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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by winchester_royal » 20 Sep 2013 15:23

Bump.

#HammondOut
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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by melonhead » 20 Sep 2013 15:39

#morons out
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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by Extended-Phenotype » 20 Sep 2013 16:24

Old CB on a 3 month deal.
Billy Sharp possibly on loan.

Extravagant.

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by Franchise FC » 20 Sep 2013 16:31

Extended-Phenotype Old CB on a 3 month deal.
Billy Sharp possibly on loan.

Extravagant.


If it means we make the play-offs (or heaven forbid, automatic) on the back of a few cheapies, why wouldn't we celebrate that success ?

But no ... we would get the same moaning about how 'we'd have won it by more if we'd spent more ...' BS that we always do.

Each to their own, but I'll wait and see what this brings

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by Extended-Phenotype » 20 Sep 2013 16:37

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Extended-Phenotype Old CB on a 3 month deal.
Billy Sharp possibly on loan.

Extravagant.


If it means we make the play-offs (or heaven forbid, automatic) on the back of a few cheapies, why wouldn't we celebrate that success ?

But no ... we would get the same moaning about how 'we'd have won it by more if we'd spent more ...' BS that we always do.

Each to their own, but I'll wait and see what this brings


Just sayin'. It's hardly an "IN YOUR FACE, MONEY DOUBTERS!!!" moment.


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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by winchester_royal » 20 Sep 2013 16:40

I'd say, given that we know both will be on more than competitive championship wages, that it casts pretty significant doubt on all the anti-Anton crap that people have been coming out with over the last few weeks.

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by Extended-Phenotype » 20 Sep 2013 16:41

EDIT: Billy Sharp until January.

Anton, stop spoiling us.

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by P!ssed Off » 20 Sep 2013 17:06

winchester_royal I'd say, given that we know both will be on more than competitive championship wages, that it casts pretty significant doubt on all the anti-Anton crap that people have been coming out with over the last few weeks.


Sharps' apparent wages = £18K per week.
Assuming maximum 93 day loan, then total expenditure = £18K * ~ 13 weeks.
= £234K

Assuming Baird is on a similar amount then that's probably another ~ £250K.

Total overall (likely maximum) expenditure ~ £500K

I think even the greatest doubters of Anton's financial capabilities could have envisaged Anton expending £500K over 3 months on a loan signing and a free transfer.

They're decent signings, but it is pretty hard to dress them up as evidence of financial capability winchester_royal.
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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by Extended-Phenotype » 20 Sep 2013 17:09

BUMP BUMP!! WE'VE SPENT 500k!!!!!


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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by winchester_royal » 20 Sep 2013 17:26

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winchester_royal I'd say, given that we know both will be on more than competitive championship wages, that it casts pretty significant doubt on all the anti-Anton crap that people have been coming out with over the last few weeks.


Sharps' apparent wages = £18K per week.
Assuming maximum 93 day loan, then total expenditure = £18K * ~ 13 weeks.
= £234K

Assuming Baird is on a similar amount then that's probably another ~ £250K.

Total overall (likely maximum) expenditure ~ £500K

I think even the greatest doubters of Anton's financial capabilities could have envisaged Anton expending £500K over 3 months on a loan signing and a free transfer.

They're decent signings, but it is pretty hard to dress them up as evidence of financial capability winchester_royal.


And you think if Anton was about to pull out of a deal to buy the club we'd be sanctioning these types of wages?

This is £500k that is being spent purely on the ST. We'll get no 'resale' value out of this 500k, it won't add to the value of the club, this is 500k being spent on giving us the best chance of getting promoted.

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by P!ssed Off » 20 Sep 2013 17:29

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winchester_royal I'd say, given that we know both will be on more than competitive championship wages, that it casts pretty significant doubt on all the anti-Anton crap that people have been coming out with over the last few weeks.


Sharps' apparent wages = £18K per week.
Assuming maximum 93 day loan, then total expenditure = £18K * ~ 13 weeks.
= £234K

Assuming Baird is on a similar amount then that's probably another ~ £250K.

Total overall (likely maximum) expenditure ~ £500K

I think even the greatest doubters of Anton's financial capabilities could have envisaged Anton expending £500K over 3 months on a loan signing and a free transfer.

They're decent signings, but it is pretty hard to dress them up as evidence of financial capability winchester_royal.


And you think if Anton was about to pull out of a deal to buy the club we'd be sanctioning these types of wages?

This is £500k that is being spent purely on the ST. We'll get no 'resale' value out of this 500k, it won't add to the value of the club, this is 500k being spent on giving us the best chance of getting promoted.


It's still not a lot of money tbh.
Good signings? Yes
A slap in the face to those saying Anton hasn't got much money? No.

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by winchester_royal » 20 Sep 2013 17:30

£500k isn't a lot of money?

Jesus wept. Football's gone mad if people actually believe this to be the case.

