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Re: Coppell Out

by Big Ern » 24 Feb 2008 17:15

Coppelled Streets
Championship Chairman!!

The blame firmly at Madejski's feet.



The truth of the matter is there could be a number of reasons that we did not invest heavily in the team

1 - Club was prepared to compete with the transfer fees, but not the player wage demands - Mr Mads Fault
2 - Club were not prepared to pay transfer fees - Mr Mads Fault
3- Coppell didn't think we needed additional players - Coppels Fault
4 - Players we wanted did not want to come here - Nobodys fault.

Whatever the reasons and the behind the scemes politics, we are where we are and there nowt we can do about it. If we go down the reason will be faling to add quality to the sqaud.

My thoughts are still that we are a Premiership club run on a Championship budget, only going to end in relegation, if not this season, then very soon.

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Re: Coppell Out

by Forest Gump » 24 Feb 2008 17:22

Have to agree. Coppell had to teansfer windows to improve the team and failed. With the window closed the only part of the team we could change is the management.
However, at this stage I don't think that any manager could save us.

As for talk of being "best to bring us back up" that is sheer acknowledgement of defeat.
I the same week as Birmingham announce plans to improve their ground we decide to shelf expansion of the Madejski.

This club does not want to succeed and it doesn't deserve to.

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Re: Coppell Out

by shadesrwrf » 24 Feb 2008 17:50

Whenever Royalee opens his mouth I put his opinion into perspective by reading this:

Royalee Could be very close between United, Chelsea and Liverpool. All three have made decent signings and it'll be interesting to see how all of Liverpool's new signings work out, not just Torres. Malouda is looking class and we all know about United's signings.

Arsenal have no chance in hell though - maybe in a year or two the young guns (ha) will have improved further and gelled, but they're light years behind the other three (United and Chelsea in particular) as a team and it wouldn't surprise me if Newcastle and Spurs ran them very close for the Champions League this season.

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Re: Coppell Out

by Big Ern » 24 Feb 2008 17:51

shadesrwrf Whenever Royalee opens his mouth I put his opinion into perspective by reading this:

Royalee Could be very close between United, Chelsea and Liverpool. All three have made decent signings and it'll be interesting to see how all of Liverpool's new signings work out, not just Torres. Malouda is looking class and we all know about United's signings.

Arsenal have no chance in hell though - maybe in a year or two the young guns (ha) will have improved further and gelled, but they're light years behind the other three (United and Chelsea in particular) as a team and it wouldn't surprise me if Newcastle and Spurs ran them very close for the Champions League this season.


Just reading his last post is always good enough for me.

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Re: Coppell Out

by Chuckle Brother » 24 Feb 2008 18:02

Coppell may not be picking the side we all think he should (ie Oster) and perhaps Lita should be getting a game. But how many other supporters actaully think their manager is getting everything totally spot on ? The fact is bar a couple of exceptions he is putting out the side most of us would pick. It is the players that are letting us down. Not Coppell.


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Re: Coppell Out

by DelBoyRodders » 24 Feb 2008 18:06

Royalee Sorry, but I've lost all confidence in him - how he can still play Oster after his last two inept performances is a joke and he once again didn't change it early enough. In the close-ups you could see he was a lost man and he honestly doesn't have a clue about how he'd get us out of this. It's all very well Madejski saying he can take us back up, but the fact of the matter is the current squad aren't good enough to take us back up and we'll lose our best players anyway.


Can I just say to you, oxf*rd off you clueless prick!!

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Re: Coppell Out

by Forbury Lion » 24 Feb 2008 18:07

Coppell out = No

Coppell out of ideas = It certainly looks that way.

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Re: Coppell Out

by Alan Partridge » 24 Feb 2008 18:12

I'll be honest, personally I don't think Coppell has a clue what to do. He keeps picking his mates yet they aren't good enough. He has NO confidence in the rest of the squad (WHICH HE BOUGHT) and no confidence in any of the youth players.

