HNA approval/disapproval of NA

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how long should we keep nigel adkins as manager?

get rid of now, his tactics are weak and we can do better
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give him till the end of december, then we will see where we are
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4%
give him time to make signings in january and we will assess in march
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give him till the end of the season, he deserves a full season to show what he can do
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i am currently happy with our position in the table and the quality of football we are playing. this shouldnt be a discussion
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other
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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by RoyalBlue » 21 Dec 2013 19:28

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LoyalRoyalFan Granted that the title is badly worded, but to put it simply; Nigel Adkins and the Reading fans will just never get along. He isn't the type of manager we need, or want, and the connection between the fans, most of the playing staff, and Nigel himself just isn't there.

The ownership situation doesn't help, but the feeling around the club is one of negativity, and explains why so many people have chosen to boycott the Adkins Revolution.


Anyone with half a brain who listened to Adkins' post match interview tonight would realise just how stupid and absolutely wrong your remarks are.

'Not the type of manager we need or want' ? He is absolutely the type of manager we need. Unlike some of our stupid fans, he realises that it is no good getting promoted to the PL playing Championship 'energy/percentage football' and then trying to adapt when you are there. The PL is far too unforgiving for that and you are simply not given the time and opportunities to change your players and style when you get there. That is the reason McDermott and his squad failed so dramatically last season.

That being the case, you have to change to PL style posession football whilst you are in the Championship and get promoted playing that way. That is what Adkins is trying to do but it isn't a quick process and his task hasn't been made any easier by the squad and preferred playing style of some of the players he inherited. He isn't wanted by some of our fans and the connection with them is missing because they are the greedy and spoilt 21st Century want it now type who fail to realise that you have to work hard to achieve somethings and reward/success doesn't always come over night.

If we stick with Adkins (and Madejski manages to sort out the mess created by his first attempt to sell the club) we will get promoted but it may not be this season or possibly even next. However, when we do get promoted, we will do so in a highly enjoyable and entertaining way and will have a fantastic and very realistic chance of remaining in the PL far longer than we have on the previous two occasions.

Will our owner(s), Chairman, Board and supporters have the patience and nerve required to ensure that this happens or will we end up knee jerking and firing the very manager that we do need?

Well said that man


Please be quick to remind me of my words if I too start to show petulant impatience during some of the darker hours that we will definitely go through during the transition period.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by SPARTA » 21 Dec 2013 19:31

The Reading type? There isn't one. McDermott played long ball and you loved him. Adkins has reverted to it because these players can't yet play it out from the back - admitted so today. Some of you need to take a look at yourselves and look up what support means.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by LoyalRoyalFan » 21 Dec 2013 19:34

semtex1871 Most Reading fans just don't like change, that's why most continually want the old players to come back so it can be like it always was, it was what they knew.

These are the same people who are born in Reading, have never moved out of Reading, have always worked in Reading......they don't like change.....

Get a grip you 'tards.....


Says the fascist.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by LoyalRoyalFan » 21 Dec 2013 19:36

SPARTA The Reading type? There isn't one. McDermott played long ball and you loved him. Adkins has reverted to it because these players can't yet play it out from the back - admitted so today. Some of you need to take a look at yourselves and look up what support means.


Have your 'sources' told you otherwise?

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by RoyalBlue » 21 Dec 2013 19:36

mambo3 Where are the other squad members that have never played or rarely played? Are they so bad they don't get a look in? Do we have no defenders, midfielders, strikers that can be utilised. NA accepted the job and the squad and the way Reading operate so he has no excuses. BMcD know how to bring the best out of players even poor ones. NA needs to master this


I would wager significant sums of money that Adkins accepted the job having been promised that he would be given the funds and allowed to make the signings that he needed to change the squad. All that went by the board when Madejski allowed himself to be sold a pup.

And who are the magnificent squad members that aren't getting a look in?


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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by floyd__streete » 21 Dec 2013 19:38

The worse we perform, the poorer the results become, the more the Adkinsistas dig their heels in and get all aggressive about it. Deluded.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Avon Royal » 21 Dec 2013 19:46

floyd__streete The worse we perform, the poorer the results become, the more the Adkinsistas dig their heels in and get all aggressive about it. Deluded.


Nice signature.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by floyd__streete » 21 Dec 2013 19:47

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floyd__streete The worse we perform, the poorer the results become, the more the Adkinsistas dig their heels in and get all aggressive about it. Deluded.


Nice signature.


Aha Avon Royal. The Murray Walker of HNA. Everything he says turns out to be wrong.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by LoyalRoyalFan » 21 Dec 2013 19:48

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floyd__streete The worse we perform, the poorer the results become, the more the Adkinsistas dig their heels in and get all aggressive about it. Deluded.


Nice signature.


Aha Avon Royal. The Murray Walker of HNA. Everything he says turns out to be wrong.


He longed for McDermott to be sacked, and therefore isn't a supporter of this club.


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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by floyd__streete » 21 Dec 2013 19:51

LoyalRoyalFan He longed for McDermott to be sacked


I'd also ask the court to take more than 4,800 posts of complete poppycock into consideration.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Avon Royal » 21 Dec 2013 19:57

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LoyalRoyalFan He longed for McDermott to be sacked


I'd also ask the court to take more than 4,800 posts of complete poppycock into consideration.


Oh the irony.......... :lol:

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Man Friday » 21 Dec 2013 20:02

Putting a :lol: doesn't help your cause. Just confirms you've either nothing to say or complete bollox.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Avon Royal » 21 Dec 2013 20:06

Man Friday Putting a :lol: doesn't help your cause. Just confirms you've either nothing to say or complete bollox.


