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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Royal Ginger » 06 Jan 2013 15:57

Thames I'd rather have 2,000 hooligans following us than women and children


That's sheer stupidity. Sod off and support Milwall.

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Big Foot » 06 Jan 2013 15:57

Schards#2 Massive overreaction to the few incidents that took place yesterday. I don't think a single punch was landed and the guy hit by the board was a victim of druken stupidity rather than drunken violence. A pretty low attrition rate for 2,000 away fans, a remarkable percentae of whom had either had a few or were absolutely hammered. I thought chucking the guy out who fell over the boarder was unneccesary as has was doing no harm and trying to get back. Given that OTT stewarding in from of many pissed up fans I was pleasently surprised not to hear any racist chanting.

As has been previously said, 2,000 people, a huge percentage of which have been drinking will lead to incidents in any environment and Reading remain amongst the tamest of away followings with about 1% causing problems. I would also say the suggestion that this will impact on any decision to support safe standing is daft. It wasn't the standing that caused the problems, there would have been similar in a seated end. At home games families would have the choice of seating or standing, a choice they didn't really have yesterday.

Real mountain out of molehill territory.
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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 06 Jan 2013 15:59

Schards#2 Massive overreaction to the few incidents that took place yesterday. I don't think a single punch was landed and the guy hit by the board was a victim of druken stupidity rather than drunken violence.

Well I guess that's all right then.

Yeah, only 1% might cause problems. What I find odd is the attitude that criticising that 1% for doing so is somehow not on.

And I do think things might have got rather more heated had we lost.

Given that OTT stewarding in from of many pissed up fans I was pleasently surprised not to hear any racist chanting.

Yeah, they should be given a medal for not shouting racist abuse when clearly it was deserved.

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by winchester_royal » 06 Jan 2013 16:00

Schards#2 Massive overreaction to the few incidents that took place yesterday. I don't think a single punch was landed and the guy hit by the board was a victim of druken stupidity rather than drunken violence. A pretty low attrition rate for 2,000 away fans, a remarkable percentae of whom had either had a few or were absolutely hammered. I thought chucking the guy out who fell over the boarder was unneccesary as has was doing no harm and trying to get back. Given that OTT stewarding in from of many pissed up fans I was pleasently surprised not to hear any racist chanting.

As has been previously said, 2,000 people, a huge percentage of which have been drinking will lead to incidents in any environment and Reading remain amongst the tamest of away followings with about 1% causing problems. I would also say the suggestion that this will impact on any decision to support safe standing is daft. It wasn't the standing that caused the problems, there would have been similar in a seated end. At home games families would have the choice of seating or standing, a choice they didn't really have yesterday.

Real mountain out of molehill territory.


People who can't drink without getting violent shouldn't drink in the first place. Being drunk is no excuse.

It's a surprise because at games like Southampton/West Ham/Brizzle we haven't had these issues.

It will affect Reading's stance on safe standing because if the tiny hardcore percentage of Reading fans misbehave whenever they go to terraced away games it will obviously affect the RFC management's view.

The last thing they'll want (as shown by the way they reacted on twitter to the Kingsley account) is anything to threaten the position they're trying to take in the family market. I agree that it would be silly to taint terracing on the back of one small incident like this, but it may well dissuade them from taking the risk.

Anyway, this is all getting pretty dull tbh

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by winchester_royal » 06 Jan 2013 16:01

Thames I'd rather have 2,000 hooligans following us than women and children


You sound like a pretty awesome lad tbh


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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Big Foot » 06 Jan 2013 16:04

You are a self important sod Winchester_royal; out of interest, when did you start following Reading?

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by No Fixed Abode » 06 Jan 2013 16:05

It was the police, stewards fault. None of the fans are to blame as 'that's what crowds do'.

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by winchester_royal » 06 Jan 2013 16:06

Big Foot You are a self important sod Winchester_royal; out of interest, when did you start following Reading?

No surprise to see you wading in tbh.

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Big Foot » 06 Jan 2013 16:08

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Big Foot You are a self important sod Winchester_royal; out of interest, when did you start following Reading?

No surprise to see you wading in tbh.

1998. You?

Why no surprise? Lol @ 'wading in' you really are a sensationalist little so and so aren't you.


96 for me....so are you saying that you've rarely been on a terrace before?


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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Tails » 06 Jan 2013 16:09

Pretty dull game after what could have been a lot different had we conceeded one of the two good changes they had when already 1-0 up.

All this talk of the misdemeanors committed by 0.1% of the support is all a bit OTT really. It isn't like some one kicked in a gate and 100s ran on to the pitch.

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Alexander Litvinenko » 06 Jan 2013 16:10

Out of a crowd of nearly 2000 following Reading, a small handful turn out to be drunk and go over the top. What a shocker!

As always, though, the most depressing (and predictable) thing is the assumption made that the behaviour of so few somehow represents the behaviour of all.

