MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (h)

[windermereROYAL]

Does Hoilett stay in the side over Ince?.

He should stay in the side at the expense of Ejaria. He's a lazy luxury we can do without.

The lazy luxury that put in the great tackle in the corner in front of the ED stand or the tackle where he could have got a red card you mean?

[Millsy]

Does Hoilett stay in the side over Ince?.

He should stay in the side at the expense of Ejaria. He's a lazy luxury we can do without.

The lazy luxury that put in the great tackle in the corner in front of the ED stand or the tackle where he could have got a red card you mean?

Exactly, his defensive efforts often get overlooked, and I have no idea what BBRC were on about but he was a massive threat the whole of the first half, did as much good as he did bad. But overall was just not at his best and injuring that poor lad obviously affected Ejaria too, as it rightly should have and he fell to pieces giving the ball away several times. A rest is probably good for him, but he's definitely not a "lazy luxury", he is a key part of our gameplan.

[NathStPaul]

He should be sold at the earliest opportunity. The Ejaria fanboys are exactly who you'd think they'd be...

[Hound]

He should be sold at the earliest opportunity. The Ejaria fanboys are exactly who you'd think they'd be...

You sound like karbota

He clearly adds plenty to the side - granted sounds like he had a shit game last night and was rightly pulled

[NathStPaul]

He should be sold at the earliest opportunity. The Ejaria fanboys are exactly who you'd think they'd be...

You sound like karbota

He clearly adds plenty to the side - granted sounds like he had a shit game last night and was rightly pulled

I'd argue you are the racist if you think my comment has anything to do with him being black. It has everything to do with him not being a good fit for our club at this moment in time and due to him being sulky and workshy.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

He should be sold at the earliest opportunity. The Ejaria fanboys are exactly who you'd think they'd be...

You sound like karbota

He clearly adds plenty to the side - granted sounds like he had a shit game last night and was rightly pulled

It has everything to do with him not being a good fit for our club at this moment in time and due to him being sulky and workshy.

Or is it more to do with you misinterpret what he does for the side because you think of what he "could" do for the side?

Don't get me wrong, his end product has been disappointing the last couple of games, but that's precisely why he is playing where he is right now, if his end product was better, we wouldn't have him. He brings a lot to our defensive structure as well as the transitional side of the game as well where he can keep hold of the ball, draw fouls and attract opposition players etc.

[NathStPaul]

Not to mention the rumoured trouble making behind the scenes. Is that what we really need next season? We will likely have a very small squad, a lot of young players. I am not sure he has the sort of attitude required to be a positive influence.

[Whore Jackie]

Plenty of things you can label Ejaria with, but not sure workshy is remotely true. Frustrates the hell out of me, but we generally look a better side with him involved.

Thought he was excellent for the first 10, but then properly faded away once we'd scored, and was rightly subbed. Agree with all the praise for Yiadom and Drinkwater. The former looks nailed on for Player of the Season IMO. Thought Azeez and TDB were excellent too, TBD in particular was magnificent for the last 10.

[Snowflake Royal]

We don't really do bftg threads anymore so I'll put my ratings here

Nyland - 5 some routine saves and much improved kicking but an absolute howler for the goal
Yiadom - 9 MotM crossing is terrible but he was absolutely immense through the first two thirds the entire match, winning everything, beating his man, linking up
McIntyre - 7 he's a real defender first and foremost and adds a lot to defending high balls. Not a natural LB
Morrison - 8 scored for a bonus point, otherwise generally solid
Holmes - 8 another improved performance from Holmes, won a lot
Laurent - 6 quiet game by his standards but didn’t do a lot wrong
Drinkwater - 7 another good performance, not quite at the level of Saturday, but much more what we should have seen all season
Swift - 6 quiet again. Some magic, but hasn't really clicked recently, thought he got better going forward on the left, but was lacking a bit defensively
Ejaria - 4 terrible performance lifted by one great tackle. Mindless petulant nasty challenge to injure someone and then totally unacceptable play to gift Stoke attacks twice in as many minutes. Kept falling over, overplaying and losing the ball. On multiple occasions lost it and then just stood and watched as someone ran away from him into space
Hoilett - 8 brilliant wing play and crossing
Joao - 5 seems to be completely bypassed and isn't forcing himself into the game or making good decisions, runs or touches when he gets the chance, lucky his wayward header bounced in off a defender for an OG.

