Adkins - Pros and Cons

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by WoodleyRoyal » 20 Oct 2014 15:04

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Sanguine And you think he would move to Reading?


I've got no idea, and no idea about who else l would bring in. Shit. I know i will just troll the fans who are talking sense

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Sanguine » 20 Oct 2014 15:05

WoodleyRoyal :lol: F*cking hell woodcote that some seriously lame shit right there, even by your standards


'greed.

And if our ability to attract a decent manager has diminished (I'd argue not much), it's down to the ownership situation at the club.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Woodcote Royal » 20 Oct 2014 15:05

WoodleyRoyal :lol: F*cking hell woodcote that some seriously lame shit right there, even by your standards


:lol:

Thanks for reminding why I rarely bother with this place these days

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by WoodleyRoyal » 20 Oct 2014 15:07

carefull the door doesn't hit you on the way out

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Woodcote Royal » 20 Oct 2014 15:07

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Sanguine And you think he would move to Reading?


I've got no idea, and no idea about who else l would bring in. Shit. I know i will just troll the fans who are talking sense


I didn't need a second reminder :D


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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Woodcote Royal » 20 Oct 2014 15:09

WoodleyRoyal carefull the door doesn't hit you on the way out


I'll be carefull, thanks :lol:

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by WoodleyRoyal » 20 Oct 2014 15:17

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WoodleyRoyal carefull the door doesn't hit you on the way out


I'll be carefull, thanks :lol:


:lol: ........ :| :arrow:

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by sandman » 20 Oct 2014 15:57

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Sanguine And you think he would move to Reading?

Just suggesting here that sacking a manager with no plan what comes next would be utterly foolish. So who is coming in, and what will they do differently?


We're 3 months into the season, and staring relegation in the face.!!!!!!!!!!

Were McD still manager, we'd be 78 points clear at the top by now, Karacan would have recovered from his injury by mid August, AZ would have bankrolled the signing of Kuna Aguero, McCarthy would still be here, grown another two arms, and has successfully displaced Joe Hart as England No.1. The Ebola outbreak would not have happened. ISIS would be a beacon for peace and moderation.
Can't you see????? It's all bleedin' Adkins' fault


Again you're making stuff up and trying to paint people in a negative light to suit your own agenda. No one has ever said that if Brian was still here we'd be running away with the league. We just want to see improvement, some sign that our manager and coaches know how to get our team into a cohesive unit that can at least get the basics right. Unfortunately since they arrived 20 months ago they have not shown anything to suggest any of that is happening

It won't work out for him here, he's just not a proper part of the club and it's clear he isn't suited to us. As I've said before, that happens sometimes. At the time he was appointed the Saints fans said it was a bad move for him so it's not just us saying he wouldn't and won't work out here.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Sanguine » 20 Oct 2014 15:59

sandman We just want to see improvement, some sign that our manager and coaches know how to get our team into a cohesive unit that can at least get the basics right. Unfortunately since they arrived 20 months ago they have not shown anything to suggest any of that is happening



That's simply not true, which is where your argument becomes no more substantial than the ones you criticise.


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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Extended-Phenotype » 20 Oct 2014 16:02

Bar a few players, I think we have shown signs of a becoming a cohesive unit. If Pearce could "get the basics right" or we had someone to pick in his place, we'd probably be higher up the table.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Sanguine » 20 Oct 2014 16:10

Extended-Phenotype Bar a few players, I think we have shown signs of a becoming a cohesive unit. If Pearce could "get the basics right" or we had someone to pick in his place, we'd probably be higher up the table.


Agreed, we are a few 'little bits' from a far more cohesive peformance - a little more composure at the back, the midfield playing more consistently as a unit, slightly better finishing. But we haven't played badly for long spells at all.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by WoodleyRoyal » 20 Oct 2014 16:12

2 things with Pearce - he has always struggled playing on the left side of CB and he has always needed a experianced CB along side him. He cant cope with looking after his own game and leading another, this is why when playing alongside Gorkks he looked very comfortable and we won the league.
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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Extended-Phenotype » 20 Oct 2014 16:16

The spine of a team is the most important aspect for consistency.

