Back from the game - Ipswich

[Vision]

like Bikey you mean?!

Indeed.
Before Bikey it was Matejovsky, its even been Lita according to some, now apparently its Karacan!! (actually I'd like to see Karacan and Matejovsky together but then thats just because I'm not overly fussed about promotion and the mix of enthusiastic Academy graduate and cultured passer in the middle of the park is exactly the combination i'd be looking at for the club to progress long term)

[boy1985]

all i'd say is you are on the wrong board my friend.

It's a fans message board and the topic is Reading Football Club and this particular forum is the Team. So I would expect posts to be made about the team and manager. Some will be shite, some will be hmm some may even be good, but that's what this forum is all about. Having an opinion, no matter how daft it is.

Hairy muff, point taken. Although my opinion is that we'd not have won any the recent games no matter what 11 started. We must have used near 20 players in the last few weeks and none of them have performed. No matter what anyone says our best team isn't obvious! Instead of moaning because Coppell hasn't picked the team exactly how you wanted people could try supporting whoever he picks and not get on the backs the minute they make a mistake.

And for people who think fans don't make a difference, why is being at home considered an advantage? Its still a football pitch with a white ball just like the any other pitch, its having 3 quarters of the stadium behind you that changes it. Again I'm not saying the recent performances are down to the fans, because to be honest the atmosphere has been the same most of this season. But at times like this is when the fans can make a difference, and as hard as it is we have gotta get behind them.

[The 17 Bus]

like Bikey you mean?!

Indeed.
Before Bikey it was Matejovsky, its even been Lita according to some, now apparently its Karacan!! (actually I'd like to see Karacan and Matejovsky together but then thats just because I'm not overly fussed about promotion and the mix of enthusiastic Academy graduate and cultured passer in the middle of the park is exactly the combination i'd be looking at for the club to progress long term)

Can you please stop coming on here and talking sense vision.

[boy1985]

like Bikey you mean?!

Indeed.
Before Bikey it was Matejovsky, its even been Lita according to some, now apparently its Karacan!! (actually I'd like to see Karacan and Matejovsky together but then thats just because I'm not overly fussed about promotion and the mix of enthusiastic Academy graduate and cultured passer in the middle of the park is exactly the combination i'd be looking at for the club to progress long term)

That's exactly what I mean, everyone has a different idea of who should be starting and you get a stand full of moaners when inevitably the line up is different to what they hoped for. Then as soon as someone they don't rate makes one mistake they go mental. I'm not saying Coppell is the best manager in the world but he is certainly more qualified than us so I'll just let him do what he's paid for.

[Great Knolly]

We need to just start playing the simple pass. Pass the ball across the back, just to keep it for a bit and reinforce the idea that we can pass the ball !? Keep playing the easy pass until something is on. We're just forcing the ball too much.
It's like watching U11 football. Almost all movement, be it player or ball, seems to be towards the oppo's goal. The one time in the 2nd half when we did pass the ball across the back - about 4 passes - we ended up carving out a decent chance.
In the 1st half Little tapped the ball 5 yrds laterally to Rosenior and we were behind them 2 passes later. Just keep moving the ball on.

Broken record: What is it with Bikey ??!?!?!!!??! This morning, Murty, when asked, just said he is fit, but just isn't in the squad. And then he just said how Bikey was swearing alot in many languages at the game on Saturday. I think Murts was trying to be funny in an attempt to deflect further questions.

[Alan Partridge]

all i'd say is you are on the wrong board my friend.

It's a fans message board and the topic is Reading Football Club and this particular forum is the Team. So I would expect posts to be made about the team and manager. Some will be shite, some will be hmm some may even be good, but that's what this forum is all about. Having an opinion, no matter how daft it is.

Hairy muff, point taken. Although my opinion is that we'd not have won any the recent games no matter what 11 started. We must have used near 20 players in the last few weeks and none of them have performed. No matter what anyone says our best team isn't obvious! Instead of moaning because Coppell hasn't picked the team exactly how you wanted people could try supporting whoever he picks and not get on the backs the minute they make a mistake.

And for people who think fans don't make a difference, why is being at home considered an advantage? Its still a football pitch with a white ball just like the any other pitch, its having 3 quarters of the stadium behind you that changes it. Again I'm not saying the recent performances are down to the fans, because to be honest the atmosphere has been the same most of this season. But at times like this is when the fans can make a difference, and as hard as it is we have gotta get behind them.

