Florist (A) Match Thread

[Alan Partridge]

I was more meaning free kicks/ corners, where he can swing a cross in. Penalty is a different type of dead ball.

[Southbank Old Boy]

Even the best players miss penalties.

Are people annoyed because he missed or because he's shite?

Personally speaking I don't rate Howard and that's nothing really to do with the pen. It was a poor one having seen it on SSN. I haven't seen 1 game where he's played where I thought he's played really well. He isn't bad from dead ball situations, but I feel Reading have and had far better options already here than Howard. He was a waste of money and wages, like a few of knobhead's signings.

Never been a fan of his, but he got better as he got a longer run in the side, and he played alright during the run of games we looked half decent in before he broke his jaw, so credit where its due

Not sure he was a waste of money and wages, but he certainly isnt a player I was overjoyed at signing, and isnt one I have seen make a massive positive contribution, but on the flip side he hasnt done a hell of a lot wrong either

[Platypuss]

Howard can, basically, piss off

How come int he absence of Gylfi a player who has only scored one (consolation) goal for us steps up to take the pen when we had strikers on the pitch??

It says a lot for the character of those strikers.

[Southbank Old Boy]

Howard can, basically, piss off

How come int he absence of Gylfi a player who has only scored one (consolation) goal for us steps up to take the pen when we had strikers on the pitch??

It says a lot for the character of those strikers.

Or a lot about the penalty taking order within the club

Being a forward doesnt make you the best penalty taker of course

[Row Z Royal]

Even the best players miss penalties.

Are people annoyed because he missed or because he's shite?

Personally speaking I don't rate Howard and that's nothing really to do with the pen. It was a poor one having seen it on SSN. I haven't seen 1 game where he's played where I thought he's played really well. He isn't bad from dead ball situations, but I feel Reading have and had far better options already here than Howard. He was a waste of money and wages, like a few of knobhead's signings.

Never been a fan of his, but he got better as he got a longer run in the side, and he played alright during the run of games we looked half decent in before he broke his jaw, so credit where its due

Not sure he was a waste of money and wages, but he certainly isnt a player I was overjoyed at signing, and isnt one I have seen make a massive positive contribution, but on the flip side he hasnt done a hell of a lot wrong either

He's as guilty as anyone else of giving the ball away, but others have more fight to win the ball back.

However, the point of signing new players is that they are better than what you have in the given positions. If he's just average then he doesn't add anything...and is a waste accordingly.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Howards Penalty should've been retaken


CAMP was a yard off off his line when the ball was kicked (thusfar narrowing down Howies chance of actually scoring)


Marek 78 out of 10 today

[glass half full]

Referees generally seem to be either more relaxed or not noticing encroachment by goalkeepers. It is happening far too often and when the authorities are clamping down so hard on 'soft' infringements there ought to be another of their 'crackdowns'.

That said, Camp was awesome and it shows the value of good, consisently safe goalkeeping to a team .

[Man Friday]

Speaking of which, when you look at the replay, Fed didn't acquit himself at all well for the first goal. Went down too quickly. Had he stayed on his feet like on Wednesday night he'd have saved it no problem.

[RoyalBlue]

Referees generally seem to be either more relaxed or not noticing encroachment by goalkeepers. It is happening far too often and when the authorities are clamping down so hard on 'soft' infringements there ought to be another of their 'crackdowns'.

That said, Camp was awesome and it shows the value of good, consisently safe goalkeeping to a team .

To be fair to the ref. I believe it is the responsibility of his assistant to watch for the keeper coming forward off his line before the kick is taken.

[Pseud O'Nym]

Or a lot about the penalty taking order within the club

Being a forward doesnt make you the best penalty taker of course

Though it may make you the best person to be ready to rush in and pick up a rebound.

[URZZZZZZZZ]

I think the criticism of Howard is unfair, but it wouldn't be RFC without some sort of scapegoat. Howard has just come back from an injury that is bound to knock your confidence, and an extended run out the team can't have helped. Howard has not been any worse than the rest of an underachieving team, yet the events of the past 2 games have corrupted and warped peoples opinions.

Because Howard played little part in the Liverpool game and missed a pen in the Forest game, people have come to the conclusion that he is the worst player in the team, forgetting the 20 odd games that have preceeded it. The Liverpool game was something that we all wanted to revel in, myself in a huge way, but lets not lose a grip on reality.

Howard has not been nearly as bad as many people are saying on here, he's just being made a scapegoat for an honest mistake yesterday.

[Southbank Old Boy]

Or a lot about the penalty taking order within the club

Being a forward doesnt make you the best penalty taker of course

Though it may make you the best person to be ready to rush in and pick up a rebound.

Like Archie you mean???

If that really was a consideration it would be better not to take it then in case the rebound came off the post instead of the keeper

[Ian Royal]

I think the criticism of Howard is unfair, but it wouldn't be RFC without some sort of scapegoat. Howard has just come back from an injury that is bound to knock your confidence, and an extended run out the team can't have helped. Howard has not been any worse than the rest of an underachieving team, yet the events of the past 2 games have corrupted and warped peoples opinions.

Because Howard played little part in the Liverpool game and missed a pen in the Forest game, people have come to the conclusion that he is the worst player in the team, forgetting the 20 odd games that have preceeded it. The Liverpool game was something that we all wanted to revel in, myself in a huge way, but lets not lose a grip on reality.

Howard has not been nearly as bad as many people are saying on here, he's just being made a scapegoat for an honest mistake yesterday.

He's looked at his best when played as the workhorse in midfield rather as the attacking player. I think he can link things up well, but lacks a little pace and doesn't quite have the shot to be the attacking player.

[Alan Partridge]

I think the criticism of Howard is unfair, but it wouldn't be RFC without some sort of scapegoat. Howard has just come back from an injury that is bound to knock your confidence, and an extended run out the team can't have helped. Howard has not been any worse than the rest of an underachieving team, yet the events of the past 2 games have corrupted and warped peoples opinions.

Because Howard played little part in the Liverpool game and missed a pen in the Forest game, people have come to the conclusion that he is the worst player in the team, forgetting the 20 odd games that have preceeded it. The Liverpool game was something that we all wanted to revel in, myself in a huge way, but lets not lose a grip on reality.

Howard has not been nearly as bad as many people are saying on here, he's just being made a scapegoat for an honest mistake yesterday.

Not making him to be a scapegoat at all, the penalty was poor but that's a side issue. I haven't been impressed with Howard thus far in all honesty. He's the sort of player I want to like in that he's an attacking player, he clearly has some ability, I just don't think we've seen any of it thus far in his albeit short RFC career. I still massively prefer him to Cisse as a central midfielder but currently I think Reading have better options than the pair of them.

[rabidbee]

NEVER let left footed players take pens, they just seem to miss so often.

Including Siggurdson?

Is it worth pointing out that a) Howard was something of a catalystfor the team's improvement and b) his lovely cross made it impossible for Kébé to miss (and, let's face it, that's the only way Kébé is ever going to get goals).

[brendywendy]

Bah!

[Maguire]

NEVER let left footed players take pens, they just seem to miss so often.

Including Siggurdson?

Is it worth pointing out that a) Howard was something of a catalystfor the team's improvement and b) his lovely cross made it impossible for Kébé to miss (and, let's face it, that's the only way Kébé is ever going to get goals).

Siggurdson?

[Ian Royal]

Yeah, looks pretty right footed to me when it comes to pens and set pieces.

[rabidbee]

Sorry, for some reason I remembered him hitting it with his left peg on Wednesday night.

[SLAMMED]

He hit it with his right.