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how long should we keep nigel adkins as manager?

get rid of now, his tactics are weak and we can do better
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give him till the end of december, then we will see where we are
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4%
give him time to make signings in january and we will assess in march
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give him till the end of the season, he deserves a full season to show what he can do
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i am currently happy with our position in the table and the quality of football we are playing. this shouldnt be a discussion
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other
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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Barry the bird boggler » 21 Dec 2013 18:59

^ this

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Royalee » 21 Dec 2013 19:00

Cureton's Volley I am not calling for Nige to go, but they really need to stop f♡cking around with it at the back

Takes time to coach players - you can't go from hoofing it to playing progressive football straight away. I think you'll find we'll move the ball forward a lot quicker when Nigel's been able to bring in players who actually have any off the ball movement, plus has a fully fit left back which is killing our balance. Liverpool fannied around with the ball loads last year because they were changing their style and personnel...look how many chances they create now.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by LoyalRoyalFan » 21 Dec 2013 19:00

Royalee No manager is instantly the right 'type'. People bitched about Coppell for not showing enough passion, questioned Pardew and please explain what McGhee's connections with Reading were before he took over as manager? Why don't all you morons quieten down and let the grown ups do their jobs.


Fair enough, but Adkins is far from popular.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by bobby1413 » 21 Dec 2013 19:01

PATHETIC attitude.

I can't think of anyone I'd rather have. Look at his track record, look at where he came from. People like you haven't got a bloody clue. I think in months to come you'll be eating your words, as I can well imagine us rocketing back up the table - not promotion necessarily, but a solid play off place with good performances and a good team.

<sarcastic tone on>
sure let's sack Nigel, and get in someone else. Like... who can Reading attract? Really... I can't think of anyone else.
</sarcastic tone off>

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Royalee » 21 Dec 2013 19:03

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Royalee No manager is instantly the right 'type'. People bitched about Coppell for not showing enough passion, questioned Pardew and please explain what McGhee's connections with Reading were before he took over as manager? Why don't all you morons quieten down and let the grown ups do their jobs.


Fair enough, but Adkins is far from popular.

I don't really care how popular he is a few months into his reign - Kenny Dalglish was the popular choice at Liverpool and did shit second time round, Shearer was popular at Newcastle, Fergie was unpopular at United for years. All I want is a manager capable of building the foundations to drive us forward in the long term and give us a platform to build a Premiership side playing passing football - I don't care where he's from as long as I can see signs of him trying to do that and evidence he has done it at other clubs in the past, which are obvious.


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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by winchester_royal » 21 Dec 2013 19:11

Anyone in any doubt as to what it is Adkins is trying to do should listen to his BBCRB interview. His vision for the club is exciting, even if the football isn't atm.

I left the game today as gloomy as the most miserable of STG's, but he's definitely worth sticking with. The next couple of Windows will be the defining points of his tenure. We need players more suited to passing the ball if we're going to be able to do it with tempo.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by floyd__streete » 21 Dec 2013 19:14

winchester_royal His vision for the club is exciting


:lol:

Its just words, mate.

Anyway, we've had almost all the Adkinsistas contribute to this thread now, at least you weren't aggressive - just deluded as per - unlike some of the others. Just SPARTA to come now, he'll be along soon I'm sure.....

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by RoyalBlue » 21 Dec 2013 19:15

LoyalRoyalFan Granted that the title is badly worded, but to put it simply; Nigel Adkins and the Reading fans will just never get along. He isn't the type of manager we need, or want, and the connection between the fans, most of the playing staff, and Nigel himself just isn't there.

The ownership situation doesn't help, but the feeling around the club is one of negativity, and explains why so many people have chosen to boycott the Adkins Revolution.


Anyone with half a brain who listened to Adkins' post match interview tonight would realise just how stupid and absolutely wrong your remarks are.

'Not the type of manager we need or want' ? He is absolutely the type of manager we need. Unlike some of our stupid fans, he realises that it is no good getting promoted to the PL playing Championship 'energy/percentage football' and then trying to adapt when you are there. The PL is far too unforgiving for that and you are simply not given the time and opportunities to change your players and style when you get there. That is the reason McDermott and his squad failed so dramatically last season.

