Last Chance For Lita?

[Uke]

Erm, you realise that one of Long's goals was a freak accident that came off his back? Take that one away and Long's basically the same as Lita, one goal.

Its all about positioning though.

Ask Trevor Senior

[Gordons Cumming]

Erm, you realise that one of Long's goals was a freak accident that came off his back? Take that one away and Long's basically the same as Lita, one goal.

The difference between the 2 is that Long is a good, hardworking, nice bloke and Lita isn't.

[Yorkshire Royal]

The difference between the 2 is that Long is a good, hardworking, nice bloke and Lita isn't.

Cause obviously you have met them both and based that view on a lifetime of friendship?

[Vision]

To be honest i can't believe all of this is being discussed all over again on the basis of what is frankly a non-incident. Whilst some of Lita's previous may have been a little unsavoury (although most of it isn't really as bad as some are making out) a Premiership footballer giving it the "do you know who i am" routine after being a bit boisterous in a nightclub is hardly worth castigating the bloke for. He's far from alone amongst our current squad (not to mention Reading players of the 30 odd years i've been following the club) in using his status for a bit of preferential treatment.

As far as i can see, he was dropped and left out of the squad after missing chances against Newcastle but has clearly shown something to Coppell in the last couple of weeks in training and reserve games to regain a place on the bench. Nothing more than that really.

[brendywendy]

To be honest i can't believe all of this is being discussed all over again on the basis of what is frankly a non-incident. Whilst some of Lita's previous may have been a little unsavoury (although most of it isn't really as bad as some are making out) a Premiership footballer giving it the "do you know who i am" routine after being a bit boisterous in a nightclub is hardly worth castigating the bloke for. He's far from alone amongst our current squad (not to mention Reading players of the 30 odd years i've been following the club) in using his status for a bit of preferential treatment.

As far as i can see, he was dropped and left out of the squad after missing chances against Newcastle but has clearly shown something to Coppell in the last couple of weeks in training and reserve games to regain a place on the bench. Nothing more than that really.

i concur 100%
that should really end the debate quite succinctly

bt it wont you know

[Old Biscuitman]

Unintentionally I often seem to be a great thread closer-offer, so that's it for this one then. Oh, incidentally my jury is still out on Lita, but I do have concerns. Line drawn now.

[Gordons Cumming]

The difference between the 2 is that Long is a good, hardworking, nice bloke and Lita isn't.

Cause obviously you have met them both and based that view on a lifetime of friendship?

I have met both of them actually.

So there.

[West Stand Flash]

Erm, you realise that one of Long's goals was a freak accident that came off his back? Take that one away and Long's basically the same as Lita, one goal.

The difference between the 2 is that Long is a good, hardworking, nice bloke and Lita isn't.

Lita is better than Long. A lot better...!!!

[biscuitsrus]

Can we please have the Leroy back that buried Citeh last year.

[Woodcote Royal]

To be honest i can't believe all of this is being discussed all over again on the basis of what is frankly a non-incident.

Perhaps it's because this represents one of many "non-incidents" regarding the same player that reflects badly on both his club and fellow squad members, the vast majority of whom have shown nothing but exemplary professional conduct off the pitch.

Whilst the likes of Convey and Kitson get national coverage for visiting sick kids in hospital (and on a regular basis, too, not just one offs) Lita drags the good name of this club through the dirt time and again.

As others have said, everyone can overlook the odd incident from a young player caught in the limelight but it's now gone far beyond that in Lita's case.

I'm firmly in the camp with WCH and others who would still find his persistantly poor conduct totally unacceptable even if he was hitting the back of the net for fun..............................and the fact that he isn't should make his departure a no-brainer for a long suffering manager.

[brendywendy]

To be honest i can't believe all of this is being discussed all over again on the basis of what is frankly a non-incident.

Perhaps it's because this represents one of many "non-incidents" regarding the same player that reflects badly on both his club and fellow squad members, the vast majority of whom have shown nothing but exemplary professional conduct off the pitch.

Whilst the likes of Convey and Kitson get national coverage for visiting sick kids in hospital (and on a regular basis, too, not just one offs) Lita drags the good name of this club through the dirt time and again.

As others have said, everyone can overlook the odd incident from a young player caught in the limelight but it's now gone far beyond that in Lita's case.

I'm firmly in the camp with WCH and others who would still find his persistantly poor conduct totally unacceptable even if he was hitting the back of the net for fun..............................and the fact that he isn't should make his departure a no-brainer for a long suffering manager.

conversely
i am a pretty well educated, well rounded person, in a decent job, with a nice girlfriend, and a lead a generally good life.
in my 20's i was hit by someone else on a night out, more than once, having done nothing to provoke it.
have been thrown out of a pub/nightclub/train station for being a little worse for wear.
and have blabbed my mouth off to friends about sexual conquests

does this make me the social/proffessional pariah that you would make of leroy?
has it had any effect on my career, or my day to day working, or attitude?

nope

[Royal Rother]

Well said Woodcote. He is like a bloody sore thumb.

[Yorkshire Royal]

Twat

[Woodcote Royal]

To be honest i can't believe all of this is being discussed all over again on the basis of what is frankly a non-incident.

Perhaps it's because this represents one of many "non-incidents" regarding the same player that reflects badly on both his club and fellow squad members, the vast majority of whom have shown nothing but exemplary professional conduct off the pitch.

Whilst the likes of Convey and Kitson get national coverage for visiting sick kids in hospital (and on a regular basis, too, not just one offs) Lita drags the good name of this club through the dirt time and again.

