Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by John Madejski's Wallet » 03 Oct 2009 18:18

I am so sick of Rogers' complete inability to showany tactical awareness.

I thought the first half was fairly 50:50 and was pretty content at half time (lame, lame goal aside)

Yes Kebe was awful, but the change at half time killed us. Your left winger (who'd played ok up till then) gets shunted into obscurity on the right, a central midfielder gets shunted left...... seriously, what a woeful, woeful idea. From that moment on the team had no idea what they were doing. And when Bryn (our playmaker?!) got taken off things went even worse

Can someone honestly say they seen Rogers make anything other than a sh*t substitution? He moans on the radio about us playing badly in the second half when the first was going ok..... well you're the one that made the change you f*cking tw*t :evil:

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by bloody Volvo driver » 03 Oct 2009 18:22

Fed 5 - not at fault for either goal, but do not trust him
Bertrand 5.5 - not at his best
Cummings 3 - Totally at fault for first goal, a shocking player
Ivar 7 - Usual Ivar performance
O Dea 5 - Worst game in a Reading shirt
Karacan 7 - MOTM - at least he tried
Bryn 5 - Normally a Bryn fan, but he was poor today
Howard 3 - Can anyone tell me what this man has bought to Reading Football Club
Kebe 4 - Usual Kebe home performance
McAnuff 6 - Started well, but faded after the break when moved to the right
Church 5 - No service!!!

Sig 5.5 Didn't do much either right or wrong
Hunt 6.5 - Looked busy and tried to make things happen

A real eye opener, that was relegation material

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by I was there at Elm Park » 03 Oct 2009 18:23

John Madejski's Wallet I am so sick of Rogers' complete inability to showany tactical awareness.

I thought the first half was fairly 50:50 and was pretty content at half time (lame, lame goal aside)

Yes Kebe was awful, but the change at half time killed us. Your left winger (who'd played ok up till then) gets shunted into obscurity on the right, a central midfielder gets shunted left...... seriously, what a woeful, woeful idea. From that moment on the team had no idea what they were doing. And when Bryn (our playmaker?!) got taken off things went even worse

Can someone honestly say they seen Rogers make anything other than a sh*t substitution? He moans on the radio about us playing badly in the second half when the first was going ok..... well you're the one that made the change you f*cking tw*t :evil:


Just spoke to someone at the game and they wondered whether Rodgers panicked and pandered to the fans' wish for a second striker.

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by Terminal Boardom » 03 Oct 2009 18:26

Where to start.

Firstly, to everyone who started leaving 15-20 minutes before the end of the match - good for you. Thing is, if you don't want to watch the whole game why bother turning up in the first instance?

The team

A-Fed 6 - Did nothing wrong and distribution ok
Short Cummings 4 - Does this guy know what his role is in the team?
O'Dear 4 - Struggled with the movement of Boro's attacking pair
Ingi 4 - How many times did Lita beat him in the air?
Plastic 4 - After a bright start to his loan spell he looks as if he can't be arsed
Karacan 5 - Huffed and puffed but no movement in front of him so nowhere to go. Easily bypassed by Boro's movement
Gunnarsson 3 - Started badly and got worse which is a great shame as he is much better than that
MacAnuff 8 - The only player today who actually looked as if he wanted to try and create something
Howard 3 - What has he contributed to the team since he has been here?
Kebe 5 - Failed to be properly supported by either SC or BH. Unfairly taken off as there were plenty worse than him
Church 5 - One up front at home. Really positive move that.

Quite frankly, today was not good enough. I felt positive and fired up before the game. I really thought that after Tuesday we would see further improvement. How wrong could I have been. That was shocking. The frailties are all to obvious to the supporters. When will the people who count for something in the club see this and do something?

BR is a fan. I accept that. What I hope is that he gets this across to the players. I doubt the players give a toss. They can pick up their £5,000 to £10,000 a week safe in the knowledge that the money will keep rolling in. Bunch of fecking mercanaries.

And when the crowd start cheering in the 90th minute for a shot on target... You couldn't make it up.

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by ROKERITE » 03 Oct 2009 18:26

It is eleven games into a forty-six match season. Add the two League Cupties and that is thirteen competitive matches that Rodgers has been in charge of for Reading. To judge any manager after thirteen matches is preposterous. To be writing off a man who gave so many years of service to the club and who showed more than just promise in less than a season at Watford is even more risible.
Reading will not be relegated this season; in fact I still think a top-half finish is a distinct probability.


