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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by winchester_royal » 24 Oct 2009 21:57

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Ian Royal I'm sorry, but you're a cock. And it's completely impossible to have any sort of rational discussion with you right now.

Go away and suck some more Rodgers cock.


I know that feelings are running high at the moment, but I think an apology is required there.


Do you see the bit at the beginning?

"I'm Sorry" is generally considered to be an apology, so taken care of it already.

Still not really necessairy though was it? I thought we were having a decent discussion until you decided to get aggressive. :(

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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by Ian Royal » 24 Oct 2009 21:57

Go for it from game one. Pick a workable system and eleven, and stick to it for a few games before making unenforced changes. Sign players in your weakest areas.

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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by cmonurz » 24 Oct 2009 22:00

Ian Royal Go for it from game one. Pick a workable system and eleven, and stick to it for a few games before making unenforced changes. Sign players in your weakest areas.



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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by Sarah Star » 24 Oct 2009 22:10

Ian Royal Go for it from game one. Pick a workable system and eleven, and stick to it for a few games before making unenforced changes. Sign players in your weakest areas.

Still not sure I'd know what constitutes a "workable system and eleven" for us and we have to sell before we buy and take what we can get, but I'm willing to wait and see what happens in the next few games.

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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by Ian Royal » 24 Oct 2009 22:18

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Ian Royal Go for it from game one. Pick a workable system and eleven, and stick to it for a few games before making unenforced changes. Sign players in your weakest areas.

Still not sure I'd know what constitutes a "workable system and eleven" for us and we have to sell before we buy and take what we can get, but I'm willing to wait and see what happens in the next few games.


Well we don't have an outstanding striker or goalscoring wingers so we almost had to play 2 upfront. I thought one with attacking wingers might work, but it really needs good wingers to play the wide forward role, a creative player in form, a defensive player in form and someone to play box to box. It also needs time for those partnerships to form. We had to play a balanced midfield that combines creativity and solidness both in the middle and on the wings. We needed to work on the partnerships across the field.

How many times has our midfield and attack been the same from one game to another?


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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by Plymouth_Royal » 24 Oct 2009 22:32

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winchester_royal 'Greed. He should be just like Coppell, pick his favourite 11, and ignore everyone else.


Revisionist.

At least Coppell had a pecking order in his squad rather than just throwing players into the first team from not having even been in the squad for weeks, out of desperation.


I think the whole point in rodgers changing the starting 11 so much is to give everyone a chance to stake their claim in the first team. Unfortunately, he's discovered we have more shite than good in the squad and as a result are poorly placed in the league. I think you'll find over the next few games (if he's still here) that there will be a more settled team and hopefully an improvement in results.

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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by Horsham Royal » 24 Oct 2009 22:34

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winchester_royal 'Greed. He should be just like Coppell, pick his favourite 11, and ignore everyone else.


Revisionist.

At least Coppell had a pecking order in his squad rather than just throwing players into the first team from not having even been in the squad for weeks, out of desperation.


I think the whole point in rodgers changing the starting 11 so much is to give everyone a chance to stake their claim in the first team. Unfortunately, he's discovered we have more shite than good in the squad and as a result are poorly placed in the league. I think you'll find over the next few games (if he's still here) that there will be a more settled team and hopefully an improvement in results.
Yes. Hence his recent remarks about quality.

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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by Ian Royal » 24 Oct 2009 22:35

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winchester_royal 'Greed. He should be just like Coppell, pick his favourite 11, and ignore everyone else.


Revisionist.

At least Coppell had a pecking order in his squad rather than just throwing players into the first team from not having even been in the squad for weeks, out of desperation.


I think the whole point in rodgers changing the starting 11 so much is to give everyone a chance to stake their claim in the first team. Unfortunately, he's discovered we have more shite than good in the squad and as a result are poorly placed in the league. I think you'll find over the next few games (if he's still here) that there will be a more settled team and hopefully an improvement in results.


That is not something you do in the season. That's what preseason and training is for. Once you pick a team you give it a couple of games to work.

You certainly don't pick people. Drop them out of the squad totally, and then bring then back at a later date. That's a sign of clueless desperation. He's throwing things at the pitch and hoping to hit something magical. Well it just doesn't work like that.

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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by Horsham Royal » 24 Oct 2009 22:42

Ian Royal That is not something you do in the season. That's what preseason and training is for. Once you pick a team you give it a couple of games to work.

You certainly don't pick people. Drop them out of the squad totally, and then bring then back at a later date. That's a sign of clueless desperation. He's throwing things at the pitch and hoping to hit something magical. Well it just doesn't work like that.

IMO half a dozen friendlies is not enough to assess how players will work individually and collectively once they're competing.
If he chops and changes in the next 3 or 4, I agree though.


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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by Ian Royal » 24 Oct 2009 22:45

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Ian Royal That is not something you do in the season. That's what preseason and training is for. Once you pick a team you give it a couple of games to work.

You certainly don't pick people. Drop them out of the squad totally, and then bring then back at a later date. That's a sign of clueless desperation. He's throwing things at the pitch and hoping to hit something magical. Well it just doesn't work like that.

IMO half a dozen friendlies is not enough to assess how players will work individually and collectively once they're competing.
If he chops and changes in the next 3 or 4, I agree though.


And one game bursts is an idiotic way of doing things during the season and is working a charm right now.

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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by Horsham Royal » 24 Oct 2009 22:47

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Ian Royal That is not something you do in the season. That's what preseason and training is for. Once you pick a team you give it a couple of games to work.

You certainly don't pick people. Drop them out of the squad totally, and then bring then back at a later date. That's a sign of clueless desperation. He's throwing things at the pitch and hoping to hit something magical. Well it just doesn't work like that.

IMO half a dozen friendlies is not enough to assess how players will work individually and collectively once they're competing.
If he chops and changes in the next 3 or 4, I agree though.


And one game bursts is an idiotic way of doing things during the season and is working a charm right now.
Agree.

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Re: Wouldn't you know it

by Barry the bird boggler » 25 Oct 2009 07:19

After almost 5 months in the job Clodagh has as much clue about what his best 11 is as he did on his first day.

Some of this is enforced due to Madejski and some of it is his fault as he is trying stuff from his advanced book of tactics mostly with players who are way below the standard required.

However the players he has brought in should be good enough for this level of football therefore this would suggest that the problem is the combination of a manager trying to run before he can walk and lots of youngsters who are still getting to terms with the game as a whole or just not good enough.

As a result confidence is now shot to pieces and there is little belief that the manager knows what he is doing (of course that belief may well be being destroyed by the player's own incompetence).

Where he goes from here go alone knows, perhaps he should call the special one for a spot of consultancy.

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