His team selection today was abysmal. They are the best team for aerial balls and set pieces in the league. So Cisse who can't head the fcuking thing starts at CB. We can't score goals, same useless wingers and frontmen. What do you have to do to get dropped in this team???? Punch a member of staff? Set fire to Coppell's Car?? I don't know.

Thing is if he went now, whoever came in would have the same shit to work with. Nothign anyone else could do about it. Coppell has earnt the right to have till the end of the season.

But seriously put aside the last 2 years where he has been BRILLIANT, and in the here and now of 2007/2008 has Coppell's performance been good enough? I would say NO.

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Re: Coppell Out

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 24 Feb 2008 18:12

Why would Coppell give a fcuk about JM?

Coppell's been in this game far too long to take the shite for someone else's mistakes. If we didn't sign players because the money for wages or transfer fees were not there Coppell would be shouting so from the roof tops, rather than looking like a fcuking idiot who's head is buried in the sand.

"We don't need a centre half cause we've got Cisse."

"We don't need a right winger cause Fae can play there."

That's why we've gone from a good looking mid table side to one that doesn't look like it can win.

The problem is now there is nothing we can do about it.


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Re: Coppell Out

by Alan Partridge » 24 Feb 2008 18:14

Good point. In the Championship you get away with 'utility players' Ricky Newman was the obvious one along with Hughes. Players who withe foort alone could fill in for you. Can't do it in the Premiership, players are too good and they punish weakness.

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Re: Coppell Out

by IMAMATEOFJOVSKY » 24 Feb 2008 18:20

Ive said all along the chairman is to blame - and im sticking there¬ is Coppell going to come out and openly say the chairman wont give me the money I need? That would be wholly damaging to the chairmans huge ego - so no , Coppell tows the partyline and this is where it has got him - I expect Coppell to throw towel in at end of season due to lack of financial support.

I dont understand why nearly every manager has a transfer budget, but when Coppell wants to buy he has to go with begging bowl to Chairman and feed him grapes!

We need a new chairman not a new manager - and a new board wouldnt be a bad thing either, get rid of Waldorf, Stadler and Co who are on it at the mo - after all we are now a comedy show

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Re: Coppell Out

by Royalee » 24 Feb 2008 18:22

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Royalee Sorry, but I've lost all confidence in him - how he can still play Oster after his last two inept performances is a joke and he once again didn't change it early enough. In the close-ups you could see he was a lost man and he honestly doesn't have a clue about how he'd get us out of this. It's all very well Madejski saying he can take us back up, but the fact of the matter is the current squad aren't good enough to take us back up and we'll lose our best players anyway.


Can I just say to you, oxf*rd off you clueless prick!!

Typical modern day football fan with half a brain cell


Thank you for your input. I can call you a c*nt as well and not even bother to put forward a decent argument. Shall we take it in turns?

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Re: Coppell Out

by Royalee » 24 Feb 2008 18:23

Agree with the majority of what AP and SKDD have said.


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Re: Coppell Out

by dogmark01 » 24 Feb 2008 18:34

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Royalee Sorry, but I've lost all confidence in him - how he can still play Oster after his last two inept performances is a joke and he once again didn't change it early enough. In the close-ups you could see he was a lost man and he honestly doesn't have a clue about how he'd get us out of this. It's all very well Madejski saying he can take us back up, but the fact of the matter is the current squad aren't good enough to take us back up and we'll lose our best players anyway.


Can I just say to you, oxf*rd off you clueless prick!!

Typical modern day football fan with half a brain cell


Thank you for your input. I can call you a c*nt as well and not even bother to put forward a decent argument. Shall we take it in turns?


yes but when someone calls you a prick it holds more weight than most other throw away comments and it is constructive becouse you indeed sir are a prick.

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Re: Coppell Out

by Alan Partridge » 24 Feb 2008 18:36

I'm not saying Coppell should go, I think he deserves AT LEAST until the end of the season.

However

8 straight defeats? If any other club in this league had a run like that do you think their manager would still be at the club? And still be as secure as Coppell is here?