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by P!ssed Off » 20 Sep 2013 17:34

winchester_royal £500k isn't a lot of money?

Jesus wept. Football's gone mad if people actually believe this to be the case.


Too true. Jesus would indeed weep.
500K is an amount we could afford to spend on a single transfer 10 years ago.
It's definitely not a lot of money in football, whether you want to make a silly comment like that or not.

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A prolific spell at the Abbey Stadium prompted Reading to pay around the £750k mark for his services in February 2000.


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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by Extended-Phenotype » 20 Sep 2013 17:38

winchester_royal £500k isn't a lot of money?

Jesus wept. Football's gone mad if people actually believe this to be the case.


In comparison to our annual salaries, it is.
In comparison to parachute payments and money RFC received in player sales. It isn't.

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by winchester_royal » 20 Sep 2013 17:38

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winchester_royal £500k isn't a lot of money?

Jesus wept. Football's gone mad if people actually believe this to be the case.


Too true. Jesus would indeed weep.
500K is an amount we could afford to spend on a single transfer 10 years ago.
It's definitely not a lot of money in football, whether you want to make a silly comment like that or not.


There's a huge difference between paying 500k for a guy who (you believe at least) will be increasing in value over the next 3 years, and paying 500k over 4 months for players who will be worth nothing to you at the end of those 4 months.

It's like comparing buying a 500k house, and spending 4 months in a rented house paying £125000pcm. Not comparable in the slightest.

500k is a lot of money, whether SSN would let you believe it or not, hence why so many championship clubs have struggled to fund a loan move for Sharp.

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by Victor Meldrew » 20 Sep 2013 17:47

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winchester_royal £500k isn't a lot of money?

Jesus wept. Football's gone mad if people actually believe this to be the case.


Too true. Jesus would indeed weep.
500K is an amount we could afford to spend on a single transfer 10 years ago.
It's definitely not a lot of money in football, whether you want to make a silly comment like that or not.


There's a huge difference between paying 500k for a guy who (you believe at least) will be increasing in value over the next 3 years, and paying 500k over 4 months for players who will be worth nothing to you at the end of those 4 months.

It's like comparing buying a 500k house, and spending 4 months in a rented house paying £125000pcm. Not comparable in the slightest.

500k is a lot of money, whether SSN would let you believe it or not, hence why so many championship clubs have struggled to fund a loan move for Sharp.


Of course it is not a lot of money for a club guaranteed £12.5 million or so of parachute money each year for the next 4 years = £50,000,000.
Just have another look at all of those noughts.
If the players helped us get promoted it would be dead money well spent as next season we would get something like £50,000,000 in one year only.
As Floyd said it doesn't take much to get you excited and as others have said we spent more on Butler back then and even more on Caskey when we were at Elm Park.

Have you heard of Elm Park?

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by melonhead » 20 Sep 2013 17:48

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Billy Sharp possibly on loan.

Extravagant.



never promised extravagant
dont want extravagant
so...

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by melonhead » 20 Sep 2013 17:49

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winchester_royal I'd say, given that we know both will be on more than competitive championship wages, that it casts pretty significant doubt on all the anti-Anton crap that people have been coming out with over the last few weeks.


Sharps' apparent wages = £18K per week.
Assuming maximum 93 day loan, then total expenditure = £18K * ~ 13 weeks.
= £234K

Assuming Baird is on a similar amount then that's probably another ~ £250K.

Total overall (likely maximum) expenditure ~ £500K

I think even the greatest doubters of Anton's financial capabilities could have envisaged Anton expending £500K over 3 months on a loan signing and a free transfer.

They're decent signings, but it is pretty hard to dress them up as evidence of financial capability winchester_royal.



added to what we already got in........
added to the rest being spent on our facilities....

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by melonhead » 20 Sep 2013 17:50

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winchester_royal £500k isn't a lot of money?

Jesus wept. Football's gone mad if people actually believe this to be the case.


In comparison to our annual salaries, it is.
In comparison to parachute payments and money RFC received in player sales. It isn't.


parachutes are to transition the wage bill between prem and champ.
not to finance extravagant spending to get back up straight away

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Re: Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

by royalp-we » 20 Sep 2013 19:56

11/12
Cywka
Roberts

12/13
Taylor
Shorey
Gunter
Mariappa
McCleary
Akpan
Carrico
Guthrie
Pogrebnyak

13/14
Bridge
Baird
Williams
Drenthe
*Sharp


On paper (I know four have already departed) we should currently be watching one of the best RFC teams ever.

Even if we don't get *Sharp, it's up to the manager to get Antons army playing as a team.

That is a fair load of wages right there^.... and I may have missed a few and haven't taken into account losing Kebe, Harte, Hunt and Churchy; but forget the finances - 2/3rds of the above wouldn't have even been attracted to us under SJM's tenure.




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