:roll:

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by floyd__streete » 21 Dec 2013 20:09

Man Friday Putting a :lol: doesn't help your cause. Just confirms you've either nothing to say or complete bollox.


Tbf to Avon Royal, the nicest thing I can say about him is that if his name appears against 'Last Post' in a thread it is always worth opening said thread to see what latest ludicrous witterings he has offered.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by Avon Royal » 21 Dec 2013 20:22

That's quite sweet really.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by paddy20 » 21 Dec 2013 20:53

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LoyalRoyalFan Granted that the title is badly worded, but to put it simply; Nigel Adkins and the Reading fans will just never get along. He isn't the type of manager we need, or want, and the connection between the fans, most of the playing staff, and Nigel himself just isn't there.

The ownership situation doesn't help, but the feeling around the club is one of negativity, and explains why so many people have chosen to boycott the Adkins Revolution.


Anyone with half a brain who listened to Adkins' post match interview tonight would realise just how stupid and absolutely wrong your remarks are.

'Not the type of manager we need or want' ? He is absolutely the type of manager we need. Unlike some of our stupid fans, he realises that it is no good getting promoted to the PL playing Championship 'energy/percentage football' and then trying to adapt when you are there. The PL is far too unforgiving for that and you are simply not given the time and opportunities to change your players and style when you get there. That is the reason McDermott and his squad failed so dramatically last season.

That being the case, you have to change to PL style posession football whilst you are in the Championship and get promoted playing that way. That is what Adkins is trying to do but it isn't a quick process and his task hasn't been made any easier by the squad and preferred playing style of some of the players he inherited. He isn't wanted by some of our fans and the connection with them is missing because they are the greedy and spoilt 21st Century want it now type who fail to realise that you have to work hard to achieve somethings and reward/success doesn't always come over night.

If we stick with Adkins (and Madejski manages to sort out the mess created by his first attempt to sell the club) we will get promoted but it may not be this season or possibly even next. However, when we do get promoted, we will do so in a highly enjoyable and entertaining way and will have a fantastic and very realistic chance of remaining in the PL far longer than we have on the previous two occasions.

Will our owner(s), Chairman, Board and supporters have the patience and nerve required to ensure that this happens or will we end up knee jerking and firing the very manager that we do need?


For the first time Adkins tried to explain what he is trying to do. Only problem with that is it aint working. How long do we wait for that as at the moment we haven't got many players that are suited to his preferred style. It will mean changing most of the team. Meanwhile the performances have deteriorated and the enjoyment of watching has ebbed away. So we will need a new owner with loads of cash but if that doesn't happen support will dwindle and we will become a very average champ. side with a 12000 following. Cant see how the present team will suddenly get the system and start playing good football if after 30 or so games it hasn't been able to.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by sandman » 21 Dec 2013 22:19

bobby1413 PATHETIC attitude.

I can't think of anyone I'd rather have. Look at his track record, look at where he came from. People like you haven't got a bloody clue. I think in months to come you'll be eating your words, as I can well imagine us rocketing back up the table - not promotion necessarily, but a solid play off place with good performances and a good team.

<sarcastic tone on>
sure let's sack Nigel, and get in someone else. Like... who can Reading attract? Really... I can't think of anyone else.
</sarcastic tone off>


His track record is totally irrelevant to the thread. No one is saying he doesn't have decent record elsewhere the subject is whether he fits in here. Just because he's been successful elsewhere doesn't mean he will fit in and be a success at Reading.
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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by SPARTA » 21 Dec 2013 22:24

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SPARTA The Reading type? There isn't one. McDermott played long ball and you loved him. Adkins has reverted to it because these players can't yet play it out from the back - admitted so today. Some of you need to take a look at yourselves and look up what support means.


Have your 'sources' told you otherwise?

:lol:


Sources that mentioned a new investor..? that SJM admitted today he expects soon? Oh.

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by mambo3 » 21 Dec 2013 22:30

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mambo3 Where are the other squad members that have never played or rarely played? Are they so bad they don't get a look in? Do we have no defenders, midfielders, strikers that can be utilised. NA accepted the job and the squad and the way Reading operate so he has no excuses. BMcD know how to bring the best out of players even poor ones. NA needs to master this


I would wager significant sums of money that Adkins accepted the job having been promised that he would be given the funds and allowed to make the signings that he needed to change the squad. All that went by the board when Madejski allowed himself to be sold a pup.

And who are the magnificent squad members that aren't getting a look in?


Each of the following can are comfortable to work the NA game of passing and possession and technically more gifted.

Samuel
Taylor
Tanner
Gozie
Tishbola

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Re: Adkins just isn't the 'Reading' type

by RoyalBlue » 21 Dec 2013 22:51

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mambo3 Where are the other squad members that have never played or rarely played? Are they so bad they don't get a look in? Do we have no defenders, midfielders, strikers that can be utilised. NA accepted the job and the squad and the way Reading operate so he has no excuses. BMcD know how to bring the best out of players even poor ones. NA needs to master this


I would wager significant sums of money that Adkins accepted the job having been promised that he would be given the funds and allowed to make the signings that he needed to change the squad. All that went by the board when Madejski allowed himself to be sold a pup.

And who are the magnificent squad members that aren't getting a look in?


Each of the following can are comfortable to work the NA game of passing and possession and technically more gifted.

Samuel
Taylor
Tanner
Gozie
Tishbola


Big difference between playing in U21 games and holding your own in the Championship. You say they are better suited to the NA game but clearly the manager feels they aren't yet ready for the first team.

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