The Weakest Link costs us again

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by Don Finch » 17 Jan 2007 12:46

rotherwick_royal Let me be the first to point out the perfect keeper doesn't exist.

Apologies, I know sarcasm is the lowest form of wit but I couldn't help myself. I should have added one of these maybe :wink:

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by Royalee » 17 Jan 2007 14:16

He's done brilliantly for us over the last few years, but this season his handling has deteriorated, he's too slow, gets easily beaten in the air and doesn't distribute it well enough. We need to bring someone in either now or at the end of the season.

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by ScottishRoyal » 17 Jan 2007 14:56

Royalee He's done brilliantly for us over the last few years, but this season his handling has deteriorated, he's too slow, gets easily beaten in the air and doesn't distribute it well enough. We need to bring someone in either now or at the end of the season.


I think i'd agree with those sentiments on the whole, but i'd wait until the end of the season before bringing anyone new in so as not to disrupt the defensive unit.

Keepers get better with age and do peak lsater than most other positions, but then once they've peaked they deterioate rapidly, just like centre backs. Sadly I think it's clear we've started to see this in Hahnemann. His mistake on Sunday was not a one off ut has been happening all season. Some people have argued that he is a 'legend' and that he was part of our 'all-conquering side' last year as though it gives him some devine right to stay in the side, however there is NO place for sentiment in football.

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by Royalee » 17 Jan 2007 14:59

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Royalee He's done brilliantly for us over the last few years, but this season his handling has deteriorated, he's too slow, gets easily beaten in the air and doesn't distribute it well enough. We need to bring someone in either now or at the end of the season.


I think i'd agree with those sentiments on the whole, but i'd wait until the end of the season before bringing anyone new in so as not to disrupt the defensive unit.

Keepers get better with age and do peak lsater than most other positions, but then once they've peaked they deterioate rapidly, just like centre backs. Sadly I think it's clear we've started to see this in Hahnemann. His mistake on Sunday was not a one off ut has been happening all season. Some people have argued that he is a 'legend' and that he was part of our 'all-conquering side' last year as though it gives him some devine right to stay in the side, however there is NO place for sentiment in football.


Spot on.

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by 1947royal » 17 Jan 2007 15:06

With respect Boston Royal,you missed out another of MH's boobs.As with Everton's goal on Saturday I recall he charged out of his goal like a lunatic for Drogbas header at the Bridge.He just never seems to raise his arms above his head.Haviing said that, he has been a 'saviour' on many occasions.


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by SpaceCruiser » 17 Jan 2007 15:09

1947royal With respect Boston Royal,you missed out another of MH's boobs.As with Everton's goal on Saturday I recall he charged out of his goal like a lunatic for Drogbas header at the Bridge.He just never seems to raise his arms above his head.Haviing said that, he has been a 'saviour' on many occasions.


Hey, Hahnemann would have got at that ball if Drogba didn't have his hand on Hahnemann's shirt.

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by Stranded » 17 Jan 2007 15:10

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1947royal With respect Boston Royal,you missed out another of MH's boobs.As with Everton's goal on Saturday I recall he charged out of his goal like a lunatic for Drogbas header at the Bridge.He just never seems to raise his arms above his head.Haviing said that, he has been a 'saviour' on many occasions.


Hey, Hahnemann would have got at that ball if Drogba didn't have his hand on Hahnemann's shirt.


The description sounds more like the 2nd goal.

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by SpaceCruiser » 17 Jan 2007 15:12

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1947royal With respect Boston Royal,you missed out another of MH's boobs.As with Everton's goal on Saturday I recall he charged out of his goal like a lunatic for Drogbas header at the Bridge.He just never seems to raise his arms above his head.Haviing said that, he has been a 'saviour' on many occasions.


Hey, Hahnemann would have got at that ball if Drogba didn't have his hand on Hahnemann's shirt.


The description sounds more like the 2nd goal.


I blamed Sonko for the 2nd one, he was ball-watching and backtracking without checking to see where Drogba was. If he had stuck more closely to Drogba, Drogba would never have had that free header.

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by Royalee » 17 Jan 2007 15:17

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1947royal With respect Boston Royal,you missed out another of MH's boobs.As with Everton's goal on Saturday I recall he charged out of his goal like a lunatic for Drogbas header at the Bridge.He just never seems to raise his arms above his head.Haviing said that, he has been a 'saviour' on many occasions.


Hey, Hahnemann would have got at that ball if Drogba didn't have his hand on Hahnemann's shirt.


He still should've been big and strong enough to at least get something on the ball though for that first goal, although he was obviously being fouled.


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by 1947royal » 17 Jan 2007 15:19

Fair point about the first goal, but I was referring to the second. Alsoo fair point about Sonko's error. My real concern is the fact that does't use his height or long arms .

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by Gordons Cumming » 17 Jan 2007 15:59

Gordons Cumming What a stupid thread.


I agree, but it still continues at break neck rate.......................

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by Corky341 » 17 Jan 2007 16:31

1947royal . My real concern is the fact that does't use his height or long arms .


Perhaps he could slot in with the London Irish forwards when they practise their lineouts now and again. NO goalkeeper should be beaten in a straight jump up should they? The Exiles jumpers may encourage some aggression and dominance in HIS area too.

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by nivek elyod » 17 Jan 2007 17:09

Volvicanus The poorest for me is Lita. I just can't stand him. I know that some people love him, but he's too slow on the ball, his passes are not fast or skillful enough, he thinks he's Ronaldo and loses the ball quite a lot that way.


He does look a little bit lazy, doesn't he (Ronaldo in the World Cup?).


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by RoyalBlue » 17 Jan 2007 19:56

Does anyone else think Marcus is looking a bit heavier than he used to?

IIRC a couple of seasons back the OS ran a story about how he had been put on a weight loss regime and was looking and performing a lot better for it.

Perhaps he's been eating a few too many of Amanda's brownies recently?

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by glass half full » 17 Jan 2007 22:00

Reading EP today, I gathered that Marcus is his own greatest critic and was not happy himself with his role in the Everton goal. We must trust him to work on his game, as I still feel that he is one of the better Premiership goalkeepers. Adam Federici will keep him on his toes!

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by royals pete » 17 Jan 2007 22:25

Wonder what Shay Given feels like tonight !!!! 1...2...3...4...5...

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by glass half full » 17 Jan 2007 22:51

royals pete Wonder what Shay Given feels like tonight !!!! 1...2...3...4...5...


Sick, Pete!

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by alad » 17 Jan 2007 22:52

royals pete Wonder what Shay Given feels like tonight !!!! 1...2...3...4...5...


The difference is he wasn't at fault for any of them, Marcus was at fault for Evertons goal Sunday.

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by Millsy » 17 Jan 2007 23:01

I wonder what it must be like being a keeper....

Get a clean sheet, no-one really praises you.
Be part of one of the best defensive records and you get little praise.
At most you can save a penalty or make an amazing save and people will chant your name for the next 30 seconds.

But god forbid you, like any other human being, make a mistake and you're suddenly in for abuse.

By its very nature goalkeeping gets you little thanks but plenty of abuse when things go wrong.

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by readingbedding » 17 Jan 2007 23:06

2 world wars, 1 world cup I wonder what it must be like being a keeper....

Get a clean sheet, no-one really praises you.
Be part of one of the best defensive records and you get little praise.
At most you can save a penalty or make an amazing save and people will chant your name for the next 30 seconds.

But god forbid you, like any other human being, make a mistake and you're suddenly in for abuse.

By its very nature goalkeeping gets you little thanks but plenty of abuse when things go wrong.


It is true, make a mistake as a keeper, it usually ends up as a goal.

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