That being the case, you have to change to PL style posession football whilst you are in the Championship and get promoted playing that way. That is what Adkins is trying to do but it isn't a quick process and his task hasn't been made any easier by the squad and preferred playing style of some of the players he inherited. He isn't wanted by some of our fans and the connection with them is missing because they are the greedy and spoilt 21st Century want it now type who fail to realise that you have to work hard to achieve somethings and reward/success doesn't always come over night.

If we stick with Adkins (and Madejski manages to sort out the mess created by his first attempt to sell the club) we will get promoted but it may not be this season or possibly even next. However, when we do get promoted, we will do so in a highly enjoyable and entertaining way and will have a fantastic and very realistic chance of remaining in the PL far longer than we have on the previous two occasions.

Will our owner(s), Chairman, Board and supporters have the patience and nerve required to ensure that this happens or will we end up knee jerking and firing the very manager that we do need?

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by mambo3 » 21 Dec 2013 19:17

Where are the other squad members that have never played or rarely played? Are they so bad they don't get a look in? Do we have no defenders, midfielders, strikers that can be utilised. NA accepted the job and the squad and the way Reading operate so he has no excuses. BMcD know how to bring the best out of players even poor ones. NA needs to master this


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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by floyd__streete » 21 Dec 2013 19:17

RoyalBlue If we stick with Adkins (and Madejski manages to sort out the mess created by his first attempt to sell the club) we will get promoted but it may not be this season or possibly even next. However, when we do get promoted, we will do so in a highly enjoyable and entertaining way and will have a fantastic and very realistic chance of remaining in the PL far longer than we have on the previous two occasions.


.....and the Cow jumped over the Moon.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by semtex1871 » 21 Dec 2013 19:18

Most Reading fans just don't like change, that's why most continually want the old players to come back so it can be like it always was, it was what they knew.

These are the same people who are born in Reading, have never moved out of Reading, have always worked in Reading......they don't like change.....

Get a grip you 'tards.....

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Haag Royal » 21 Dec 2013 19:18

LoyalRoyalFan Granted that the title is badly worded, but to put it simply; Nigel Adkins and the Reading fans will just never get along. He isn't the type of manager we need, or want, and the connection between the fans, most of the playing staff, and Nigel himself just isn't there.

The ownership situation doesn't help, but the feeling around the club is one of negativity, and explains why so many people have chosen to boycott the Adkins Revolution.


What a ridiculous post. Grow up.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by windermere_royal » 21 Dec 2013 19:19

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LoyalRoyalFan Granted that the title is badly worded, but to put it simply; Nigel Adkins and the Reading fans will just never get along. He isn't the type of manager we need, or want, and the connection between the fans, most of the playing staff, and Nigel himself just isn't there.

The ownership situation doesn't help, but the feeling around the club is one of negativity, and explains why so many people have chosen to boycott the Adkins Revolution.


Anyone with half a brain who listened to Adkins' post match interview tonight would realise just how stupid and absolutely wrong your remarks are.

'Not the type of manager we need or want' ? He is absolutely the type of manager we need. Unlike some of our stupid fans, he realises that it is no good getting promoted to the PL playing Championship 'energy/percentage football' and then trying to adapt when you are there. The PL is far too unforgiving for that and you are simply not given the time and opportunities to change your players and style when you get there. That is the reason McDermott and his squad failed so dramatically last season.

That being the case, you have to change to PL style posession football whilst you are in the Championship and get promoted playing that way. That is what Adkins is trying to do but it isn't a quick process and his task hasn't been made any easier by the squad and preferred playing style of some of the players he inherited. He isn't wanted by some of our fans and the connection with them is missing because they are the greedy and spoilt 21st Century want it now type who fail to realise that you have to work hard to achieve somethings and reward/success doesn't always come over night.

If we stick with Adkins (and Madejski manages to sort out the mess created by his first attempt to sell the club) we will get promoted but it may not be this season or possibly even next. However, when we do get promoted, we will do so in a highly enjoyable and entertaining way and will have a fantastic and very realistic chance of remaining in the PL far longer than we have on the previous two occasions.

Will our owner(s), Chairman, Board and supporters have the patience and nerve required to ensure that this happens or will we end up knee jerking and firing the very manager that we do need?

