MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

300 posts
windermereROYAL
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 8347
Joined: 19 Feb 2008 11:18

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by windermereROYAL » 30 Jul 2022 23:04

The Royal Forester
windermereROYAL Joint bottom. :D

We are not bottom. Stoke have conceded more goals than us. We are joint 20th. on goal difference/scored. at least we are above the dotted line.


We were when I posted it, Stoke were losing 1-0.

loyalroyal4life
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5595
Joined: 15 May 2007 11:58

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by loyalroyal4life » 30 Jul 2022 23:12

How long until Bowen replaces Ince....

User avatar
Zip
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 22408
Joined: 30 Dec 2017 16:39

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Zip » 30 Jul 2022 23:42

loyalroyal4life How long until Bowen replaces Ince....


He deserves a number of months but four straight League defeats and no goals scored isn’t a great place to be in right now. As long as it is clear he looks like keeping us up then he should stay. Anything about 22nd is a success so the bar is set low. The squad looks good enough to survive but if we have another injury ravaged season it won’t be. The injuries are far more disappointing than today’s result.

Millsy
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 10129
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 18:36
Location: Make the world safe again!

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Millsy » 31 Jul 2022 00:45

Not sure why we're giving ratings to Hendrick and Fornah when they didn't play.

I know they they were named in the starting 11 and all that but I watched the game.

JR
Member
Posts: 849
Joined: 03 Apr 2006 12:53

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by JR » 31 Jul 2022 01:07

Snowflake Royal Feel like it's not a game without at least some ratings.

Lumley - 7 no worrying moments, lucky with one off the post and a good save followed by I thought he could maybe do better with the goal. Claimed crosses well.
Yiadom - 8 led really well and once released in the second half helped us get forward
Holmes - 7 read the danger well
McIntyre - 7 same
Hoilett - 7 some nice stuff but not enough end product
NGW - 6 two unfortunate slips that could have been costly but weren’t, thought he did ok
Hendrick - 6.5 poor start but grew into the game, much better playing further from the defence
Fornah - 6 grew into the game more, one bit of nice determination and strength, but very anonymous start
Ince - 7 could run all day, chased, ran at defence, needs end product
Ejaria - 6 probably the best midfielder defensively first half, but very uninvolved otherwise.
Meite - 6 looks a threat but we didn't create enough

Long - didn’t have an impact

Ince - not good enough setting us up to start, sub too little and too late.


Based on the stats and these ratings we were unlucky to not get at least a point.

So we shouldn’t be too disheartened in the first game for a brand new team.


blythspartan
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 2413
Joined: 05 Jun 2012 20:50

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by blythspartan » 31 Jul 2022 05:12

JR
Snowflake Royal Feel like it's not a game without at least some ratings.

Lumley - 7 no worrying moments, lucky with one off the post and a good save followed by I thought he could maybe do better with the goal. Claimed crosses well.
Yiadom - 8 led really well and once released in the second half helped us get forward
Holmes - 7 read the danger well
McIntyre - 7 same
Hoilett - 7 some nice stuff but not enough end product
NGW - 6 two unfortunate slips that could have been costly but weren’t, thought he did ok
Hendrick - 6.5 poor start but grew into the game, much better playing further from the defence
Fornah - 6 grew into the game more, one bit of nice determination and strength, but very anonymous start
Ince - 7 could run all day, chased, ran at defence, needs end product
Ejaria - 6 probably the best midfielder defensively first half, but very uninvolved otherwise.
Meite - 6 looks a threat but we didn't create enough

Long - didn’t have an impact

Ince - not good enough setting us up to start, sub too little and too late.


Based on the stats and these ratings we were unlucky to not get at least a point.

So we shouldn’t be too disheartened in the first game for a brand new team.


+1 Also, if Joao and Hutchinson had been playing I think we win that game. As has been mentioned the injuries are more the most disappointing thing. Plus, it will take time for the team to gel and for some players to find their feet.

Stranded
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 20225
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 12:42
Location: Propping up the bar in the Nags

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Stranded » 31 Jul 2022 06:24

The biggest take away from yesterday is injuries will kill us.

Hutchinson looks like a late knock, so probably within 24 to 48 hours prior to kick off, losing him meant:

Yiadom moved back to RCB
Hoilett moving from LWB to RWB
NGW getting a full debut when he was most likely going to be a bench option.