Dele-Bashiru - 7 good running, workrate and contribution
Azeez - 6 one better contact away from an assist, looks very promising, but less involved than TDB

Ince - 8 got them fitter, keeping their heads up, better organised. Good subs, but Ovie should have come off at HT.

[Weymouth Royal]

Does Hoilett stay in the side over Ince?.

He should stay in the side at the expense of Ejaria. He's a lazy luxury we can do without.

The lazy luxury that put in the great tackle in the corner in front of the ED stand or the tackle where he could have got a red card you mean?

Yeah, that one. He doesn't do that nearly enough. He's lazy. He's a luxury. He was terrible last night but for that one moment!

[Snowflake Royal]

He should stay in the side at the expense of Ejaria. He's a lazy luxury we can do without.

The lazy luxury that put in the great tackle in the corner in front of the ED stand or the tackle where he could have got a red card you mean?

Yeah, that one. He doesn't do that nearly enough. He's lazy. He's a luxury. He was terrible last night but for that one moment!

I don't think he's lazy. I do think he's probably both the stupidest and sulkyiest player in the squad though.

[Millsy]

We don't really do bftg threads anymore so I'll put my ratings here

Nyland - 5 some routine saves and much improved kicking but an absolute howler for the goal
Yiadom - 9 MotM crossing is terrible but he was absolutely immense through the first two thirds the entire match, winning everything, beating his man, linking up
McIntyre - 7 he's a real defender first and foremost and adds a lot to defending high balls. Not a natural LB
Morrison - 8 scored for a bonus point, otherwise generally solid
Holmes - 8 another improved performance from Holmes, won a lot
Laurent - 6 quiet game by his standards but didn’t do a lot wrong
Drinkwater - 7 another good performance, not quite at the level of Saturday, but much more what we should have seen all season
Swift - 6 quiet again. Some magic, but hasn't really clicked recently, thought he got better going forward on the left, but was lacking a bit defensively
Ejaria - 4 terrible performance lifted by one great tackle. Mindless petulant nasty challenge to injure someone and then totally unacceptable play to gift Stoke attacks twice in as many minutes. Kept falling over, overplaying and losing the ball. On multiple occasions lost it and then just stood and watched as someone ran away from him into space
Hoilett - 8 brilliant wing play and crossing
Joao - 5 seems to be completely bypassed and isn't forcing himself into the game or making good decisions, runs or touches when he gets the chance, lucky his wayward header bounced in off a defender for an OG.

Dele-Bashiru - 7 good running, workrate and contribution
Azeez - 6 one better contact away from an assist, looks very promising, but less involved than TDB

Ince - 8 got them fitter, keeping their heads up, better organised. Good subs, but Ovie should have come off at HT.

Agree with most of that except...

Would give Nyland no more than a 4. Howler, could have cost us the season. Rafael, Southwood, Hein, Nyland - we're just not very lucky are we.

DW a 9 - very good display. Contender for MOTM for me.

Ejaria a 5 minimum. Not wholly terrible, and utterly unfair to say that one challenge is all he did, he was at the centre of every attack when we were raping Stoke first half, then fell apart after a mishit in one attack lead to him lashing out at the poor chap, and he went downhill from there being rightly booed whenever he touched the ball, but I do appreciate that's a high score for you when it comes to Ejaria.

[Whore Jackie]

No way there's anymore more sulky than Joao. Would properly piss me off playing with someone like Joao, but he actually seems incredibly popular amongst the team.

[Ascotexgunner]

People going on about "that miss" last night. We have missed easier chances than that that has cost us points.
It's one thing that has balanced itself up.

