CONFIMRED - Glenn Murray on loan

[Maguire]

They're just grouchy because they're tired.

Oh, they're tired.

[Royal Biscuitman]

but seriously its taken all day to complete 1 x loan signing in, what pile of steaming dog poo!!!!

Maybe he wasn't first choice and Hammond spent all day on deals for Falcao and Wellbeck which fell through

[Ian Royal]

Good alternative to Pog. We've been desperate for competition for him, especially since he got injured and now we've got it.

Be surprised if Murray and Pog start games together.

[Avon Royal]

I'm pretty sure that when I was driving round Australia I heard a breakfast show with Murray and the Pog.

[kwik-silva]

Good alternative to Pog. We've been desperate for competition for him, especially since he got injured and now we've got it.

Be surprised if Murray and Pog start games together.

Exactly how I see it too, Cox needs to be playing off one of these guys rather than by himself.

[windermere_royal]

I just noticed Palace have taken Doyle on loan till January too, wonder if there is a connection?

[Cape Town Royal]

Nice thing about this signing is it might sharpen up Pog as well because for a long time he has been the only target option of any note we have, so whether he wants to stay or get a move away, he will want to be playing.

Good to have some competition up top for the first time in a while.

Lets hope we can give them some service be because for a team that 2 years ago had so many wingers we were happy to sell Antonio we look very thin in that area now, especially if Obita has to keep filling the left back void.

As for Glen Murray - pleased he's here and looking forward to see how well he does for us..

[paultheroyal]

I just noticed Palace have taken Doyle on loan till January too, wonder if there is a connection?

What connection are you looking for!

[Extended-Phenotype]

It's a time purchase. If everyone likes the deal in January then it'll be permanent. Try before you buy. I like it.

Bullshit. Its thrifty and if he's any good we'll lose him in the January window.

Same old cheap as shit Reading, millions in, players gone, nothing of note spent.

[winchester_royal]

It's a time purchase. If everyone likes the deal in January then it'll be permanent. Try before you buy. I like it.

Bullshit. Its thrifty and if he's any good we'll lose him in the January window.

Same old cheap as shit Reading, millions in, players gone, nothing of note spent.

[kwik-silva]

It's a time purchase. If everyone likes the deal in January then it'll be permanent. Try before you buy. I like it.

Bullshit. Its thrifty and if he's any good we'll lose him in the January window.

Same old cheap as shit Reading, millions in, players gone, nothing of note spent.

As said before, there's no point throwing money at players when its not necessary. Look at Drenthe, loaned out to Sheffield Wednesday because we can't get rid of him. If there's a clause in the loan that gives us first option to buy then the only way we really lose the deal is if we can't tie up the contract - and hypothetically that shouldn't be too difficult. Still, the money in can go toward other things - again as said previously - we need to tie up contracts for our existing players, and if we borrowed against parachute payments last year then this year we had to cut our wages. It's not just as simple as get & spend.

[winchester_royal]

And of course there are the academy/training ground costs to consider.

It does seem we were willing to spend in the last few days. The deal for Murray was originally permanent, but for whatever reason it was deemed easier to set it up as a loan with a view to making it permanent. Probably to allow him to prove fitness and form before we give him a >1yr deal.

We were also trying to bring in two other players that apparently went to a prem club and a top european club. Now obviously some will claim that's just PR spin from the club, but if it's genuine (and I believe it to be so) then that gives us an idea of the calibre of player we were chasing.

By all accounts the Thais were quite involved yesterday as well which contradicts any suggestion that the t/o is falling through.

Finally, as I said yesterday I don't believe there was any need to bring in a bunch of players. Yes we're a little light atm, but that will quickly change as players return which would then cause major issues with an inflated squad and a high wage bill. If anything a couple of short term loan signings would help, but those can be done next week. To put that point into context we could name two very strong Championship teams with a fully fit squad:

Fed/Andersen

Gunter/Kelly
Pearce/Ferdinand
Hector/Cooper
Obita/Cummings

Guthrie/Norwood
Karacan/Williams

McCleary/Mackie
Cox/HRK
Blackman/Taylor

Pog/Murray

And then you have the younger players like Edwards and Kuhl who have done well in the last few games who aren't even going to get a look in now.