As others have said, everyone can overlook the odd incident from a young player caught in the limelight but it's now gone far beyond that in Lita's case.

I'm firmly in the camp with WCH and others who would still find his persistantly poor conduct totally unacceptable even if he was hitting the back of the net for fun..............................and the fact that he isn't should make his departure a no-brainer for a long suffering manager.

conversely
i am a pretty well educated, well rounded person, in a decent job, with a nice girlfriend, and a lead a generally good life.
in my 20's i was hit by someone else on a night out, more than once, having done nothing to provoke it.
have been thrown out of a pub/nightclub/train station for being a little worse for wear.
and have blabbed my mouth off to friends about sexual conquests

does this make me the social/proffessional pariah that you would make of leroy?
has it had any effect on my career, or my day to day working, or attitude?

nope

Nope, it just makes you politically naive if you seriously believe that you're poor conduct can be viewed in the same light as that from a highly paid footballer who, by definition, represents his club as well as himself when in the public domain.

[Gordons Cumming]

Erm, you realise that one of Long's goals was a freak accident that came off his back? Take that one away and Long's basically the same as Lita, one goal.

The difference between the 2 is that Long is a good, hardworking, nice bloke and Lita isn't.

Lita is better than Long. A lot better...!!!

At what?

[SpaceCruiser]

Erm, you realise that one of Long's goals was a freak accident that came off his back? Take that one away and Long's basically the same as Lita, one goal.

The difference between the 2 is that Long is a good, hardworking, nice bloke and Lita isn't.

Lita is better than Long. A lot better...!!!

At what?

Scoring goals.

Shane Long has only scored 10 goals in his Reading career, whereas Lita has scored 27 goals. They both have been at the club over the same period.

[Yorkshire Royal]

Nope, it just makes you politically naive if you think you're poor conduct can be viewed in the same light as that from a highly paid footballer who, by definition ,represents his club as well as himself when in the publuc domain.

I wasn't talking to you... Although to be fair, you do sound a bit ghey to me... politically naive? It's a fukking football team... For crying out loud.. You actually make me want to cry. Joey Barton.. now there's a disgrace.. still gets picked for Newcastle... George Best.. womanising drinker.. now dead... Still got picked for utd.. Christiano ronaldo shagged some whores... double page spread in NOTW.. still gets picked for UTD. It's irrelevant.. It's a business. Lita is in the business of scoring goals. Clearly not very good at it this year, so is not being picked. If he gets sold, then it is because of this. Not because of his being punched, being arrested of filming shagging a bird. He is not an "ambassador" for the club... nor Reading... Fukk me, if I was a player, I would hate to join Reading with a bunch of queers like you supporting them...

[Old Biscuitman]

Unintentionally I often seem to be a great thread closer-offer, so that's it for this one then. Oh, incidentally my jury is still out on Lita, but I do have concerns. Line drawn now.

Well, that didn't close it. On the basis of if you can't beat them, join them, I'll continue. With regard to the references earlier in the thread to John Terry, I see that the FA are questioning whether he should remain as England captain because of his off-field behaviour, poor image and role model etc.

[Woodcote Royal]

Nope, it just makes you politically naive if you think you're poor conduct can be viewed in the same light as that from a highly paid footballer who, by definition ,represents his club as well as himself when in the publuc domain.

I wasn't talking to you... Although to be fair, you do sound a bit ghey to me... politically naive? It's a fukking football team... For crying out loud.. You actually make me want to cry. Joey Barton.. now there's a disgrace.. still gets picked for Newcastle... George Best.. womanising drinker.. now dead... Still got picked for utd.. Christiano ronaldo shagged some whores... double page spread in NOTW.. still gets picked for UTD. It's irrelevant.. It's a business. Lita is in the business of scoring goals. Clearly not very good at it this year, so is not being picked. If he gets sold, then it is because of this. Not because of his being punched, being arrested of filming shagging a bird. He is not an "ambassador" for the club... nor Reading... Fukk me, if I was a player, I would hate to join Reading with a bunch of queers like you supporting them...

More politically naive garbage from someone who needs to grow up before taking part in grown up debates.

[Vision]

To be honest i can't believe all of this is being discussed all over again on the basis of what is frankly a non-incident.

Perhaps it's because this represents one of many "non-incidents" regarding the same player that reflects badly on both his club and fellow squad members, the vast majority of whom have shown nothing but exemplary professional conduct off the pitch.

Whilst the likes of Convey and Kitson get national coverage for visiting sick kids in hospital (and on a regular basis, too, not just one offs) Lita drags the good name of this club through the dirt time and again.

As others have said, everyone can overlook the odd incident from a young player caught in the limelight but it's now gone far beyond that in Lita's case.

I'm firmly in the camp with WCH and others who would still find his persistantly poor conduct totally unacceptable even if he was hitting the back of the net for fun..............................and the fact that he isn't should make his departure a no-brainer for a long suffering manager.

But thats the point. If you look at it , it is just the odd incident from a young player caught in the limelight. One of which he was the actual victim of an assault and the latest story is one which happens in every town every weekend of the year and is nothing that i've not seen countless Reading players do over the course of the years. Including several of our current squad.

Which leaves us with the headbutting incident (for which no charges were brought) which occurred very shortly after his arrival here and the admittedly unpleasant sex-filming episode although even that only became public knowledge because one of his "exemplory professional teammates" decided to pass on to all and sundry.

If he was running amok ala the likes of Woodgate, Bowyer and Bellamy then i might just think you have a point but as it stands it seems to me hysterical overreaction by people who don't rate him as a player.