Platypuss A very "Reading" signing, tbh. Nowt wrong with that, but I feel this is a prelude to one of Lita/Doyle leaving in this window.
i cant help thinking this too
by brendywendy » 24 Jul 2008 09:42
Platypuss A very "Reading" signing, tbh. Nowt wrong with that, but I feel this is a prelude to one of Lita/Doyle leaving in this window.
by Stranded » 24 Jul 2008 09:45
cmonurz It's this continued belief that our squad 'only needs tweaking' that I can't get my head around.
Compare our 106 point side to what we have now.
No Sidwell or Kitson, Marek and Bikey in. And that's it in terms of our 'strongest line-up' (perhaps you could swap Rosenior for Murts, but the latter remains first choice I think), in over two years. Arguably, the side is worse off than when we were last here, which to my mind doesn't represent adequate investment. Against that, the division is arguably stronger. At least, this early in pre-season, there could be 10 or so clubs who might win it.
It also gives players that failed us last season another chance, after they received two last season. If they fail again, then what? 'If we can't bring anyone in I have confidence in the players at my disposal'?
I am jealous of Derby fans because they have been relegated, like us, and are seeing their club invest in proven, quality players, using money that they gained from their time in the Premier League. Like us, they are probably paying higher ticket prices than when they were last in the Championship, but for this they have seen significant investment in the side.
WR has always, and will always, tear apart the transfers of other clubs, and, like brendy, strongly defend the actions of RFC (although I note the Coppell thread the other day). But a £1.75m striker and a Polish international midfielder are, imho, far beyond what Hammond and co even set out to find this summer, and it's that that concerns me.
by Alan Partridge » 24 Jul 2008 09:49
by Gordons Cumming » 24 Jul 2008 09:55
Strandedcmonurz It's this continued belief that our squad 'only needs tweaking' that I can't get my head around.
Compare our 106 point side to what we have now.
No Sidwell or Kitson, Marek and Bikey in. And that's it in terms of our 'strongest line-up' (perhaps you could swap Rosenior for Murts, but the latter remains first choice I think), in over two years. Arguably, the side is worse off than when we were last here, which to my mind doesn't represent adequate investment. Against that, the division is arguably stronger. At least, this early in pre-season, there could be 10 or so clubs who might win it.
It also gives players that failed us last season another chance, after they received two last season. If they fail again, then what? 'If we can't bring anyone in I have confidence in the players at my disposal'?
I am jealous of Derby fans because they have been relegated, like us, and are seeing their club invest in proven, quality players, using money that they gained from their time in the Premier League. Like us, they are probably paying higher ticket prices than when they were last in the Championship, but for this they have seen significant investment in the side.
WR has always, and will always, tear apart the transfers of other clubs, and, like brendy, strongly defend the actions of RFC (although I note the Coppell thread the other day). But a £1.75m striker and a Polish international midfielder are, imho, far beyond what Hammond and co even set out to find this summer, and it's that that concerns me.
If our squad had performed such as Derby's last season we'd be doing something very similar. Our situation is not comparable to their's beyond us both being relegated.
I say tweaked because the spine of our squad as it stands is strong for this level. We do need a RW and a LB and possibly one or two more depending on who goes but answers to one or two may already be here and what people seem to forget this year we can use the loan market at almost any time (and Coppell stated earlier in the summer that he would this season).
by gazmandu » 24 Jul 2008 09:57
Blue and White Toucan No - But what the hell I am feeling reckless today !!!!
by Geekins » 24 Jul 2008 10:12
by Royalshow » 24 Jul 2008 10:12
by The Surgeon of Crowthorne » 24 Jul 2008 10:22
paultheroyalThe Surgeon of Crowthorne It's a wind-up - pualtheroyal's claim that is. ptr has done this several times in the past.
Apology?
Will let you know next time i get a phone call from "someone" when activity is taking place.
by Stranded » 24 Jul 2008 10:31
brendywendyPlatypuss A very "Reading" signing, tbh. Nowt wrong with that, but I feel this is a prelude to one of Lita/Doyle leaving in this window.
i cant help thinking this too
by Wycombe Royal » 24 Jul 2008 10:33
Alan Partridge Fans views differ on everything. A lot of Dundee utd fans are delighted with the fee they've got for someone who has had 1 good season goalscoring wise in his career. There will be a good portion of Blades fans disappointed that Hulse has gone and they've spent more money on Darius Henderson.