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Schards#2 » 06 Jan 2013 16:10

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Schards#2 Massive overreaction to the few incidents that took place yesterday. I don't think a single punch was landed and the guy hit by the board was a victim of druken stupidity rather than drunken violence.

Well I guess that's all right then.

Yeah, only 1% might cause problems. What I find odd is the attitude that criticising that 1% for doing so is somehow not on.

And I do think things might have got rather more heated had we lost.

Given that OTT stewarding in from of many pissed up fans I was pleasently surprised not to hear any racist chanting.

Yeah, they should be given a medal for not shouting racist abuse when clearly it was deserved.


I haven't said one of the several things you are implying.

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by winchester_royal » 06 Jan 2013 16:15

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Big Foot You are a self important sod Winchester_royal; out of interest, when did you start following Reading?

No surprise to see you wading in tbh.

1998. You?

Why no surprise? Lol @ 'wading in' you really are a sensationalist little so and so aren't you.


96 for me....so are you saying that you've rarely been on a terrace before?


Sensitive? Nope, you're the one who started with the insults m8.

I've not been on a terrace that many times no, personally I really enjoyed yesterday, all I'm saying is that it's a shame some peoples enjoyment was impacted by a few selfish yobs and that really shouldn't happen anymore.

Not saying that terracing was at fault, obviously the individuals are responsible. Just that such incidents do not help push the case for safe standing with the RFC management.


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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by winchester_royal » 06 Jan 2013 16:17

Alexander Litvinenko Out of a crowd of nearly 2000 following Reading, a small handful turn out to be drunk and go over the top. What a shocker!

As always, though, the most depressing (and predictable) thing is the assumption made that the behaviour of so few somehow represents the behaviour of all.


Where has anyone made that assumption?

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Alexander Litvinenko » 06 Jan 2013 16:19

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Alexander Litvinenko Out of a crowd of nearly 2000 following Reading, a small handful turn out to be drunk and go over the top. What a shocker!

As always, though, the most depressing (and predictable) thing is the assumption made that the behaviour of so few somehow represents the behaviour of all.


Where has anyone made that assumption?


Twitter, for starters.

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by winchester_royal » 06 Jan 2013 16:21

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Alexander Litvinenko Out of a crowd of nearly 2000 following Reading, a small handful turn out to be drunk and go over the top. What a shocker!

As always, though, the most depressing (and predictable) thing is the assumption made that the behaviour of so few somehow represents the behaviour of all.


Where has anyone made that assumption?


Twitter, for starters.


Well that's a shame, because on the most part I thought the fans were excellent yesterday.

For me it just makes the actions of the minority even more inexcusable though. It's people like them that ensure that authorities treat all football fans with a ridiculously heavy hand.

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Big Foot » 06 Jan 2013 16:23

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winchester_royal No surprise to see you wading in tbh.

1998. You?

Why no surprise? Lol @ 'wading in' you really are a sensationalist little so and so aren't you.


96 for me....so are you saying that you've rarely been on a terrace before?


Sensitive? Nope, you're the one who started with the insults m8.

I've not been on a terrace that many times no, personally I really enjoyed yesterday, all I'm saying is that it's a shame some peoples enjoyment was impacted by a few selfish yobs and that really shouldn't happen anymore.

Not saying that terracing was at fault, obviously the individuals are responsible. Just that such incidents do not help push the case for safe standing with the RFC management.
Who mentioned the word sensitive? Re-read my post...clearly literate isn't another adjective I'd use for you alongside 'sensationalist' and 'self-important'...

Still wondering why it's no surprise I 'waded in'? If you can please confirm, thanks :|

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by winchester_royal » 06 Jan 2013 16:29

Who mentioned the word sensitive? Re-read my post...clearly literate isn't another adjective I'd use for you alongside 'sensationalist' and 'self-important'...

Still wondering why it's no surprise I 'waded in'? If you can please confirm, thanks :|


Misread sensationalist, my apologies.

It's no surprise because you seem like the type that might agree with Thames' preference.

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Big Foot » 06 Jan 2013 16:38

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Who mentioned the word sensitive? Re-read my post...clearly literate isn't another adjective I'd use for you alongside 'sensationalist' and 'self-important'...

Still wondering why it's no surprise I 'waded in'? If you can please confirm, thanks :|


Misread sensationalist, my apologies.

It's no surprise because you seem like the type that might agree with Thames' preference.

As it goes, I'd probably rather have 50:50 split between 'hoolies' and women/children. After all, you need some birds to look at between ripping up advertising boards/giving players an earful and also need youngsters to entertain and bring through as the next generation.

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Re: BFTG -Crawley

by Philly Flyer » 06 Jan 2013 16:39

For the benefit of nobbers who weren't there. At the end of the game I waited with my son on the terrace and was one of the last out of the North End. On the way out I asked the steward who received so much stick how the Reading fans had behaved relative to other away fans. He said: "no better but no worse". In summary isolated and regrettable incidents of moronic behaviour involving a small number of fans. Personally wished it hadn't happened and hope it doesn't happen again. As Brian says: "we move on..."

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