season we will be losing Harps and Shunt, and we might still have enough to get up this season. It's already been mentioned that the team might not be experienced or strong enough tactically to deal with certain teams within the Premiership, but the blend of experience, pay structure and imported players next season could be telling. I still expect caution which is not always a bad ethic to have.


When is that happening exactly? They both played today, there not going anywhere until the summer and we're looking good to go up. In which case Harper will certainly stay unless we want rid, and Hunt probably will.

If we don't go up, then Harps, Hunt and Doyle will almost certainly leave. It might put promotion on hold for a few years, but we're unlikly to sink into a further relegation, so it'll just be a few seasons of rebuilding to try another push.

For those of us with short memories, or a lack of braincells. Sustained mid-table Championship football, IS progress for our club.

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by Rex » 31 Jan 2009 22:56

I think we've moved on a tad from mid table championship now TBH.

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by Royal With Cheese » 31 Jan 2009 23:30

Schards#2 I'm sure from a few thousand miles away today's effort was entertaining and inspiring, however, from 6 yards away it was dull, uninspiring and woeful as have been many recent games.

The only reason we are second is because everyone else in this division is even worse. We are a poor team, far worse than the 106 side, far worse than the side that finished 8th in the prem and worse than the one that got relegated.

Progress? Maybe from the other side of an ocean, but not in the flesh i'm afraid.

That's without doubt the post of the century.

I thought you couldn't make yourself look more stupid but congratulations, you've managed it in spectacular fashion.

Keep it up - you're like Sir Dodger Royal without the humour.

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by seahawk10 » 31 Jan 2009 23:37

Schards#2 I'm sure from a few thousand miles away today's effort was entertaining and inspiring, however, from 6 yards away it was dull, uninspiring and woeful as have been many recent games.

The only reason we are second is because everyone else in this division is even worse. We are a poor team, far worse than the 106 side, far worse than the side that finished 8th in the prem and worse than the one that got relegated.

Progress? Maybe from the other side of an ocean, but not in the flesh i'm afraid.


I would agree that it is much harder for someone like me to get a good feel for the potential of our current team. Not only am I an ocean away, I am also a relative newcomer to following a club team. All jesting aside (as the first post was meant to be a good-spirited ribbing towards you mate), I am happy with the direction of the team under JM and SC.

It would help if I understood the economics of football better. But all this talk that we need a large cash infusion to attain mid-table Prem status unsettles me to be honest. I think that is the wrong direction to take. First things first. We need to get promoted or all this talk is just nonsense. But if we were to get back to first division football I would like to see the core of the team remain in tact with maybe three or four new players brought in via transfers, purchases (signing free agents) and loans.

Maintain the financial stability and try to get by in the lower half of the Prem. I just don't want to see the club go heavily in to debt. My idea seems to fall in line with what Madejski is doing. I hope for all of our sakes it works.

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Re: Not Hard to see progress for the forseeable future

by Ian Royal » 01 Feb 2009 00:34

Seahawk. Location doesn't aid in talking good sense, well done for proving that.

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