The spine is strongest with a solid CB pairing and a defensively balanced midfield.

We don't have either.

The best tactics in the world aren't going to compensate for that.


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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by wingnut » 20 Oct 2014 16:25

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sandman We just want to see improvement, some sign that our manager and coaches know how to get our team into a cohesive unit that can at least get the basics right. Unfortunately since they arrived 20 months ago they have not shown anything to suggest any of that is happening



That's simply not true, which is where your argument becomes no more substantial than the ones you criticise.

Can you honestly say you haven't seen the same mistakes being made time and again? Is not defending properly "getting the basics right"?

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Sanguine » 20 Oct 2014 16:43

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sandman We just want to see improvement, some sign that our manager and coaches know how to get our team into a cohesive unit that can at least get the basics right. Unfortunately since they arrived 20 months ago they have not shown anything to suggest any of that is happening



That's simply not true, which is where your argument becomes no more substantial than the ones you criticise.

Can you honestly say you haven't seen the same mistakes being made time and again? Is not defending properly "getting the basics right"?


But a lot of the time we have got the basics right. The last couple of weeks have been strange, but we were pretty good against Wolves, and the first half hour against Millwall was as good as we have played for years.

I'm flummoxed as to how so few are prepared to give Adkins the benefit of the doubt whilst he tries to climb into the play-off spots with a team without an entire first-choice midfield, and having lost an England goalkeeper, key central defender and top scorer over the summer.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by wingnut » 20 Oct 2014 16:56

Hmm. I missed the a Wolves game but from what I remember of the Millwall game we were extremely fortunate to win that with many of the same mistakes made by the defence yet again.

I've no idea what Adkins's first choice central midfield would be, and, I suspect, neither does he. I would also guess that he was indifferent, at best, to Alf going, given that he was hardly a regular starter for him.
I'll give you Morrison but, given his form both before and after his move to Cardiff I doubt that he would've made much difference.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Woodcote Royal » 20 Oct 2014 16:59

sandman We just want to see improvement, some sign that our manager and coaches know how to get our team into a cohesive unit that can at least get the basics right. Unfortunately since they arrived 20 months ago they have not shown anything to suggest any of that is happening


You be "carefull" not to "troll" those who are forming an orderly queue to have Nige's babies (under a park bench in Woodley possibly)

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Sanguine » 20 Oct 2014 17:04

wingnut Hmm. I missed the a Wolves game but from what I remember of the Millwall game we were extremely fortunate to win that with many of the same mistakes made by the defence yet again.

I've no idea what Adkins's first choice central midfield would be, and, I suspect, neither does he. I would also guess that he was indifferent, at best, to Alf going, given that he was hardly a regular starter for him.
I'll give you Morrison but, given his form both before and after his move to Cardiff I doubt that he would've made much difference.


You don't suspect he'd play Williams, Karacan and McCleary given a chance? Come on now.

The point re Millwall was that we played decent football. The signs are there. Yes, the defence lapsed, it's a bit of a problem, but not reason enough to sack Adkins.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Sanguine » 20 Oct 2014 17:07

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sandman We just want to see improvement, some sign that our manager and coaches know how to get our team into a cohesive unit that can at least get the basics right. Unfortunately since they arrived 20 months ago they have not shown anything to suggest any of that is happening


You be "carefull" not to "troll" those who are forming an orderly queue to have Nige's babies (under a park bench in Woodley possibly)


How's that list of replacements going? And what will the new guy do differently?

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Woodcote Royal » 20 Oct 2014 17:11

wingnut Is not defending properly "getting the basics right"?


I guess it depends whether we are talking about Adkins (for whom either penalty area is not a priority) or any other league manager who expects to be judged first on results with style coming a poor second at best.

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