the club will sack rodgers

[Royal Lady]

No he doesn't want to quadruple the wages, but nor should he want us relegated into Division 1 - because he'll lose an awful lot more money by doing that, than if we were mid table.

[Terminal Boardom]

i think he may be losing the dressing room

Evidence? Anyone???

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

i think he may be losing the dressing room

Evidence? Anyone???

since when has the sort of person who comes out with knee-jerk drivel like that ever needed evidence?

[Royal Lady]

I have no idea if he's lost the dressing room or not - but it wouldn't surprise me - when you consider players don't know if they're in the team or out from one week to the next, irrespective of how they played - don't appear to know what formation they are playing, don't appear to have a clue about tactics - a professional footballer could be forgiven for not having much faith in a manager who treats them like this and who then goes to the media and appears to blame the players when all else has failed!

[facaldaqui]

My impression is that far from losing faith in Rodgers, the players still share his vision of Reading as one of the best teams in the league, one of the stronger clubs, and still capable of mounting a promotion challenge. This may actually be part of the problem: a lack of realism. Obviously they aren't going to buy into the view of the fans that they aren't good enough as a team and, in several cases, not good enough as players.

I am increasingly irked by the fact that Rodgers and some of the players are now saying that the fans need to be realistic in their expectations. No, the management and players need to be realistic. They are the ones who need to forget the premiership for the moment. The fans aren't concerned because of the lack of a promotion challenge; they're concerned at the possibility of relegation. I don't think the players yet grasp that relegation is possible: but we fans have been around a longer time, and we've seen it before, repeatedly. The fans saw it coming before Bullivant did, for example. We also took potential relegation seriously in the year when Mansell got us relegated. That year, the manager fiddled while Rome burned, and the team arrogantly thought relegation could not happen to them. Fans have long memories.

[Ian Royal]

Well said.

If you're in the bottom 3 at this stage it isn't bad luck, it's deserved. The only reason to be unconcerned is if you've had a handful of your best players out injured and they're on their way back.

Can't say that about us. Most people don't actually know who our best players are! Although it appears Rodgers thinks it's whoever didn't play the last game.

[No Fixed Abode]

Trust me on this - Reading will turn their season around. They will consolidate this year. Next season they'll be much more of a threat. Rodgers is here for the long hall.

[No Fixed Abode]

when you consider players don't know if they're in the team or out from one week to the next, irrespective of how they played

Same could be said for all the top Prem Teams. They cope with it.......Carvalho out one week, in the next. Same with the likes of Berbatov etc.

[Northern Git]

Loose on Monday and Rogers WILL be gone. You should put money on it.

[Ark Royal]

My impression is that far from losing faith in Rodgers, the players still share his vision of Reading as one of the best teams in the league, one of the stronger clubs, and still capable of mounting a promotion challenge. This may actually be part of the problem: a lack of realism. Obviously they aren't going to buy into the view of the fans that they aren't good enough as a team and, in several cases, not good enough as players.

I am increasingly irked by the fact that Rodgers and some of the players are now saying that the fans need to be realistic in their expectations. No, the management and players need to be realistic. They are the ones who need to forget the premiership for the moment. The fans aren't concerned because of the lack of a promotion challenge; they're concerned at the possibility of relegation. I don't think the players yet grasp that relegation is possible: but we fans have been around a longer time, and we've seen it before, repeatedly. The fans saw it coming before Bullivant did, for example. We also took potential relegation seriously in the year when Mansell got us relegated. That year, the manager fiddled while Rome burned, and the team arrogantly thought relegation could not happen to them. Fans have long memories.

Great post. +1.

My memory of relegation teams is elephantine. THIS team is a relegation team.

[Forest Gump]

I hope so and take that w@nker Hammond with him.

[Barry the bird boggler]

[Dorset-Knob]

when you consider players don't know if they're in the team or out from one week to the next, irrespective of how they played

Same could be said for all the top Prem Teams. They cope with it.......Carvalho out one week, in the next. Same with the likes of Berbatov etc.

There is the small matter of us not having players remotely close to the abilities of Carvalho or Berbatov!

I admire your positivity and I hope you're right, but this team reeks of the TB1&TB2 days stench of relegation.

Some of us have smelt it before and we know that it does not have to be inevitable, but it will, I fear require changes that BR cannot manage!

[strap]

I think if we lose and play as we have for the last half dozen games, Mr Mad will have little choice but to take BR aside, and have a quiet "thanks BR but this really isn't working is it?" conversation. Given the state of the Club's finances, I would imagine there would have to be a vey amicable conversation about a settlement figure. Certainly the contract will not be paid up in full!!! On a similar vein, I would imagine an appoitment from within, either in a caretaker of indeed permo position, Nigel Gibbs?

However, if there are ANY green shoots evident, and that could be a draw or a good display of attacking, passing football losing to an unlucky breakaway goal, then BR will probably be OK until the next international break.

There, a considered opinion with absolutely no ranting, name calling, vitriol or abuse. Must be due to me just having looked at the Brentford promo vid!!

[howser]

I do think that BR is safe, as any chance that Madejski will pay someone off is so unlikely, for a club on the brink of financial ruin lol !! I certainly dont think we will go down, and as long as we are above the drop zone then Madejski will think we have been successful, thats the perils of having a non footballing man as an owner. He has no interest or consideration for the supporters, only his bank account. The future of BR will be soley dependant on finance, thats just the way the owner is.

[loyalroyal4life]

jm needs to have words with SSC about a comeback first

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

when you consider players don't know if they're in the team or out from one week to the next, irrespective of how they played

Same could be said for all the top Prem Teams. They cope with it.......Carvalho out one week, in the next. Same with the likes of Berbatov etc.

There is the small matter of us not having players remotely close to the abilities of Carvalho or Berbatov!

I admire your positivity and I hope you're right, but this team reeks of the TB1&TB2 days stench of relegation.

Some of us have smelt it before and we know that it does not have to be inevitable, but it will, I fear require changes that BR cannot manage!

When we were still playing our younger players I did feel it was a matter of adjusting the style and bringing in a player or two to repair the holes. We were playing good football and looked a decent team, even if there was no end product. I didn't watch the players and think "these are relegation performances". Now that BR has put his players in the team though, we've taken a huge step backwards. We're now a team who play poor football with no end product.

[RoyalBlue]

jm needs to have words with SSC about a comeback first

Does Steve Coppell look stupid?!

All his gems sold off and filling PL team sheets, and JM cutting cloth more frantically than a piece worker at a Chinese sweat shop?!

[gazzer, loyal royal]

if we do lose tomorrow night with another poor performance I think Madejski will find it hard not to sack him.

The fans certainly turned on him at QPR and with 15k fans wanting his head on sky with the above situation, he can't stay on. However if we lose and play well i think he will stay on

[Ian Royal]

If Mad has gone about it properly and has had a formal meeting saying he is not achieving his targets or fulfilling his contract, then another warning and we can sack him without worrying too much abotu big pay offs.