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Re: Mark Bowen

by From Despair To Where? » 16 Jun 2023 12:09

Apologies if the facts don't fit your agenda.

Didn't have you down as one of the prime resident bed wetters. The situation at Rehne bears very little resemblance to us.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 16 Jun 2023 12:16

That is also fact though. We've been punished by the EFL due to our spending, KSV Roselare spent around £10m in the Belgium 2nd division and were dissolved due to financial difficulties and Beijing Renhe also spent heavily and Dai Yongge himself got frustrated at the lack of success in the team. Short-term mentality hoping for instant success and it's failed at all 3 of his clubs.
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Re: Mark Bowen

by leon » 16 Jun 2023 12:17

YorkshireRoyal99 That is also fact though. We've been punished by the EFL due to our spending, KSV Roselare spent around £10m in the Belgium 2nd division and were dissolved due to financial difficulties and Beijing Renhe also spent heavily and Dai Yongge himself got frustrated at the lack of success in the team. Short-term mentality hoping for instant success and it's failed at all 3 of his clubs.


The Chairman is clearly fcuking usless at being a football club owner.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 16 Jun 2023 12:20

From Despair To Where? Apologies if the facts don't fit your agenda.

Didn't have you down as one of the prime resident bed wetters. The situation at Rehne bears very little resemblance to us.


It doesn't overall, but there are very clear similarities between all of his clubs. Not suggesting that means we will go under, because we wouldn't, but we wouldn't because we'd get brought out of administration by someone. Again, not anticipating that will happen because I'd like to think that we'd get sold before that ever became a reality anyway.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by From Despair To Where? » 16 Jun 2023 12:26

YorkshireRoyal99 That is also fact though. We've been punished by the EFL due to our spending, KSV Roselare spent around £10m in the Belgium 2nd division and were dissolved due to financial difficulties and Beijing Renhe also spent heavily and Dai Yongge himself got frustrated at the lack of success in the team. Short-term mentality hoping for instant success and it's failed at all 3 of his clubs.


Our current issues revolve around a failure to stick to regulatory guidelines. Yes, he's made serious errors of judgement and yes, if those guidelines were not there then maybe the situation would be similar but it's still a wild leap and from what I can see is nowhere near as serious as us having to flog players to pay the taxman or securing a £20m loan against future earnings like we did 10 years ago.

Personally I think this should lead onto a redefining of FFP rules, similar to the licencing situation in Italy where every club is subject to analysis of its spending and has to provide proof of funding to compete. FFP should be proactive to prevent this happening, not reactive to punish when it does.


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Re: Mark Bowen

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 16 Jun 2023 12:29

From Despair To Where?
YorkshireRoyal99 That is also fact though. We've been punished by the EFL due to our spending, KSV Roselare spent around £10m in the Belgium 2nd division and were dissolved due to financial difficulties and Beijing Renhe also spent heavily and Dai Yongge himself got frustrated at the lack of success in the team. Short-term mentality hoping for instant success and it's failed at all 3 of his clubs.


Our current issues revolve around a failure to stick to regulatory guidelines. Yes, he's made serious errors of judgement and yes, if those guidelines were not there then maybe the situation would be similar but it's still a wild leap and from what I can see is nowhere near as serious as us having to flog players to pay the taxman or securing a £20m loan against future earnings like we did 10 years ago.

Personally I think this should lead onto a redefining of FFP rules, similar to the licencing situation in Italy where evert club is subject to analysis of its spending and has to provide proof of funding to compete.


Yes and that all comes back to the same issue, overspending. Agree, different to that of 20 years ago but all these recent issues started from one area, extravagant and unsustainable spending. Agree on the last part as well.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by Stranded » 16 Jun 2023 12:34

Needs to be more clarity here as to if the club have failed to pay players directly or if they have failed to pay monies owed to parent clubs of loan players.

Neither are acceptable but if it is a PL club missing out on 40k for a few days but the player in question was still paid, that is a big difference to the whole squad not getting paid on time.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by Stranded » 16 Jun 2023 12:36

A couple of Twitterists now claiming to have been told that Bowen has resigned. Large pinch of salt naturally until confirmed.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by Brogue » 16 Jun 2023 12:44

Stranded A couple of Twitterists now claiming to have been told that Bowen has resigned. Large pinch of salt naturally until confirmed.


:lol: if this is true, then fcuk me we really are just a shamles. big 'if' though


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Re: Mark Bowen

by Hound » 16 Jun 2023 12:56

Yeah quite a few different accounts so may well be true

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Re: Mark Bowen

by tidus_mi2 » 16 Jun 2023 12:56

Stranded A couple of Twitterists now claiming to have been told that Bowen has resigned. Large pinch of salt naturally until confirmed.

Pretty sure there's plenty on Twitter just stirring shit up though.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by Pepe the Horseman » 16 Jun 2023 13:10

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Stranded A couple of Twitterists now claiming to have been told that Bowen has resigned. Large pinch of salt naturally until confirmed.

Pretty sure there's plenty on Twitter just stirring shit up though.

Yep, calling bullshit on that one. Especially as someone claims he's been in talks with Norwich, based on that speculative article.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by blythspartan » 16 Jun 2023 13:10

I fully believe he’s left. League Two here we come.


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Re: Mark Bowen

by NathStPaul » 16 Jun 2023 13:24

blythspartan I fully believe he’s left. League Two here we come.

I partially believe he has left.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by Only one Trevor Morley » 16 Jun 2023 13:36

Bowen was still there yesterday according to Alan Nixon

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Re: Mark Bowen

by Elm Park Kid » 16 Jun 2023 13:46

Dellor says that he definitely hasn't resigned.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by Pepe the Horseman » 16 Jun 2023 13:47

Lol. Social Media summed up in 4 posts.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by morganb » 16 Jun 2023 13:58

Twitter is just one big In-The-Know competition.

Person One says something to seem in the know.

Then Person Two either backs Person One or gambles on going against them to try to look more in the know if Person One is proved wrong.

If the direction you went is wrong then shh! Don't draw attention to it.

However if the direction you went is right then WINNER! Quote that Tweet forever after.

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Re: Mark Bowen

by leon » 16 Jun 2023 14:01

morganb Twitter is just one big In-The-Know competition.

Person One says something to seem in the know.

Then Person Two either backs Person One or gambles on going against them to try to look more in the know if Person One is proved wrong.

If the direction you went is wrong then shh! Don't draw attention to it.

However if the direction you went is right then WINNER! Quote that Tweet forever after.


sounds familiar - some people say something suspicious is going on, other people sneer at them for being bed wetters, the first people are proved right

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Re: Mark Bowen

by morganb » 16 Jun 2023 16:17

Looks like people have actually been able to contact Mark Bowen via LinkedIn (guess this looks genuine but there are broken image links and spelling mistakes so who knows...):

https://twitter.com/Houlton11/status/16 ... 1705209857

https://twitter.com/ChrisH1871/status/1 ... 8988186626




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