[Snowflake Royal]

We don't really do bftg threads anymore so I'll put my ratings here

Nyland - 5 some routine saves and much improved kicking but an absolute howler for the goal
Yiadom - 9 MotM crossing is terrible but he was absolutely immense through the first two thirds the entire match, winning everything, beating his man, linking up
McIntyre - 7 he's a real defender first and foremost and adds a lot to defending high balls. Not a natural LB
Morrison - 8 scored for a bonus point, otherwise generally solid
Holmes - 8 another improved performance from Holmes, won a lot
Laurent - 6 quiet game by his standards but didn’t do a lot wrong
Drinkwater - 7 another good performance, not quite at the level of Saturday, but much more what we should have seen all season
Swift - 6 quiet again. Some magic, but hasn't really clicked recently, thought he got better going forward on the left, but was lacking a bit defensively
Ejaria - 4 terrible performance lifted by one great tackle. Mindless petulant nasty challenge to injure someone and then totally unacceptable play to gift Stoke attacks twice in as many minutes. Kept falling over, overplaying and losing the ball. On multiple occasions lost it and then just stood and watched as someone ran away from him into space
Hoilett - 8 brilliant wing play and crossing
Joao - 5 seems to be completely bypassed and isn't forcing himself into the game or making good decisions, runs or touches when he gets the chance, lucky his wayward header bounced in off a defender for an OG.

Dele-Bashiru - 7 good running, workrate and contribution
Azeez - 6 one better contact away from an assist, looks very promising, but less involved than TDB

Ince - 8 got them fitter, keeping their heads up, better organised. Good subs, but Ovie should have come off at HT.

Agree with most of that except...

Would give Nyland no more than a 4. Howler, could have cost us the season. Rafael, Southwood, Hein, Nyland - we're just not very lucky are we.

DW a 9 - very good display. Contender for MOTM for me.

Ejaria a 5 minimum. Not wholly terrible, and utterly unfair to say that one challenge is all he did, he was at the centre of every attack when we were raping Stoke first half, then fell apart after a mishit in one attack lead to him lashing out at the poor chap, and he went downhill from there being rightly booed whenever he touched the ball, but I do appreciate that's a high score for you when it comes to Ejaria.

Nyland and Ejaria are both one higher than I was inclined to give them as a sop to their fans throwing tantrums about it.

Ejaria would already be out the door based on that spell of challenge and two Stoke gifts alone if it was up to me.

[Zip]

I would like to see Hoilett at the club next season. Been impressed with him since he joined. He made a big contribution last night. An assist with a perfectly weighted cross for Morrison and brilliant work to chase down the defender, win the tackle, beat the player and then get pulled back by him. From the resulting free-kick we won a corner. From the corner we scored. It started with Hoilett’s work.

[Orion1871]

We don't really do bftg threads anymore so I'll put my ratings here

Nyland - 5 some routine saves and much improved kicking but an absolute howler for the goal
Yiadom - 9 MotM crossing is terrible but he was absolutely immense through the first two thirds the entire match, winning everything, beating his man, linking up
McIntyre - 7 he's a real defender first and foremost and adds a lot to defending high balls. Not a natural LB
Morrison - 8 scored for a bonus point, otherwise generally solid
Holmes - 8 another improved performance from Holmes, won a lot
Laurent - 6 quiet game by his standards but didn’t do a lot wrong
Drinkwater - 7 another good performance, not quite at the level of Saturday, but much more what we should have seen all season
Swift - 6 quiet again. Some magic, but hasn't really clicked recently, thought he got better going forward on the left, but was lacking a bit defensively
Ejaria - 4 terrible performance lifted by one great tackle. Mindless petulant nasty challenge to injure someone and then totally unacceptable play to gift Stoke attacks twice in as many minutes. Kept falling over, overplaying and losing the ball. On multiple occasions lost it and then just stood and watched as someone ran away from him into space
Hoilett - 8 brilliant wing play and crossing
Joao - 5 seems to be completely bypassed and isn't forcing himself into the game or making good decisions, runs or touches when he gets the chance, lucky his wayward header bounced in off a defender for an OG.