No wonder it looked disjointed and poorly set up as players were suddenly playing in positions that they hadn't prepped to play in a relatively new formation. Team grew into it and built a lot of pressure without really hurting them. Positives there but 1 defeat could be 2 or 3 quickly.

Loum and hopefully Sarr next week makes us a different team.

Hound
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 25257
Joined: 27 Sep 2016 22:16
Location: Simpleton

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Hound » 31 Jul 2022 06:38

Injuries very disappointing. Just lucky we don’t have a league midweek game for a few weeks. Hopefully Hutchinson and Joao back for the game on 2 weeks time

Ince tends to be quite pessimistic in his return dates, unlike Pauno

Notts Royal
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 1018
Joined: 11 Feb 2018 00:07

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Notts Royal » 31 Jul 2022 07:31

Have to say I’m disappointed the summer break has ended. Was enjoyable not having lost for a few months!

Predicted a 1-0 loss & that’s exactly what happened. Too early to judge but we know this is going to be a dogfight of a season so it’s hardly surprising.

Fully fit squad is a priority & we all know our record for signing injury-prone players!


Linden Jones' Tash
Member
Posts: 546
Joined: 20 Jun 2009 12:03
Location: north of the river...

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Linden Jones' Tash » 31 Jul 2022 07:36

Was listening on BBCRB hoping for a different story this season...

But just from listening, there is a strong sense of deja vu - set up to invite pressure, go a goal down within 15-20 mins, then start to play once there is a deficit to make up.

Never make up the deficit or maybe spawn a draw....

I'd like to see the team set up to start at a good tempo and try and score first at some point...

Franconian Royal
Member
Posts: 564
Joined: 14 Dec 2018 23:56
Location: Deepest darkest Nuremberg

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Franconian Royal » 31 Jul 2022 07:40

The 2nd half was much better than the first, which isn’t hard. Such a shame that Lucas is out injured.
I’m hoping PINce changes it up for next weekend. I hope he goes 2 up top with Yakou and ShLong. I know ShLong isn’tw what he was, but I think some teams, would be quite scared of those 2 up top.
Hearing that Loum is ready to go, is a positive. See someone posted on Twatter that he likes a yellow. Snr Franconian called him Bikey Mk. 2. Could be fun over 46 games if he keeps up that many yellows, but Hendrick looked off the pace and Fornah was bullied a lot first half yesterday.
Onwards and upwards

Franconian Royal
Member
Posts: 564
Joined: 14 Dec 2018 23:56
Location: Deepest darkest Nuremberg

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Franconian Royal » 31 Jul 2022 07:42

Linden Jones' Tash Was listening on BBCRB hoping for a different story this season...

But just from listening, there is a strong sense of deja vu - set up to invite pressure, go a goal down within 15-20 mins, then start to play once there is a deficit to make up.

Never make up the deficit or maybe spawn a draw....

I'd like to see the team set up to start at a good tempo and try and score first at some point...

Would like this too LJT, but with players out, we’re limited to what we can do.

Royal_jimmy
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5165
Joined: 10 Aug 2011 10:44
Location: Planet Earth

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Royal_jimmy » 31 Jul 2022 09:00

Looking at the game (not the injuries which again is a joke and our medical teams positions need to be reviewed), what troubled me was we didn't do our homework on Blackpool. Bowler is their best player and their strengths mean that they attack predominantly on the right side of the pitch. Yet we never doubled up on him to nullify the threat. NGW was torn to pieces and their goal came from that side. Clearly bad tactics.


User avatar
SouthDownsRoyal
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 11099
Joined: 08 Dec 2005 12:48

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by SouthDownsRoyal » 31 Jul 2022 09:32

AirRaidSiren The only thing I fear this season is Paul Ince. Today, and the latter part of last season, showed that inept attitude of a good manager.

Saying that, it is only the 1st game. We have a much healthier squad than last season, with most new signings that look exciting, it is how the manager puts this on the field of play. Unfortunately, I don't think he is up to scratch.

Proove me wrong. I hope he pulls it off though.


If it weren’t for our injuries still :|

Royal_jimmy
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5165
Joined: 10 Aug 2011 10:44
Location: Planet Earth

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Royal_jimmy » 31 Jul 2022 09:53

SouthDownsRoyal
AirRaidSiren The only thing I fear this season is Paul Ince. Today, and the latter part of last season, showed that inept attitude of a good manager.