We've had a good window. Made the club more financially secure while adding experience and quality.

[kwik-silva]

Top post, that. I wouldn't be averse to bringing in a couple of short term loans, but there's no need for permanent signings for temporary injuries.

[Avon Royal]

Although we seem to permanently have at least one player at every position who is temporarily injured.

[winchester_royal]

Although we seem to permanently have at least one player at every position who is temporarily injured.

Unfortunately they still get paid when they're injured.

[holsgrove breaks a leg]

Whilst i think getting Murray permanently would have been good, i guess a loan spell wasn't such a bad idea in order to keep a check on fitness as the games progressed. Really don't know why we didn't get him on a season long loan though as we probably would be in a better position to buy come the end of the season as the January window is notoriously more cut throat. Doyle going on loan until Jan only might have scuppered that with Palace wanting some kind of insurance, though it doesn't really put Doyle in the greatest of lights now if Palace only wanted him till Jan! The one transfer i think we definately should have tied up permanently was Mackie - full of experience,craft and puts a shift in and is what we need for next few years with the younger players. I still think a championship/league 1 type lb cover would have been beneficial as long term i don't think cummings/kelly really are the answer anymore and Adkins has never appeared to rate Kelly in the past and it could move Obita on the wings which may benefit our forward play. Hopefully we may be able to solve that in the loan window but i have a feeling we are what we are till Jan.

It would have been interesting to have seen how the transfer window played out if the majority of the squad was fit, would we have kept McCleary/Guthrie and would we perhaps let players like Kelly/Cummings/Blackman/HRK go and replaced them in kind. Its almost as thought the fact the majority of players being injured for the 'mid term' may have forced Adkins into not being as active as it would appear as these players are returning in weeks/months and also would not have gone being injured.

[Royalwaster]

Positives from watching his goal on youtube are that a) he can head the ball b) he knows where the goal is and c) he can score penalties ....

[loyalroyal4life]

Whilst i think getting Murray permanently would have been good, i guess a loan spell wasn't such a bad idea in order to keep a check on fitness as the games progressed. Really don't know why we didn't get him on a season long loan though as we probably would be in a better position to buy come the end of the season as the January window is notoriously more cut throat. Doyle going on loan until Jan only might have scuppered that with Palace wanting some kind of insurance, though it doesn't really put Doyle in the greatest of lights now if Palace only wanted him till Jan! The one transfer i think we definately should have tied up permanently was Mackie - full of experience,craft and puts a shift in and is what we need for next few years with the younger players. I still think a championship/league 1 type lb cover would have been beneficial as long term i don't think cummings/kelly really are the answer anymore and Adkins has never appeared to rate Kelly in the past and it could move Obita on the wings which may benefit our forward play. Hopefully we may be able to solve that in the loan window but i have a feeling we are what we are till Jan.

It would have been interesting to have seen how the transfer window played out if the majority of the squad was fit, would we have kept McCleary/Guthrie and would we perhaps let players like Kelly/Cummings/Blackman/HRK go and replaced them in kind. Its almost as thought the fact the majority of players being injured for the 'mid term' may have forced Adkins into not being as active as it would appear as these players are returning in weeks/months and also would not have gone being injured.

Mackie is here until end of season, no need to tie him up perm. See how he does over course of the season

Murray is view to permanent, barring injury sure he will sign on as believe fee is agreed in principal as part of the loan deal

[Hoop Blah]

Bringing a player in on loan until January is a common tactic when time is running out on deadline day as it gets the player in through the door with less commitment and then leaves time for the deal to be converted to a permanent deal whilst he's on loan.

I think this is a pretty good move. He's got a good record of consistently scoring and is a good alternative to Pogrebnyak to lead the line. I like his movement and he seems to be able to read the drop of ball in the box better which is a true goalscorers skill.

[winchester_royal]

@charles_watts
Reading wanted a loan deal for Murray because of his recent injury. An agreement is in place to buy at a set price in Jan #readingfc

More good work from the much maligned Nicky H.