Dele-Bashiru - 7 good running, workrate and contribution
Azeez - 6 one better contact away from an assist, looks very promising, but less involved than TDB

Ince - 8 got them fitter, keeping their heads up, better organised. Good subs, but Ovie should have come off at HT.

Agree with most of that except...

Would give Nyland no more than a 4. Howler, could have cost us the season. Rafael, Southwood, Hein, Nyland - we're just not very lucky are we.

DW a 9 - very good display. Contender for MOTM for me.

Ejaria a 5 minimum. Not wholly terrible, and utterly unfair to say that one challenge is all he did, he was at the centre of every attack when we were raping Stoke first half, then fell apart after a mishit in one attack lead to him lashing out at the poor chap, and he went downhill from there being rightly booed whenever he touched the ball, but I do appreciate that's a high score for you when it comes to Ejaria.

Surely you could you have come up with a better description than that.

[Millsy]

We don't really do bftg threads anymore so I'll put my ratings here

Nyland - 5 some routine saves and much improved kicking but an absolute howler for the goal
Yiadom - 9 MotM crossing is terrible but he was absolutely immense through the first two thirds the entire match, winning everything, beating his man, linking up
McIntyre - 7 he's a real defender first and foremost and adds a lot to defending high balls. Not a natural LB
Morrison - 8 scored for a bonus point, otherwise generally solid
Holmes - 8 another improved performance from Holmes, won a lot
Laurent - 6 quiet game by his standards but didn’t do a lot wrong
Drinkwater - 7 another good performance, not quite at the level of Saturday, but much more what we should have seen all season
Swift - 6 quiet again. Some magic, but hasn't really clicked recently, thought he got better going forward on the left, but was lacking a bit defensively
Ejaria - 4 terrible performance lifted by one great tackle. Mindless petulant nasty challenge to injure someone and then totally unacceptable play to gift Stoke attacks twice in as many minutes. Kept falling over, overplaying and losing the ball. On multiple occasions lost it and then just stood and watched as someone ran away from him into space
Hoilett - 8 brilliant wing play and crossing
Joao - 5 seems to be completely bypassed and isn't forcing himself into the game or making good decisions, runs or touches when he gets the chance, lucky his wayward header bounced in off a defender for an OG.

Dele-Bashiru - 7 good running, workrate and contribution
Azeez - 6 one better contact away from an assist, looks very promising, but less involved than TDB

Ince - 8 got them fitter, keeping their heads up, better organised. Good subs, but Ovie should have come off at HT.

Agree with most of that except...

Would give Nyland no more than a 4. Howler, could have cost us the season. Rafael, Southwood, Hein, Nyland - we're just not very lucky are we.

DW a 9 - very good display. Contender for MOTM for me.

Ejaria a 5 minimum. Not wholly terrible, and utterly unfair to say that one challenge is all he did, he was at the centre of every attack when we were raping Stoke first half, then fell apart after a mishit in one attack lead to him lashing out at the poor chap, and he went downhill from there being rightly booed whenever he touched the ball, but I do appreciate that's a high score for you when it comes to Ejaria.

Surely you could you have come up with a better description than that.

Surprise sex?

[SCIAG]

Hoilett put in the best performance any of our wide players have put in this season. Haven’t had someone with delivery like that for a long time.

Ovie is our best wide player defensively and it isn’t close, not surprising when you consider he’s a converted midfielder but so is TDB and Ejaria does it better than him. And I’m not just saying that because he’s hot.

Don’t want to see McIntyre at left back any more but it’s Sod’s law that Morrison and Holmes hit form as soon as Rahman gets fit. All the same, I’d drop one of the three. Want a proper left back please.

[Hound]

He should be sold at the earliest opportunity. The Ejaria fanboys are exactly who you'd think they'd be...

You sound like karbota

He clearly adds plenty to the side - granted sounds like he had a shit game last night and was rightly pulled

I'd argue you are the racist if you think my comment has anything to do with him being black. It has everything to do with him not being a good fit for our club at this moment in time and due to him being sulky and workshy.

Didn’t mention anything about race or racism. Just the ‘he must be sold’ and idiotic comment about fanboys