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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by Thou Voice » 03 Oct 2009 18:28

ROKERITE It is eleven games into a forty-six match season. Add the two League Cupties and that is thirteen competitive matches that Rodgers has been in charge of for Reading. To judge any manager after thirteen matches is preposterous. To be writing off a man who gave so many years of service to the club and who showed more than just promise in less than half a season at Watford is even more risible.
Reading will not be relegated this season; in fact I still think a top-half finish is a distinct probability.


Give ME some of WHAT YOUR smoking...

...the time has come to stop defending this fool of a manager, he's been found out and clearly cannot manager anything bar a Sunday Pub team.

GAME OVER RODGERS! GAME OVER...

DO YOU SEE? :shock:

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by Tommy Youlden's Ears » 03 Oct 2009 18:28

My first game of the season. Bloody hell - has it been this bad?

Full backs, little boys without a shred of confidence or positional nous. Gunnar as playmaker? Urh, mwuh, huh? Kebe Kebe Kebe got no fire in yer belly. Church as mobile as a gravestone.

Jobi. Maybe. Just maybe.

Howard; might he be better in a better team. Hunt gave it some welly.

Karacan at least looked like he listened to the plan.

If there was a plan. I really don't know whether you blame the players for gutless, clueless, shapeless capitulation. Or do you blame the management that let them out of the hutch in that state?

However, i kind of enjoyed it. First time for two seasons that we don't have to gnaw our fingernails to the bone, knowing that our players are good enough to make it, but terrfied (rightly) that they won't. This season we're crap. We know we're crap, and we can just sit back and watch the slow motion car crash that is this season . Might be fun.

OK, maybe not. But it is, somehow, less stressful.

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by Humanistic » 03 Oct 2009 18:28

John Madejski's Wallet I am so sick of Rogers' complete inability to showany tactical awareness.

I thought the first half was fairly 50:50 and was pretty content at half time (lame, lame goal aside)

Yes Kebe was awful, but the change at half time killed us. Your left winger (who'd played ok up till then) gets shunted into obscurity on the right, a central midfielder gets shunted left...... seriously, what a woeful, woeful idea. From that moment on the team had no idea what they were doing. And when Bryn (our playmaker?!) got taken off things went even worse

Can someone honestly say they seen Rogers make anything other than a sh*t substitution? He moans on the radio about us playing badly in the second half when the first was going ok..... well you're the one that made the change you f*cking tw*t :evil:


Agree totally with that. And why on a seven man bench do we have 2 central defenders, 3 if you add Cisse? So few attacking options- once Hunt comes on there's nothing left. Where are Mooney/Robson-Kanu/Antonio? Could argue they're not good enough I suppose, which highlights how the squad is overloaded with defenders and central midfielders but is desperately short of attacking players.

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by howser » 03 Oct 2009 18:29

Well if nothing else Mr Ego will have a smile on his face.........................no doubt concerned about having to pay out a win bonus on Tuesday, he can happily put his scissors away and keep his cloth uncut today. The man really gets on my tits with the "we are a well run club" bollocks, he is responsible for this carnage and the sooner he fcuks off the better, the mans an ass and when he goes good bloody ridance to hm. !!


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by Royal Lady » 03 Oct 2009 18:30

His "years of service" were with the Academy - I don't even know how well they did under his tenure, he might be ace with young kids, but in the proper grown up world of Championship level football with Reading, so far, he appears to be pants.

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by starbug » 03 Oct 2009 18:38

Worst performance this season, just like last season where players cant pass and dont know what to do with the ball, despite totally different personnel its the same performances.

First half wasn't too bad (ignoring the multitude of dreadful crosses) but what the hell happens at half time, do they all have a nice kip or something as they certainly seem asleep in second halves of matches

The big worry is that we're going backwards from the start of the season.

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by The Surgeon of Crowthorne » 03 Oct 2009 18:38

That was abject.

We are just so pedestrian going forward - there appears to be absolutely no pace about us at all.

The 4-2-3-1 formation we play these days just looks to encourage us to endlessly pass the ball sideways in our own half. Where's the forward movement?

Time, also, to revive Shards's thread about the weakest set of forwards at the club for ten years.

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by Archie's penalty » 03 Oct 2009 18:41

Wasn't there today but it's obvious the same problems are there from last year. We were great away then and poor at home.

If some of you had been to Preston you would have seen a completely different performance.

F*ck knows how we're going to sort it out at home. We need a win soon but our away form should see us into mid-table.


