How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by JordCot » 20 Jan 2013 18:29

Just out of interest, but if we take it to the last day and still end up getting relegated will people still want Brian for the next year at least?

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by MmmMonsterMunch » 20 Jan 2013 18:33

JordCot Just out of interest, but if we take it to the last day and still end up getting relegated will people still want Brian for the next year at least?


Completely. The only worry would be him getting poached TBH.

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Re: brian out!

by Handsome Man » 20 Jan 2013 18:37

2 world wars, 1 world cup
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2 world wars, 1 world cup I don't think anyone's been wrong.



Not much :P :P :P :P :P :P

There's been more negative sh*t on here this season than I can ever remember, most of which has already been shown to be complete bollox whether we are relegated or not

"Simples"


Que? :?:

If we're relegated, some negativity is spot on surely. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


If you have been negative this season you've been wrong whatever happens.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by The Beardy Man » 20 Jan 2013 18:40

JordCot Just out of interest, but if we take it to the last day and still end up getting relegated will people still want Brian for the next year at least?


Yes.

I will admit to having had huge concerns as we were moving through December. We seemed to be stuck playing 4-4-2 and didn't appear to be learning any lessons at all. Since the Man City game though we turned a corner. Greater tactical flexibility and a willingness to try and shut the other team out, rather than out score them. We have started game by game to look like we belong here now.

Brian has shown the necessary lessons were learnt. Be silly to waste that by then seeing him leave to apply said lessons at another club. As long as we are moving forwards (and squad wise we certainly have) then if we are relegated I would see it as 2 steps forward and 1 step back.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by JordCot » 20 Jan 2013 18:49

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JordCot Just out of interest, but if we take it to the last day and still end up getting relegated will people still want Brian for the next year at least?


Yes.

I will admit to having had huge concerns as we were moving through December. We seemed to be stuck playing 4-4-2 and didn't appear to be learning any lessons at all. Since the Man City game though we turned a corner. Greater tactical flexibility and a willingness to try and shut the other team out, rather than out score them. We have started game by game to look like we belong here now.

Brian has shown the necessary lessons were learnt. Be silly to waste that by then seeing him leave to apply said lessons at another club. As long as we are moving forwards (and squad wise we certainly have) then if we are relegated I would see it as 2 steps forward and 1 step back.


Yeah I agree completely, the only positive out of going down would be seeing Brian have the chance to actually build a team in a division with a bit more lenience


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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Super_horns » 20 Jan 2013 18:50

You've won 2 games now...must be time to sack him as with Southampton!

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Ian Royal » 20 Jan 2013 19:13

JordCot Just out of interest, but if we take it to the last day and still end up getting relegated will people still want Brian for the next year at least?

Hell yes.

The answer is still yes (now) even if we're relegated by April.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by SydenhamRoyal » 20 Jan 2013 19:14

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JordCot Just out of interest, but if we take it to the last day and still end up getting relegated will people still want Brian for the next year at least?

Hell yes.

The answer is still yes (now) even if we're relegated by April.


100% agreed. UNLESS - we can do a job share; BM can be our manager for ever more - from the 1st Jan to the end of the season every season. Anyone else will do for the first half of the season

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Re: brian out!

by Hoop Blah » 21 Jan 2013 13:30

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2 world wars, 1 world cup I don't think anyone's been wrong.



Not much :P :P :P :P :P :P

There's been more negative sh*t on here this season than I can ever remember, most of which has already been shown to be complete bollox whether we are relegated or not

"Simples"


In what way will the negativity have been proved wrong?

Most of the criticism was based around tactical and team selection mistakes that McDermott was making time after time and his inability to either buy the players to make his preferred system work or get the best out of the better players he brought in over the summer to make a new (more Premier League suitable) system work and get better results.

I'd say that recent events have shown that a lot of the negativity and criticism has been shown to be correct. We've evolved the way we play and got more out of the likes of Pogrebnyak and Guthrie and made ourselves harder to beat. We've relied on a bit of fortune to stay in the games we've won yes, and that's still a worry for me, but we look like we've finally learned some obvious lessons now, albeit a bit too late.

Although I never really wanted McDermott to go I've always been of the opinion that he was a major contributory factor in our lack of results. He, and the rest of the club, appear to have accepted that they got things wrong and have had to learn lessons along the way. My issue is that those lesssons were pretty obvious and the delay in waking up to the reality of Premier League football will probably still cost us our place in the league.

I'm glad we've stuck with McDermott, and I'm glad he's making the changes that we needed. What I want to see from here until the end of the season is a continued improvement and even better defensive displays that mean we're not hanging on quite so much in the first 45 minutes and can pick up points whilst learning how to play a more effective brand of football for next season.