What I would say is when the problem was winning away Coppell tried not to mention that it was a problem, just said they prepared the same for every game. Now while I don't doubt the preparation is the same he keeps coming out with things like 'we aren't forceful at home' and 'maybe it's best suited we play away' 'if we concede at home then we struggle' things like this, if you tell people this enough times it can become real. As you say it's the same size pitch, same size goals, same ball why does it make a difference? Mentality. If these players are hearing this then they may well lift their game away from home, 'ahh we're away this week, no pressure' whereas at home they may be thinking oh here we go again.

They should want to play at home, Coppell should want all our remaining games to be at home and while i do agree with you that fans at times can play a part. Especially if things aren't going to well I do think the words from the main man aren't the most inspiring or maybe not the right things to say right now. They have to be stronger and have to have the belief that they are going to win at home, which clearly isn't there at the minute.

As for team selection well your guess is as good as mine, i don't know what our best team is, I don't think Coppell does. I think there are other options he could try but I don't think they would make the mass of difference that others think. An example of this was that someone other than Lita should play, we scored and it was suddenly because he didn't play, I don't think it made a great deal of difference,highlighted by our last two games at home. They are all much of a muchness in our squad. We could play Karacan but is he any better than Harper or Cisse? Maybe, maybe not. Is Noel Hunt that much better than Long, Lita or Kitson? Maybe, Maybe not. There's very little between any of them. That's what makes it hard for Coppell to pick a 'best XI'.

[boy1985]

all i'd say is you are on the wrong board my friend.

It's a fans message board and the topic is Reading Football Club and this particular forum is the Team. So I would expect posts to be made about the team and manager. Some will be shite, some will be hmm some may even be good, but that's what this forum is all about. Having an opinion, no matter how daft it is.

Hairy muff, point taken. Although my opinion is that we'd not have won any the recent games no matter what 11 started. We must have used near 20 players in the last few weeks and none of them have performed. No matter what anyone says our best team isn't obvious! Instead of moaning because Coppell hasn't picked the team exactly how you wanted people could try supporting whoever he picks and not get on the backs the minute they make a mistake.

And for people who think fans don't make a difference, why is being at home considered an advantage? Its still a football pitch with a white ball just like the any other pitch, its having 3 quarters of the stadium behind you that changes it. Again I'm not saying the recent performances are down to the fans, because to be honest the atmosphere has been the same most of this season. But at times like this is when the fans can make a difference, and as hard as it is we have gotta get behind them.

What I would say is when the problem was winning away Coppell tried not to mention that it was a problem, just said they prepared the same for every game. Now while I don't doubt the preparation is the same he keeps coming out with things like 'we aren't forceful at home' and 'maybe it's best suited we play away' 'if we concede at home then we struggle' things like this, if you tell people this enough times it can become real. As you say it's the same size pitch, same size goals, same ball why does it make a difference? Mentality. If these players are hearing this then they may well lift their game away from home, 'ahh we're away this week, no pressure' whereas at home they may be thinking oh here we go again.

They should want to play at home, Coppell should want all our remaining games to be at home and while i do agree with you that fans at times can play a part. Especially if things aren't going to well I do think the words from the main man aren't the most inspiring or maybe not the right things to say right now. They have to be stronger and have to have the belief that they are going to win at home, which clearly isn't there at the minute.

As for team selection well your guess is as good as mine, i don't know what our best team is, I don't think Coppell does. I think there are other options he could try but I don't think they would make the mass of difference that others think. An example of this was that someone other than Lita should play, we scored and it was suddenly because he didn't play, I don't think it made a great deal of difference,highlighted by our last two games at home. They are all much of a muchness in our squad. We could play Karacan but is he any better than Harper or Cisse? Maybe, maybe not. Is Noel Hunt that much better than Long, Lita or Kitson? Maybe, Maybe not. There's very little between any of them. That's what makes it hard for Coppell to pick a 'best XI'.

Agreeeeed. That's basically the point i was trying to make but better put.

[Vision]

like Bikey you mean?!

