by LoyalRoyalFan » 23 Nov 2013 19:16
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by sandman » 23 Nov 2013 20:11
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by Hampshire Royal » 23 Nov 2013 21:00
by Stevie G » 23 Nov 2013 21:01
by Royalee » 23 Nov 2013 21:17
sandman Simples really he was flavour of the month so got the Liverpool job on the back of his work at Swansea, not that he had to much work at Swansea because the club was tailor made for him thanks to Martinez and he's managing a top 6 team because A. the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson has had a big effect on the stability of the established order in the PL and B. His team have only really beaten one of the teams around them, Man United when they were smack bang in the process of recovering from Ferguson retiring. The rest of their big games they've either lost or drawn Arsenal, Southampton and Everton so basically they are flat track bullies chewing up the likes of Sunderland and Crystal Palace.
Some people fit at certain clubs Rodgers in theory should have fitted in at Reading, having been here from a young age. His problem was that he went to Chelsea and became Mr Billy Big Bollocks so when he came back he was a pompous, Mourinho light, d1ck who spouted shit about "World class models" and "Skilful Soldiers". We were right to sack him because he and his personality didn't fit in here same as Adkins and his personality doesn't fit in here.
It might be frustrating for people on HNA? who want Reading to follow the crowd and be like whichever club and style of play is in fashion but there is a Reading way whether you like it or not. That way is a club that spent most of it's time bumping along in the bottom two divisions and has understatedly and sensibly grown and outperformed "bigger clubs" in the same division over the last decade plus. That means we suit managers like Steve Coppell and Brian McDermott who are sensible and understated. You might be frustrated with it and it may not be glamorous but that is just the way it is.
by Royalee » 23 Nov 2013 21:18
Hampshire Royal So how did Swansea change from being bottom of the league to top half of the top division in the matter of 10 years without changing the old 'Swansea Way'?
by Avon Royal » 23 Nov 2013 21:19
sandman Simples really he was flavour of the month so got the Liverpool job on the back of his work at Swansea, not that he had to much work at Swansea because the club was tailor made for him thanks to Martinez and he's managing a top 6 team because A. the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson has had a big effect on the stability of the established order in the PL and B. His team have only really beaten one of the teams around them, Man United when they were smack bang in the process of recovering from Ferguson retiring. The rest of their big games they've either lost or drawn Arsenal, Southampton and Everton so basically they are flat track bullies chewing up the likes of Sunderland and Crystal Palace.
Some people fit at certain clubs Rodgers in theory should have fitted in at Reading, having been here from a young age. His problem was that he went to Chelsea and became Mr Billy Big Bollocks so when he came back he was a pompous, Mourinho light, d1ck who spouted shit about "World class models" and "Skilful Soldiers". We were right to sack him because he and his personality didn't fit in here same as Adkins and his personality doesn't fit in here.
It might be frustrating for people on HNA? who want Reading to follow the crowd and be like whichever club and style of play is in fashion but there is a Reading way whether you like it or not. That way is a club that spent most of it's time bumping along in the bottom two divisions and has understatedly and sensibly grown and outperformed "bigger clubs" in the same division over the last decade plus. That means we suit managers like Steve Coppell and Brian McDermott who are sensible and understated. You might be frustrated with it and it may not be glamorous but that is just the way it is.
by peterroyal76 » 23 Nov 2013 21:22
Royaleesandman Simples really he was flavour of the month so got the Liverpool job on the back of his work at Swansea, not that he had to much work at Swansea because the club was tailor made for him thanks to Martinez and he's managing a top 6 team because A. the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson has had a big effect on the stability of the established order in the PL and B. His team have only really beaten one of the teams around them, Man United when they were smack bang in the process of recovering from Ferguson retiring. The rest of their big games they've either lost or drawn Arsenal, Southampton and Everton so basically they are flat track bullies chewing up the likes of Sunderland and Crystal Palace.
Some people fit at certain clubs Rodgers in theory should have fitted in at Reading, having been here from a young age. His problem was that he went to Chelsea and became Mr Billy Big Bollocks so when he came back he was a pompous, Mourinho light, d1ck who spouted shit about "World class models" and "Skilful Soldiers". We were right to sack him because he and his personality didn't fit in here same as Adkins and his personality doesn't fit in here.
It might be frustrating for people on HNA? who want Reading to follow the crowd and be like whichever club and style of play is in fashion but there is a Reading way whether you like it or not. That way is a club that spent most of it's time bumping along in the bottom two divisions and has understatedly and sensibly grown and outperformed "bigger clubs" in the same division over the last decade plus. That means we suit managers like Steve Coppell and Brian McDermott who are sensible and understated. You might be frustrated with it and it may not be glamorous but that is just the way it is.
Were Pardew and McGhee understated? Liverpool appointed Rodgers after he guided a team who'd never qualified for the playoffs previously to promotion at our expense before doing what McDermott and Coppell couldn't and consolidating a team in the Premier League.
The same tossers who wanted Rodgers sacked early when he was trying to change a style of football are the ones who never learn and want Adkins out before he's had time to change the team to his own. It's funny you mention Sir Alex, as he wasn't an introvert by any means and struggled during his early days - delinquents like sandman would have wanted him sacked for showing a personality rather than going on to achieve what he did after he was given the time to bring his own team in and move things on from stone-age football.
by Royalee » 23 Nov 2013 21:24
by peterroyal76 » 23 Nov 2013 21:32
Royalee No, just stating that managers need time to change a style of football and using the most obvious example there is - feel free to sensationalise it and imply I think either are automatically on par with the best manager of a generation.
by AirRaidSiren » 23 Nov 2013 21:48
peterroyal76Royalee No, just stating that managers need time to change a style of football and using the most obvious example there is - feel free to sensationalise it and imply I think either are automatically on par with the best manager of a generation.
I think you would probably put them with God to be honest.
For the record I think we need to back Adkins, whether getting rid of Brian was the right idea or not. I believe Nigel will succeed given time.
by AthleticoSpizz » 23 Nov 2013 21:50
by loyalroyal4life » 23 Nov 2013 21:51
peterroyal76Royalee No, just stating that managers need time to change a style of football and using the most obvious example there is - feel free to sensationalise it and imply I think either are automatically on par with the best manager of a generation.
I think you would probably put them with God to be honest.
For the record I think we need to back Adkins, whether getting rid of Brian was the right idea or not. I believe Nigel will succeed given time.
by AthleticoSpizz » 23 Nov 2013 21:52
by Pandoras Box » 24 Nov 2013 07:01
by Man Friday » 24 Nov 2013 11:43
RoyaleeHampshire Royal So how did Swansea change from being bottom of the league to top half of the top division in the matter of 10 years without changing the old 'Swansea Way'?
Because sandman's an utter spastic, that's why.
by Man Friday » 24 Nov 2013 11:45
Pandoras Box McD is going to get a nasty taste of deja vu. If Leeds go up there is plenty of money waiting to be invested (with real money, unlike the invisible man's) and they will want prem style football and real results for that investment. He'll be out before Xmas next year.
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