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by weybridgewanderer » 03 Oct 2009 18:42

ROKERITE It is eleven games into a forty-six match season. Add the two League Cupties and that is thirteen competitive matches that Rodgers has been in charge of for Reading. To judge any manager after thirteen matches is preposterous. To be writing off a man who gave so many years of service to the club and who showed more than just promise in less than a season at Watford is even more risible.
Reading will not be relegated this season; in fact I still think a top-half finish is a distinct probability.


have you been to any games this season?

when can we start to judge him? when to we start to believe relegation is a risk and do something about it?

first it was 10 to 15 games. well we are in that window now, we have West Brom away and QPR away and leicester at home as the next 3.

We'll then be a third of the way through the season. While I;d love to take 9 points, 0 points is a real possibilty.

Today was pretty much just like Swansea away, except this time we were playing a team that had a half decent striker.

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by ROKERITE » 03 Oct 2009 18:52

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ROKERITE It is eleven games into a forty-six match season. Add the two League Cupties and that is thirteen competitive matches that Rodgers has been in charge of for Reading. To judge any manager after thirteen matches is preposterous. To be writing off a man who gave so many years of service to the club and who showed more than just promise in less than a season at Watford is even more risible.
Reading will not be relegated this season; in fact I still think a top-half finish is a distinct probability.


have you been to any games this season?

when can we start to judge him? when to we start to believe relegation is a risk and do something about it?

first it was 10 to 15 games. well we are in that window now, we have West Brom away and QPR away and leicester at home as the next 3.

We'll then be a third of the way through the season. While I;d love to take 9 points, 0 points is a real possibilty.

Today was pretty much just like Swansea away, except this time we were playing a team that had a half decent striker.


Why no; I've never been to Reading in my life.
I'd say about this time next year.

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by PEARCEY » 03 Oct 2009 18:54

^ Even if we go down ST...and I know you don't think we will but hey it might just happen.

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by RoyalBlue » 03 Oct 2009 19:14

Two calls to BBCRB after the game summed it up for me.

One caller said he got to the point where he'd wasted enough of his life on Saturdays going along to watch that sort of rubbish. I know what he means, season ticket money is already blown and can do nothing about that but with so many other things to do in life, is it worth blowing precious time being bored silly and coming home utterly depressed.

The other caller, in response to the question, 'If you could do one thing about the club what would it be?' had Dellor absolutely cacking his pants with the quickfire response 'Shoot Madejski!' :lol:

howser Well if nothing else Mr Ego will have a smile on his face.........................no doubt concerned about having to pay out a win bonus on Tuesday, he can happily put his scissors away and keep his cloth uncut today. The man really gets on my tits with the "we are a well run club" bollocks, he is responsible for this carnage and the sooner he fcuks off the better, the mans an ass and when he goes good bloody ridance to hm. !!


The disciples of Madejski will be issuing a fatwa in response to that!

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by Terminal Boardom » 03 Oct 2009 19:19

Archie's penalty Wasn't there today but it's obvious the same problems are there from last year. We were great away then and poor at home.

If some of you had been to Preston you would have seen a completely different performance.

F*ck knows how we're going to sort it out at home. We need a win soon but our away form should see us into mid-table.


And how many times on Tuesday night did Fed pull off an important save or they hit the post or bar? Being realistic and objective (which for HNA will be a novelty), what could the final score have been Tuesday?

But that was Tuesday. Next game, same line up, shambolic attempt. WTF is going on? Where's the motivation? Where's the passion?

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Re: Back From The Game - Middlesbrough (H)

by RoyalBlue » 03 Oct 2009 19:21

Where's the fitness?

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by Archie's penalty » 03 Oct 2009 19:22

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Archie's penalty Wasn't there today but it's obvious the same problems are there from last year. We were great away then and poor at home.

If some of you had been to Preston you would have seen a completely different performance.

F*ck knows how we're going to sort it out at home. We need a win soon but our away form should see us into mid-table.


And how many times on Tuesday night did Fed pull off an important save or they hit the post or bar? Being realistic and objective (which for HNA will be a novelty), what could the final score have been Tuesday?

But that was Tuesday. Next game, same line up, shambolic attempt. WTF is going on? Where's the motivation? Where's the passion?


Well they could have got another three goals but we could have had another two - so 4-4 :|

I really don't know how it could be so different in four days, but it could have something to do with the motivation factor, and the fact that there is so much pressure on them to do well at the Madejski.

See my Jekyll and Hyde thread.

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