Saying that, it is only the 1st game. We have a much healthier squad than last season, with most new signings that look exciting, it is how the manager puts this on the field of play. Unfortunately, I don't think he is up to scratch.

Proove me wrong. I hope he pulls it off though.


If it weren’t for our injuries still :|


Not sure about our squad being better. Laurent and Swift were massive blows when they left and their quality hasn't been replaced

South Coast Royal
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 6410
Joined: 16 Jan 2020 17:29

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by South Coast Royal » 31 Jul 2022 10:26

Have just read Ince's comments after the game and it was usual management speak about the odd mistake, we were better second half and deserved something from the game blah, blah.

What about the first half?
With 5 subs now permitted I agree with the posters that say why not use them when we are losing?
Even if Shane Long is not super fit surely he could at least have played for half an hour.

Fornah looks to be the new Dele-Bashiru and I suspect will lose his place once Loum looms large but he fills out the squad and Guinness-Walker had a tough time but so did Richards when he first came into the side so let's wait and see.

We did pass it around a lot in the second half without really threatening and that might now be the issue for this season-creativity and finishing whereas last season it was more about the poor defensive side.

Here's hoping that Loum is as good as his history indicates and that he is here to showcase his talents ahead of a move to a bigger club, otherwise it is difficult to understand why he would be coming to us.

Hound
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 25257
Joined: 27 Sep 2016 22:16
Location: Simpleton

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Hound » 31 Jul 2022 10:34

Because Bowen managed to convince him we are in London from the look of his Twitter

But yes hopefully he’ll add some bite in the midfield and be good to go for next week

windermereROYAL
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 8347
Joined: 19 Feb 2008 11:18

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by windermereROYAL » 31 Jul 2022 10:35

Disappointing that players are getting judged and thrown to the wolves after just 90 minutes of competitive football this season.

URZZZZ
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 7365
Joined: 20 Apr 2013 18:30

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by URZZZZ » 31 Jul 2022 10:54

Given how reliant we’ve been on certain players in these last few seasons, in other words passing to Swift/Olise and hoping they conjure something up, it’s no surprise we were a little blunt in the final third yesterday. In theory, this is a new way of playing (both formation and personnel) so it’s natural it won’t be a quick fix. And was refreshing to see the players work so hard, even from the top end of the pitch, Ince and Ejaria with a number of tackles/interceptions higher up the park.

However, it does require gradual improvement from one week to the next. Making one sub out of five, not chucking another up top, and ending with a ST at LF and a RF at ST just isn’t good enough. There was a real opportunity to get back into the game those last 15 minutes and we didn’t exploit it near enough.

Learning curve for both the players (starting so slowly, and the final ball not being there) and the management (culpable for the slow start and lack of reactivity) but there were promising signs there.

Stranded
Hob Nob Subscriber
Hob Nob Subscriber
Posts: 20225
Joined: 14 Apr 2004 12:42
Location: Propping up the bar in the Nags

Re: MATCHWATCH : Blackpool (a)

by Stranded » 31 Jul 2022 12:09

South Coast Royal Have just read Ince's comments after the game and it was usual management speak about the odd mistake, we were better second half and deserved something from the game blah, blah.

What about the first half?
With 5 subs now permitted I agree with the posters that say why not use them when we are losing?
Even if Shane Long is not super fit surely he could at least have played for half an hour.

Fornah looks to be the new Dele-Bashiru and I suspect will lose his place once Loum looms large but he fills out the squad and Guinness-Walker had a tough time but so did Richards when he first came into the side so let's wait and see.

We did pass it around a lot in the second half without really threatening and that might now be the issue for this season-creativity and finishing whereas last season it was more about the poor defensive side.

Here's hoping that Loum is as good as his history indicates and that he is here to showcase his talents ahead of a move to a bigger club, otherwise it is difficult to understand why he would be coming to us.


1st half was mainly due to 2 players having to shift position due to Hutchinson's late injury and NGW starting when that wasn't the plan.

Fornah doing exactly as the reviews suggest and starting slowly, he'll adjust to the pace and show his worth IMHO.

Taking injury out of it, If Sarr had been signed off in time, the impact of having another CB in the back 3, would have lead to a more cohesive start as players would be playing where they had prepped and we would have got, at worst, a 0-0 out of yesterday.

300 posts

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Adsense [Bot], Plymouth exile, WestYorksRoyal and 191 guests

It is currently 13 Nov 2024 21:24