Hulse maybe needed a fresh start where he's the main man again, at Sheffield Beattie is their number 1 and I can't imagine them working well as a partnership.
by TBM » 24 Jul 2008 10:33
Stranded Doyle in the EP today was also very clear that he wants to stay and help us get back up.
by Mr Angry » 24 Jul 2008 10:35
by Royal Lady » 24 Jul 2008 10:41
by Wycombe Royal » 24 Jul 2008 10:41
cmonurz WR has always, and will always, tear apart the transfers of other clubs
by Alan Partridge » 24 Jul 2008 10:45
Wycombe RoyalAlan Partridge Fans views differ on everything. A lot of Dundee utd fans are delighted with the fee they've got for someone who has had 1 good season goalscoring wise in his career. There will be a good portion of Blades fans disappointed that Hulse has gone and they've spent more money on Darius Henderson.
Hulse maybe needed a fresh start where he's the main man again, at Sheffield Beattie is their number 1 and I can't imagine them working well as a partnership.
I haven't seen any comments from Dundee United fans where they are delighted with the fee. Most seem to want over £1m and those that are relatively happy say they are purely because he only has a year left on his contract and could sign a pre-contract with us from January meaning they get nothing.
I haven't seen any that are happy with the fee beacause of his football abilities but maybe I have looked in different places to you.
by Hoop Blah » 24 Jul 2008 10:51
by Bill Oddie's Beard » 24 Jul 2008 10:52
Alan Partridge rest of his game is fairly average and lost count of how many times last season he lost control of the ball via his first touch...
It's a shame to lose Hunt and his 'nuisance factor' ...
he works his socks off and scored a good number last season, but his first touch and link up play are awful...
by londinium » 24 Jul 2008 11:00
cmonurz It's this continued belief that our squad 'only needs tweaking' that I can't get my head around.
Compare our 106 point side to what we have now.
No Sidwell or Kitson, Marek and Bikey in. And that's it in terms of our 'strongest line-up' (perhaps you could swap Rosenior for Murts, but the latter remains first choice I think), in over two years. Arguably, the side is worse off than when we were last here, which to my mind doesn't represent adequate investment. Against that, the division is arguably stronger. At least, this early in pre-season, there could be 10 or so clubs who might win it.
It also gives players that failed us last season another chance, after they received two last season. If they fail again, then what? 'If we can't bring anyone in I have confidence in the players at my disposal'?
I am jealous of Derby fans because they have been relegated, like us, and are seeing their club invest in proven, quality players, using money that they gained from their time in the Premier League. Like us, they are probably paying higher ticket prices than when they were last in the Championship, but for this they have seen significant investment in the side.
WR has always, and will always, tear apart the transfers of other clubs, and, like brendy, strongly defend the actions of RFC (although I note the Coppell thread the other day). But a £1.75m striker and a Polish international midfielder are, imho, far beyond what Hammond and co even set out to find this summer, and it's that that concerns me.
by Row Z Royal » 24 Jul 2008 11:12
by Bill Oddie's Beard » 24 Jul 2008 11:13
londiniumcmonurz It's this continued belief that our squad 'only needs tweaking' that I can't get my head around.
Compare our 106 point side to what we have now.
No Sidwell or Kitson, Marek and Bikey in. And that's it in terms of our 'strongest line-up' (perhaps you could swap Rosenior for Murts, but the latter remains first choice I think), in over two years. Arguably, the side is worse off than when we were last here, which to my mind doesn't represent adequate investment. Against that, the division is arguably stronger. At least, this early in pre-season, there could be 10 or so clubs who might win it.
It also gives players that failed us last season another chance, after they received two last season. If they fail again, then what? 'If we can't bring anyone in I have confidence in the players at my disposal'?
I am jealous of Derby fans because they have been relegated, like us, and are seeing their club invest in proven, quality players, using money that they gained from their time in the Premier League. Like us, they are probably paying higher ticket prices than when they were last in the Championship, but for this they have seen significant investment in the side.
WR has always, and will always, tear apart the transfers of other clubs, and, like brendy, strongly defend the actions of RFC (although I note the Coppell thread the other day). But a £1.75m striker and a Polish international midfielder are, imho, far beyond what Hammond and co even set out to find this summer, and it's that that concerns me.
Comparing our current side to the 106 points side, yes I too beleive we are weaker, but we did romp the league with record points so a slightly weaker team than that one would still be very good at Championship level.
As for it being stronger, if last season is anything to go by, it will be the weakest championship league in years, I thought last years standard of footie was piss poor summed up by the fact that a pretty mediocre West Brom side can go up as Champions and the other two promoted clubs hardly set the world alight with their dynamic footbal unlike our champ winnning side.
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