HMRC Winding up petition/order

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Stranded » 10 Jul 2023 13:30

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Snowflake Royal That seems unlikely... I thought legal functions were skewed heavily to reaching settlements without having to go through the full process.


Everything I have read suggests the formal process is as follows:

Petition filed for by creditor
Company issues a response which may be payment in full, or via agreed plan.
Court hearing has to occur for court to review the petition and the company response. If the court then grants the petition based on the facts presented, it becomes an order.

A petition is the course of last resort to get payment so is only used if absolutely necessary, the nature of the petition means it has to go to court to be cleared even if the company pays up and as other creditors could also support the petition - so in theory, we could reach agreement with HMRC but be wound up as another creditor sees it as the only way to get paid.


The law isn't quite that big an ass. A winding up petition can be withdrawn by the petitioner (in this case HMRC) with the permission of the court.

https://windinguppetitionsolicitors.co.uk/withdrawing-a-winding-up-petition/#:~:text=How%20to%20withdraw%20a%20winding,the%20permission%20of%20the%20court.


Ok, that makes sense though ther are some fairly strict guidelines in terms of timeliness under which that can happen.

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Winston Biscuit » 10 Jul 2023 13:38

SkyBet have us as joint 5th favourites to go up

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by windermereROYAL » 10 Jul 2023 13:40

Winston Biscuit SkyBet have us as joint 5th favourites to go up


Must be a decent price to go down then, might be worth a Judas bet.

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Winston Biscuit » 10 Jul 2023 13:46

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Winston Biscuit SkyBet have us as joint 5th favourites to go up


Must be a decent price to go down then, might be worth a Judas bet.


They are not offering relegation offs, maybe because of us (and Wigan)

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Hound » 10 Jul 2023 15:13

Does feel like something has to come to a head soon - club has to comment again soon surely? Though obvs it may just be another ‘Pang article’ made up by someone else. Could be wound up in a month - unlikely in itself but difficult to brush that one under the carpet

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Sutekh » 10 Jul 2023 15:51

Hound Does feel like something has to come to a head soon - club has to comment again soon surely? Though obvs it may just be another ‘Pang article’ made up by someone else. Could be wound up in a month - unlikely in itself but difficult to brush that one under the carpet


The BBC has contacted Reading and their owner Dai Yongge for a comment, but they are yet to respond.


Really? How unusual!

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by RoyalBlue » 10 Jul 2023 15:55



It claims that this is the fourth time we have been issued with a winding up petition but all three previous petitions must have been withdrawn prior to going to court since there is no record of them on The London Gazette that I could find. EIther way, if correct, not at all good.

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by leon » 10 Jul 2023 16:02

I really couldn't give a shit what the head in the sand gimps think, the way the club is being "run" is getting more and more concerning. And indicates that Dai doesn't care about the fans or the club.


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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Lower West » 10 Jul 2023 17:34

Club owners were happy to sell season tickets in the full knowledge of the precarious financial position of the club. Tells us all how Dai operates. Not a fit and proper person. Unlikely we'll ever see him at the ground ever again.

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Sutekh » 10 Jul 2023 17:38

Lower West Club owners were happy to sell season tickets in the full knowledge of the precarious financial position of the club. Tells us all how Dai operates. Not a fit and proper person. Unlikely we'll ever see him at the ground ever again.


But it's the only source of money the club has currently.

Let's hope someone non-Chinese wants to buy the club, even Mike Ashley would be a step forward.

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Hound » 10 Jul 2023 17:43

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Lower West Club owners were happy to sell season tickets in the full knowledge of the precarious financial position of the club. Tells us all how Dai operates. Not a fit and proper person. Unlikely we'll ever see him at the ground ever again.


But it's the only source of money the club has currently.

Let's hope someone non-Chinese wants to buy the club, even Mike Ashley would be a step forward.


Surely that Puscas money must be coming in (realise it’s in installments)

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Royal_jimmy » 10 Jul 2023 20:49



The BBC like calling us league one in the opening line of every article about us :lol:


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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Royal_jimmy » 10 Jul 2023 20:50

Lower West Club owners were happy to sell season tickets in the full knowledge of the precarious financial position of the club. Tells us all how Dai operates. Not a fit and proper person. Unlikely we'll ever see him at the ground ever again.


If he shows up at the ground I would fear for his personal safety tbh.

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Royal_jimmy » 10 Jul 2023 20:51

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Lower West Club owners were happy to sell season tickets in the full knowledge of the precarious financial position of the club. Tells us all how Dai operates. Not a fit and proper person. Unlikely we'll ever see him at the ground ever again.


But it's the only source of money the club has currently.

Let's hope someone non-Chinese wants to buy the club, even Mike Ashley would be a step forward.


At least he speaks English and knows how to run a football club

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Pepe the Horseman » 10 Jul 2023 21:54

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Lower West Club owners were happy to sell season tickets in the full knowledge of the precarious financial position of the club. Tells us all how Dai operates. Not a fit and proper person. Unlikely we'll ever see him at the ground ever again.


If he shows up at the ground I would fear for his personal safety tbh.

Someone might wave a sock at him.

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by tmesis » 10 Jul 2023 21:58

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Lower West Club owners were happy to sell season tickets in the full knowledge of the precarious financial position of the club. Tells us all how Dai operates. Not a fit and proper person. Unlikely we'll ever see him at the ground ever again.


But it's the only source of money the club has currently.

Let's hope someone non-Chinese wants to buy the club, even Mike Ashley would be a step forward.


At least he speaks English and knows how to run a football club

He ran Newcastle at bare minimum levels, using the club as a billboard for Sports Direct.

Applying the same model would probably see us turned into a Rotherham style Championship/League One yoyo club. I'm not sure why he's being touted as some kind of dream owner.

What he'd get out of the deal is also less clear.

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by tidus_mi2 » 10 Jul 2023 22:00

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But it's the only source of money the club has currently.

Let's hope someone non-Chinese wants to buy the club, even Mike Ashley would be a step forward.


At least he speaks English and knows how to run a football club

He ran Newcastle at bare minimum levels, using the club as a billboard for Sports Direct.

Applying the same model would probably see us turned into a Rotherham style Championship/League One yoyo club. I'm not sure why he's being touted as some kind of dream owner.

What he'd get out of the deal is also less clear.

Would be better than the current situation but I agree, I would hope for a more ambitious owner.

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Snowflake Royal » 10 Jul 2023 22:21

Lower West Club owners were happy to sell season tickets in the full knowledge of the precarious financial position of the club. Tells us all how Dai operates. Not a fit and proper person. Unlikely we'll ever see him at the ground ever again.

What were they going to do? Say we're having some financial trouble so let's not take in a couple of mil in revenue now?

oxf*rd lol

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Re: HMRC Winding up petition/order

by Snowflake Royal » 10 Jul 2023 22:23

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But it's the only source of money the club has currently.

Let's hope someone non-Chinese wants to buy the club, even Mike Ashley would be a step forward.


At least he speaks English and knows how to run a football club

He ran Newcastle at bare minimum levels, using the club as a billboard for Sports Direct.

Applying the same model would probably see us turned into a Rotherham style Championship/League One yoyo club. I'm not sure why he's being touted as some kind of dream owner.

What he'd get out of the deal is also less clear.

You realise that's an improvement for.us right?

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