Mark Bowen

[Forbury Lion]

The club is a total shambles at the moment, but I can get why it may be appealing to Bowen.

Dai has oxf*rd up big time, and there's a chance he may realise that. The appointment of Bowen, and some of the other backroom staff, suggests that the new approach would be for the Dai and Pang to step back a bit and for Bowen and the rest of his team to be running things.

While there's big problems now, if the club can turn things around then it would leave Bowen in a decent position. He'd be effectively running the footballing side of a club while a rich and distant owner funds it all. A boss who stays out of the way and lets you get on with things would appeal to a lot of people! On top of that, the club has potential: a decent stadium, good training facilities, an academy with the potential to return to the top category etc.

If things to get better then Bowen gets a chance at turning the club in to a success. And if it doesn't get better then nobody will blame him. If anything, he may come out of this looking better for having tried his best in the face of significant challenges. If I were him then I might be tempted to stick around for this season and see how things go.

Dai doesn't realise his mistakes, let alone learn from them. Two clubs have already gone to the wall under his incompetant ownership, and Reading Football Club are on a frigheningly similar path.

I doubt he will publicly admit to any mistakes, In my mind his only mistakes are listening to the wrong people and giving power to make decisions to the wrong people.

[WestYorksRoyal]

So, another season and everything is even worse. How accountable is Mark Bowen? I feel like his recruitment for the past 2 seasons has been as good as we can expect in difficult circumstances, but the Selles appointment is a disaster and is ruining the belief of our squad. I think he needs to shoulder his share of the blame. Put it this way, if a new owner came in and appointed their own DoF I don't think anybody would be crying any tears.

If that did happen, I'd love to see him do a lengthy interview on what this club was like. Nobody knows what really happened with Wilder and how we ended up with Selles - if that was ultimately a result of Dai and his super agents then you can basically absolve Bowen of blame.

[Sutekh]

So, another season and everything is even worse. How accountable is Mark Bowen? I feel like his recruitment for the past 2 seasons has been as good as we can expect in difficult circumstances, but the Selles appointment is a disaster and is ruining the belief of our squad. I think he needs to shoulder his share of the blame. Put it this way, if a new owner came in and appointed their own DoF I don't think anybody would be crying any tears.

If that did happen, I'd love to see him do a lengthy interview on what this club was like. Nobody knows what really happened with Wilder and how we ended up with Selles - if that was ultimately a result of Dai and his super agents then you can basically absolve Bowen of blame.

The story with Wilder is thoroughly believable in that he did not want to "touch" a club that, after considerable thought, he felt was such a complete mess behind the scenes. What happened to opt suddenly for Selles is another story. Perhaps he was the only one desperate enough for the job.

[NathStPaul]

So, another season and everything is even worse. How accountable is Mark Bowen? I feel like his recruitment for the past 2 seasons has been as good as we can expect in difficult circumstances, but the Selles appointment is a disaster and is ruining the belief of our squad. I think he needs to shoulder his share of the blame. Put it this way, if a new owner came in and appointed their own DoF I don't think anybody would be crying any tears.

If that did happen, I'd love to see him do a lengthy interview on what this club was like. Nobody knows what really happened with Wilder and how we ended up with Selles - if that was ultimately a result of Dai and his super agents then you can basically absolve Bowen of blame.

I was hoping this would come up. I think Bowen gets away with getting a lot of the blame due to Dai being an absolute crook but I absolutely group Bowen in with being part of the problem and not the solution.

[URZZZZ]

So, another season and everything is even worse. How accountable is Mark Bowen? I feel like his recruitment for the past 2 seasons has been as good as we can expect in difficult circumstances, but the Selles appointment is a disaster and is ruining the belief of our squad. I think he needs to shoulder his share of the blame. Put it this way, if a new owner came in and appointed their own DoF I don't think anybody would be crying any tears.

If that did happen, I'd love to see him do a lengthy interview on what this club was like. Nobody knows what really happened with Wilder and how we ended up with Selles - if that was ultimately a result of Dai and his super agents then you can basically absolve Bowen of blame.

I was hoping this would come up. I think Bowen gets away with getting a lot of the blame due to Dai being an absolute crook but I absolutely group Bowen in with being part of the problem and not the solution.

One thing is for sure IMO. Distant past now but we’d be in a much better position now if we’d stuck with him as manager

[WestYorksRoyal]

But, unlike many, his record is not one of unmitigated failure. Our decent signings in the past 5 years like Morrison and Laurent all have his fingerprints on. He allegedly wanted to sack Ince earlier last year. I think he's moderately competent and that isn't enough for our situation. If we had stable ownership, he wouldn't be transforming us into Brentford but he'd probably have us holding our own in the Championship.

