MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by URZZZZ » 18 Oct 2022 22:11

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At least Rahman should be out of the side for another 5 games after that terrible showing.


Actually think Rahman and Ejaria were two of our better performers, one of the few able to retain any sort of possession. The trouble is whilst they look neat and tidy, nothing ever comes of it. And we’re too used to seeing it

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by Hound » 18 Oct 2022 22:13

blythspartan We looked good against Blackburn but all the other wins have been hard fought ugly performances. I am under no illusions about this season and I’d take 21st right now.

We never deserved anything against Swansea and being 2-0 up completely flattered us. Ince needs to sort this out but I am not sure he has the tactical acumen. I like him a lot tbf but not convinced he’ll be here beyond Christmas.


Yep similar

I’ve never once stopped checking on the results at the bottom and taken zero interest in what’s been happening at the top tbh

Tbf that’s 3 pretty tough games - Norwich, QPR and Swansea - where we’ve had chances to win the game. Just need to keep their heads and confidence and get another win under the belt again

Agree Saturday is a big one

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 18 Oct 2022 22:13

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CountryRoyal Why does NGW, who is more of a wing back than Rahman and who has significantly outperformed this season, remain on the bench when its clear we need to pose more of an attacking threat?

At least Rahman should be out of the side for another 5 games after that terrible showing.


Actually think Rahman and Ejaria were two of our better performers, one of the few able to retain any sort of possession. The trouble is whilst they look neat and tidy, nothing ever comes of it. And we’re too used to seeing it

And they both gave it away in dangerous positions and Rahman can't cross for toffee.

I think their introduction and our improvement coincided with Swansea getting their breakthrough and being able to ease off, combined with our desperation to need to get back into.

We stated playing higher just the same in the last game when we went 2 down without them.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by Royal Rother » 18 Oct 2022 22:15

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CountryRoyal Its ridiculous, I maintain there are good players in this team. I've seen us play some great stuff. It's just abysmal tactics and management letting us down at the moment sadly.


We’ve done ok players, but who is genuinely good?

Ince has faded (understandably), Meite not yet the same since he did his knee - anyone else?

Likes of Holmes and Loum ok at times but genuinely think you need to be realistic on the quality we have


You don’t need allstars you just need a team that knows what it’s meant to do.

After the tactics and performances of the last 3 games along with previous debacles I’m beginning to have doubts about Ince.


Having lauded him a couple of weeks ago I feel a bit dirty going along with this but the way he has sent out his team since then has been utter shite.

And today, the time wasting from minute 1 was clearly part of the plan. Which is just plain horrible.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by leon » 18 Oct 2022 22:17

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We’ve done ok players, but who is genuinely good?

Ince has faded (understandably), Meite not yet the same since he did his knee - anyone else?

Likes of Holmes and Loum ok at times but genuinely think you need to be realistic on the quality we have


You don’t need allstars you just need a team that knows what it’s meant to do.

After the tactics and performances of the last 3 games along with previous debacles I’m beginning to have doubts about Ince.


Having lauded him a couple of weeks ago I feel a bit dirty going along with this but the way he has sent out his team since then has been utter shite.

And today, the time wasting from minute 1 was clearly part of the plan. Which is just plain horrible.


I said beginning. I’d rather not.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by Zip » 18 Oct 2022 22:18

Just how bad was Saturday in reality? A West Brom side in dire straits beat us pretty comfortably for their first win since August. They then lose at home to Brizzle tonight.

West Brom's defence was really struggling in the final twenty minutes when we finally played on the front foot. It was inexcusable to lose the way we did.

On Saturday we must be far more aggressive. Biggest game of the season so far. Win and we have a healthy buffer. Lose and we will be bottom half with a horrible run of games to follow.

This could unravel very quickly for Ince.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by Royal Rother » 18 Oct 2022 22:20

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You don’t need allstars you just need a team that knows what it’s meant to do.

After the tactics and performances of the last 3 games along with previous debacles I’m beginning to have doubts about Ince.


Having lauded him a couple of weeks ago I feel a bit dirty going along with this but the way he has sent out his team since then has been utter shite.

And today, the time wasting from minute 1 was clearly part of the plan. Which is just plain horrible.