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Re: Coppell Out

by Royalee » 24 Feb 2008 18:37

You w*nk your dogs evidently 'Mark'

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Re: Coppell Out

by Royal Lady » 24 Feb 2008 18:38

IMAMATEOFJOVSKY Ive said all along the chairman is to blame - and im sticking there¬ is Coppell going to come out and openly say the chairman wont give me the money I need? That would be wholly damaging to the chairmans huge ego - so no , Coppell tows the partyline and this is where it has got him - I expect Coppell to throw towel in at end of season due to lack of financial support.

I dont understand why nearly every manager has a transfer budget, but when Coppell wants to buy he has to go with begging bowl to Chairman and feed him grapes!

We need a new chairman not a new manager - and a new board wouldnt be a bad thing either, get rid of Waldorf, Stadler and Co who are on it at the mo - after all we are now a comedy show
That is exactly my way of thinking. Coppell still values his job and has done for the last two seasons, to openly state that Madejski won't give him the money he needs would be suicide for him. I hope he tells it as it is when he leaves though.

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Re: Coppell Out

by Royalee » 24 Feb 2008 18:47

Why? He was hot property last season with people touting him for the England job last season - he could have walked straight into a job if the money wasn't there and he'd come out in public and criticised Madejski. I'm pretty sure our fans would have backed him to the hills if he'd said the same too, but he didn't because ultimately he had funds in place and chose not to use them because he has no bottle.

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Re: Coppell Out

by IMAMATEOFJOVSKY » 24 Feb 2008 18:48

Royal Lady - we just need to convince the others!

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Re: Coppell Out

by Dr Hfuhruhurr » 24 Feb 2008 18:49

Royalee Except Coppell ADMITTED HIMSELF that he had been fully backed with funds to bring in players and stated publicly that he chose not to sign players in January. If he really wanted to bring players in then why did he go on record the Thursday before the window shut and laud the closure of the window?


Well if you believe that, then its hard to take the rest seriously. When it comes to the issue of Reading's wage structure it ALL comes down to Madejski's hatred of paying players premiership wages. Two years ago, the players were motivated to get promoted, last year it was to establish themselves as premiership players. And this year? Who knows. We dont want to win a cup, we dont want to win a place in Europe - in essence we want to be marginally better than three teams. The players have nothing to play for, except their contracts, and they must know now that the Reading contract that will be offered will be bettered at a least a dozen other clubs, some of them which are interested in their services.

Their only hope is threefold if they want to secure the contract of their international compatriots.
Hope Reading accept a bid from another club - Reading have failed to do this for Hunt and Shorey.
Hope Madejski has a sudden change of heart on the issue of contracts - a big LOL at that.
Or... sign a contract that is pittance in relative terms in the Premiership but is unsustainable in the Championship, hope the club gets relegated and force a sale at the end of the year. Hunt has already done this, Im sure Shorey will follow and Ill watch what Doyle does closely. This is exactly what happened at Sunderland when they went down without a whimper and its the closest model I can think. Of course, they went on a horror run (15 without a win wasnt it?) so do not be at all surprised if this run of ours continues for another month or so yet.

No, Reading's problems are primarily at the Chairman/DoF and player level - Coppell has been left with an impossible job in the middle, and he has to come out with the comment that you rely so much upon, Royalee, to impress on the players that they arent at a club going nowhere. Although they probably know now, like us, that its all BS. But the bit thats going to blow your mind? Relegation is probably the best thing that will happen to us. Reading arent a club that get on with the Premier League.

Ill agree with you with Oster. I like Coppell's approach to player loyalty, but I would prefer him to place loyalty to a player we might conceive has a possible long term future at the club. But the bit where Reading lost at home to Watford when there was so much to play for, is for me the turning point. You might say that and our shambolic approach to cup runs might be enough to suggest a different manager - but in the present set up? You're having a laugh. I couldnt think of a single manager who could keep us up. The only one I can think of is a manager who knows the players well.......... its all a matter of whether he gets as fed up as us and resigns.

Oh, the Man City job - totally irrelevant, mate.

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