Indeed.
Before Bikey it was Matejovsky, its even been Lita according to some, now apparently its Karacan!! (actually I'd like to see Karacan and Matejovsky together but then thats just because I'm not overly fussed about promotion and the mix of enthusiastic Academy graduate and cultured passer in the middle of the park is exactly the combination i'd be looking at for the club to progress long term)

That's exactly what I mean, everyone has a different idea of who should be starting and you get a stand full of moaners when inevitably the line up is different to what they hoped for. Then as soon as someone they don't rate makes one mistake they go mental. I'm not saying Coppell is the best manager in the world but he is certainly more qualified than us so I'll just let him do what he's paid for.

To be fair though despite the myriad of opinions , systems and possible options that make up the Team Board I don't think anyone one came up with the team Coppell did on Saturday.

[loyalroyal4life]

i thought 1st half we were passing the ball around well, quick 1 touch passing that looked slick and had ipswich running around. Problem was this lasted for 30 mins max

On a brighter note harper hit a pass more than 2 yards across field and it went to intended target

[Sarah Star]

i thought 1st half we were passing the ball around well, quick 1 touch passing that looked slick and had ipswich running around. Problem was this lasted for 30 mins max

On a brighter note harper hit a pass more than 2 yards across field and it went to intended target

Yeah! Why did it last for 30 minutes max? That was before the goal. What happened?

[Schards#2]

i thought 1st half we were passing the ball around well, quick 1 touch passing that looked slick and had ipswich running around. Problem was this lasted for 30 mins max

On a brighter note harper hit a pass more than 2 yards across field and it went to intended target

Yeah! Why did it last for 30 minutes max? That was before the goal. What happened?

It's a confidence thing.

After 20-30 minutes without scoring, they start feeling nervous and the crowd start getting restless in a way that wouldn't happen if we weren't in the sort of run we are currently in. As a result they start taking the safer options, the performance deteriorates, te crowd get more anxious and so on and so on.

I'm pretty sure, had we maintained the performance in the first twenty for the full 90, we'd have won. The same goes for the Forest game.

[CMRoyal]

i thought 1st half we were passing the ball around well, quick 1 touch passing that looked slick and had ipswich running around. Problem was this lasted for 30 mins max

On a brighter note harper hit a pass more than 2 yards across field and it went to intended target

Yeah! Why did it last for 30 minutes max? That was before the goal. What happened?

It's a confidence thing.

After 20-30 minutes without scoring, they start feeling nervous and the crowd start getting restless in a way that wouldn't happen if we weren't in the sort of run we are currently in. As a result they start taking the safer options, the performance deteriorates, te crowd get more anxious and so on and so on.

I'm pretty sure, had we maintained the performance in the first twenty for the full 90, we'd have won. The same goes for the Forest game.

Agreed. Echoes of last season in all of that, and maybe playing away more than at home is a bonus in that respect?

[Terminal Boardom]

I don't think that you can point the finger solely at confidence. Yes it plays a part but there is more to it than that.

I would suggest that what we have are a bunch of fancy dans who believe they are better than what they really are. This would be what Alan Curbishley described as the Baby Bentley Brigade after we gubbed wet spam 6-0. Unfortunately, the management team have done nothing to dispell this attitude.

Well, my message to them is pure and simple. If they were good enough for the Premier League, we would not have got relegated last season.

[Sarah Star]

i thought 1st half we were passing the ball around well, quick 1 touch passing that looked slick and had ipswich running around. Problem was this lasted for 30 mins max

On a brighter note harper hit a pass more than 2 yards across field and it went to intended target

Yeah! Why did it last for 30 minutes max? That was before the goal. What happened?

It's a confidence thing.

After 20-30 minutes without scoring, they start feeling nervous and the crowd start getting restless in a way that wouldn't happen if we weren't in the sort of run we are currently in. As a result they start taking the safer options, the performance deteriorates, te crowd get more anxious and so on and so on.

I'm pretty sure, had we maintained the performance in the first twenty for the full 90, we'd have won. The same goes for the Forest game.

Agreed. Echoes of last season in all of that, and maybe playing away more than at home is a bonus in that respect?

So maybe as a crowd we have to share the blame for the result then.

[sam1]

Yes, shame on us for buying season tickets and going quiet when we're playing crap

[Gordons Cumming]

The reason we got relegated, and the reason we are playing crap now is due solely to our ball retention.

That is all.

[sam1]

The reason we got relegated, and the reason we are playing crap now is due solely to our ball retention.

That is all.

'greed.

[SteveRoyal]

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[brendywendy]

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