Well said that man


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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by floyd__streete » 21 Dec 2013 19:19

mambo3 NA accepted the job and the squad and the way Reading operate so he has no excuses. BMcD know how to bring the best out of players even poor ones. NA needs to master this


Most sense spoken on this thread yet.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Royalee » 21 Dec 2013 19:23

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mambo3 NA accepted the job and the squad and the way Reading operate so he has no excuses. BMcD know how to bring the best out of players even poor ones. NA needs to master this


Most sense spoken on this thread yet.

Didn't seem to know how to get the most out of Guthrie and Pogrebnyak...

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Royalee » 21 Dec 2013 19:24

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LoyalRoyalFan Granted that the title is badly worded, but to put it simply; Nigel Adkins and the Reading fans will just never get along. He isn't the type of manager we need, or want, and the connection between the fans, most of the playing staff, and Nigel himself just isn't there.

The ownership situation doesn't help, but the feeling around the club is one of negativity, and explains why so many people have chosen to boycott the Adkins Revolution.


Anyone with half a brain who listened to Adkins' post match interview tonight would realise just how stupid and absolutely wrong your remarks are.

'Not the type of manager we need or want' ? He is absolutely the type of manager we need. Unlike some of our stupid fans, he realises that it is no good getting promoted to the PL playing Championship 'energy/percentage football' and then trying to adapt when you are there. The PL is far too unforgiving for that and you are simply not given the time and opportunities to change your players and style when you get there. That is the reason McDermott and his squad failed so dramatically last season.

That being the case, you have to change to PL style posession football whilst you are in the Championship and get promoted playing that way. That is what Adkins is trying to do but it isn't a quick process and his task hasn't been made any easier by the squad and preferred playing style of some of the players he inherited. He isn't wanted by some of our fans and the connection with them is missing because they are the greedy and spoilt 21st Century want it now type who fail to realise that you have to work hard to achieve somethings and reward/success doesn't always come over night.

If we stick with Adkins (and Madejski manages to sort out the mess created by his first attempt to sell the club) we will get promoted but it may not be this season or possibly even next. However, when we do get promoted, we will do so in a highly enjoyable and entertaining way and will have a fantastic and very realistic chance of remaining in the PL far longer than we have on the previous two occasions.

Will our owner(s), Chairman, Board and supporters have the patience and nerve required to ensure that this happens or will we end up knee jerking and firing the very manager that we do need?


Hooray, some sense.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by floyd__streete » 21 Dec 2013 19:24

Royalee Didn't seem to know how to get the most out of Guthrie and Pogrebnyak...


Fair point on Pog. Guthrie has been total mince the last handful of times I've seen him play so I'm not convinced on that one.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by winchester_royal » 21 Dec 2013 19:24

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winchester_royal His vision for the club is exciting


:lol:

Its just words, mate.

Anyway, we've had almost all the Adkinsistas contribute to this thread now, at least you weren't aggressive - just deluded as per - unlike some of the others. Just SPARTA to come now, he'll be along soon I'm sure.....

Call me a hopeless romantic, but I find words can be just as exciting and reassuring as a decent half of football.

Anywho, no aggression from me. The lack of progress is disconserting, the relentless positivity frustrating, and the football quite numbing. Easy to understand those becoming restless, but calls to sack any manager of a team sitting 6th in the table are typical of a footballing world that has become spoilt and impatient.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Royalee » 21 Dec 2013 19:27

floyd__streete
Royalee Didn't seem to know how to get the most out of Guthrie and Pogrebnyak...


Fair point on Pog. Guthrie has been total mince the last handful of times I've seen him play so I'm not convinced on that one.


He's been poor ever since Bridge got injured and we've had no left flank and subsequently less movement in midfield. He's a great passer of the ball but you can't make great passes without the other players moving. What also doesn't help as that our two best defensive-minded midfielders in Baird and Karacan are injured which leaves him exposed when we're static in the middle of the park.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Royalee » 21 Dec 2013 19:27

semtex1871 Most Reading fans just don't like change, that's why most continually want the old players to come back so it can be like it always was, it was what they knew.

These are the same people who are born in Reading, have never moved out of Reading, have always worked in Reading......they don't like change.....

Get a grip you 'tards.....

Yeah, this as well.

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