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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by The Cap » 21 Jan 2013 14:14

The Beardy Man wrote:
Brian has shown the necessary lessons were learnt. Be silly to waste that by then seeing him leave to apply said lessons at another club. As long as we are moving forwards (and squad wise we certainly have) then if we are relegated I would see it as 2 steps forward and 1 step back.


+1. Wise words :wink:

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Extended-Phenotype » 21 Jan 2013 14:15

Brian makes the changes and brings in the players the critics have been calling for.
Reading get results.
Critics are laughed at?

Very strange.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by melonhead » 21 Jan 2013 14:37

critics were demanding those changes when we only had two fit midfielders :roll:

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Extended-Phenotype » 21 Jan 2013 14:48

melonhead critics were demanding those changes when we only had two fit midfielders :roll:


No.

Hope this helps.


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Re: brian out!

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Jan 2013 15:40

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2 world wars, 1 world cup I don't think anyone's been wrong.



Not much :P :P :P :P :P :P

There's been more negative sh*t on here this season than I can ever remember, most of which has already been shown to be complete bollox whether we are relegated or not

"Simples"


In what way will the negativity have been proved wrong?

Most of the criticism was based around tactical and team selection mistakes that McDermott was making time after time and his inability to either buy the players to make his preferred system work or get the best out of the better players he brought in over the summer to make a new (more Premier League suitable) system work and get better results.

I'd say that recent events have shown that a lot of the negativity and criticism has been shown to be correct. We've evolved the way we play and got more out of the likes of Pogrebnyak and Guthrie and made ourselves harder to beat. We've relied on a bit of fortune to stay in the games we've won yes, and that's still a worry for me, but we look like we've finally learned some obvious lessons now, albeit a bit too late.

Although I never really wanted McDermott to go I've always been of the opinion that he was a major contributory factor in our lack of results. He, and the rest of the club, appear to have accepted that they got things wrong and have had to learn lessons along the way. My issue is that those lesssons were pretty obvious and the delay in waking up to the reality of Premier League football will probably still cost us our place in the league.

I'm glad we've stuck with McDermott, and I'm glad he's making the changes that we needed. What I want to see from here until the end of the season is a continued improvement and even better defensive displays that mean we're not hanging on quite so much in the first 45 minutes and can pick up points whilst learning how to play a more effective brand of football for next season.


So, because you saw some changes that were needed and McDermott didn't implement them until he had players back from injury and/or the transfer window opened, that justifies our resident twats calling for his head :|

Last summer, McDermott had his worst transfer window since he became manager (not that I've seen many complaints about him signing "Butter wouldn't melt" Shorey :roll: ) and this has been a major factor in our struggles this season...................sh*t happens, but after a fantastic record going back to his days as head coach, he has also banked enough credit in this respect to get things wrong once in a while without out resident twats calling for his head.

Having got us promoted last season when most of our resident twats didn't give us a prayer 12 months ago, he did his best to give the successful squad a chance to prove they were good enough to bridge the gap in class, when our resident twats would have happily scene him spend £50m on a new team before a ball was kicked.

With over a week to go before the window closes, we have made 3 signings (probably 4) and have now won three of our last 4 matches, making us at least an even money bet to avoid relegation.......................so, yes, once again McDermott is doing a fantastic job for this club and our resident twats are showing as ever, that they NEVER learn.
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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by melonhead » 21 Jan 2013 15:41

after a fantastic record going back to his days as head coach, he has also banked enough credit in this respect to get things wrong once in a while without out resident twats calling for his head.





all the rest of it is galling.
but this is what really annoys about some of our divwit fans tbf

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Re: brian out!

by cmonurz » 21 Jan 2013 15:46

Woodcote Royal making us at least an even money bet to avoid relegation.


You keep making this point. You can get 15/8 on us staying up. I look forward to you posting your betting slip on here.

You're making yourself look like a bit of an arse. Having an opinion does not make someone an 'utter tw@t' (unless you're brendy). HTH.
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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by melonhead » 21 Jan 2013 15:49

coming from the biggest twat on here i take that as a mssive compliment

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by cmonurz » 21 Jan 2013 15:50

melonhead coming from the biggest twat on here i take that as a mssive compliment


Thanks pal, it was meant in jest.

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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by melonhead » 21 Jan 2013 15:51

:lol:


i have feelings you know
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Re: How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

by Royal Rother » 21 Jan 2013 15:57

Constructive negativity is ok, it's the vitriol, disrespect and general lack of faith shown by some that I abhor.

Yes, he makes mistakes but, as he himself pointed out a couple of months ago, he has learned, adapted and overcome difficult situations in every season so far and that is a commendable and pretty uncommon trait in football management these days.

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