I said beginning. I’d rather not.


I know you said “beginning” - that’s where I am too.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by windermereROYAL » 18 Oct 2022 22:28

Everyone thought the Norwich draw was a good result, since then both teams have lost all they`re games

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by karbota » 18 Oct 2022 22:29

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CountryRoyal Its ridiculous, I maintain there are good players in this team. I've seen us play some great stuff. It's just abysmal tactics and management letting us down at the moment sadly.


We’ve done ok players, but who is genuinely good?

Ince has faded (understandably), Meite not yet the same since he did his knee - anyone else?

Likes of Holmes and Loum ok at times but genuinely think you need to be realistic on the quality we have


You don’t need allstars you just need a team that knows what it’s meant to do.

After the tactics and performances of the last 3 games along with previous debacles I’m beginning to have doubts about Ince.


You're slow again Leon but at last, showing some progress.
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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by karbota » 18 Oct 2022 22:33

windermereROYAL Everyone thought the Norwich draw was a good result, since then both teams have lost all they`re games


Their. Are you also known as Despair?

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by Notts Royal » 18 Oct 2022 22:39

Should’ve cashed in in Joao in the summer.

We’re not playing to his strengths & he can’t be arsed

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by windermereROYAL » 18 Oct 2022 22:42

Pince said we played well :shock:

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by Jackson Corner » 18 Oct 2022 22:44

I really thought he had turned the corner at the start of the season. But the last few games Tom Holmes does not look good enough to play at this level.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by Jackson Corner » 18 Oct 2022 22:45

windermereROYAL Pince said we played well :shock:


What game was he watching? 3-2 flattered us.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by windermereROYAL » 18 Oct 2022 22:51

Next two home games are huge, both will be extremely difficult because I can`t see us getting a single point away from home before the WC.
Hopefully by December we will have Sarr and Hutch back. Holmes and TMac are just not good enough as a pairing.
We are definitely looking down instead of up now.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by CountryRoyal » 18 Oct 2022 23:00

windermereROYAL Pince said we played well :shock:


Oh dear. Pauno all over again.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by Millsy » 18 Oct 2022 23:46

Let's not wet our beds too much guys.

I've since calmed down and can see it for what it was - a shit performance where 3-2 flattered us, but we forget we had to play a right back as CB, two of the worst performing defenders in recent history at as the other CBs, a n00b kid at RB and for some reason a winger at LB.

Things haven't suddenly changed just because we're performing way over expectations. The fact is still that we have a medical/science team not fit for the Champ so silly injuries, we have been forced into freebies and loanees and the upshot is we're trying to put a defence together out of nothing.

Let Hutch come back, Sarr get fit etc and we'll start winning again. Remember we have no right to be in the top half of the table. Keep it real.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by CountryRoyal » 18 Oct 2022 23:55

Millsy I've since calmed down and can see it for what it was - a shit performance where 3-2 flattered us, but we forget we had to play a right back as CB, two of the worst performing defenders in recent history at as the other CBs, a n00b kid at RB and for some reason a winger at LB.
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We didn’t.

We could have played the right back at right back, our CBs (who I think you’re being incredibly harsh about) at CB, and either of our 2 left backs, at left back.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by Royal_jimmy » 19 Oct 2022 07:48

Jackson Corner I really thought he had turned the corner at the start of the season. But the last few games Tom Holmes does not look good enough to play at this level.


I have been critical of Holmes but he's had a good season. I actually believe that McIntyre alongside Holmes is a bad pairing and lacks experience.

Anyone got any stats on how goals conceded when both have started? We look far tighter at the back when only one of the pair plays.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Swansea City (a)

by Hound » 19 Oct 2022 08:01

Thought yesterday was very much like last season

I do have some sympathy with Ince’s comments as Swansea never really looked like breaking us down as such - Lumley made one very good save, but don’t think he did a lot else - and yet we conceded 3 (from 5 shots)

It’s that frustration that some parts of the defensive game were pretty good but then we still end up making stupid mistakes or slack play.

We’re just not good enough at the moment to try to hold on. We needed to keep going at Swansea and get a 3rd or 4th, not just sit back and wait for the inevitable error

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