But Selles is on him. Even if Dai meddled with the recruitment process, Bowen was happy to give him a glowing endorsement and pin his credibility on him.

[YorkshireRoyal99]

Bowen, like everyone else, has his share of the blame somewhere. The situation for sure hasn't helped him, but he can't manage up which is a big problem in the job he is doing and has to have a fair share of the responsibility for where we are now as well. It's one of those, nobody is blameless. Dai takes the majority on the chin as it all boils down to him, but there has also been some poor decisions managerially and recruitment wise.

[Elm Park Kid]

From what I've heard, I think his ego gets the better of him sometimes.

[Royal_jimmy]

But, unlike many, his record is not one of unmitigated failure. Our decent signings in the past 5 years like Morrison and Laurent all have his fingerprints on. He allegedly wanted to sack Ince earlier last year. I think he's moderately competent and that isn't enough for our situation. If we had stable ownership, he wouldn't be transforming us into Brentford but he'd probably have us holding our own in the Championship.

But Selles is on him. Even if Dai meddled with the recruitment process, Bowen was happy to give him a glowing endorsement and pin his credibility on him.

I guess we won't know, Selles could have been our 4th or 5th choice and we were never going to poach a manager who was already in a job due to the financial situation. Wilder dodged a bullet not coming here.

[Stranded]

In retrospect, as soon as it became clear the kind of manager we wanted wouldn't touch us, instead of going down the potentially promising coach route - he would have been better going down the in house appointment route and letting Hunt have a proper crack.

[Elm Park Kid]

The dream would be that new owners come in, immediately sort out the finances, get rid of Selles and are able to entice WIlder back to a now stable club.

Though, sounds like WIlder is going back to Sheffield.

[WestYorksRoyal]

The dream would be that new owners come in, immediately sort out the finances, get rid of Selles and are able to entice WIlder back to a now stable club.

Though, sounds like WIlder is going back to Sheffield.

There are others. Cowley still available? In the summer people rubbished his record at Portsmouth. I agree all our options are terrible while Dai remains.

[Whore Jackie]

Remain absolutely convinced that whenever a big decision needs to be made, Bowen's input is largely limited by those above. Think he's done a lot of decent stuff in extremely tough circumstances. Wilder was his man and Dai, Pang, Kia, whoever vetoed it, preferring a young, shiny, continental PL coach. Those three footballing decisions are why we're where we are, not Bowen.

[Sutekh]

Nathan Jones and Rob Edwards when Luton kick him out later this season. Mark Hughes is available again. All are a few steps up from the current mess.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Nathan Jones and Rob Edwards when Luton kick him out later this season. Mark Hughes is available again. All are a few steps up from the current mess.

Chuck some money on Dai bringing Di Canio back from the wilderness.

[Sutekh]

Remain absolutely convinced that whenever a big decision needs to be made, Bowen's input is largely limited by those above. Think he's done a lot of decent stuff in extremely tough circumstances. Wilder was his man and Dai, Pang, Kia, whoever vetoed it, preferring a young, shiny, continental PL coach. Those three footballing decisions are why we're where we are, not Bowen.

Absolutely no more shiny shoed greasy haired nothing-between managers,

Let's start a Petition for Parky.

Don't think Altrincham would be interested in letting him leave just now though.

[WestYorksRoyal]

The obsession with Parky is nuts. Would he be an excellent appointment? Probably.

Would he leave the project at Wrexham to come here in our current state? Let's end this delusion please.

[NathStPaul]

Or you could just ignore the racist?

[Snowflake Royal]

Or you could just ignore the racist?

THIS

[Pepe the Horseman]

So, another season and everything is even worse. How accountable is Mark Bowen? I feel like his recruitment for the past 2 seasons has been as good as we can expect in difficult circumstances, but the Selles appointment is a disaster and is ruining the belief of our squad. I think he needs to shoulder his share of the blame. Put it this way, if a new owner came in and appointed their own DoF I don't think anybody would be crying any tears.

If that did happen, I'd love to see him do a lengthy interview on what this club was like. Nobody knows what really happened with Wilder and how we ended up with Selles - if that was ultimately a result of Dai and his super agents then you can basically absolve Bowen of blame.

I was hoping this would come up. I think Bowen gets away with getting a lot of the blame due to Dai being an absolute crook but I absolutely group Bowen in with being part of the problem and not the solution.

I said when we appointed Selles that if it was his choice, he needs to be held responsible when it all goes wrong. And if it wasn't his choice he might as well not be at the club.