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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Nameless » 18 Apr 2022 21:40

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Snowflake Royal Nameless, I sometimes wonder if you'd defend the club if a representative came round your house and shit in your sink.


When you delight in twisting everything into a negative, someone has to add a dash of reality.
I enjoy my football and following the club, have you ever thought of a different way to feed your masochistic tendencies
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I'm Mr Positivity when things are run well. You're defending the guy who keeps appointing shit managers, destroying the financial stability of the club, getting us points deductions, the shit managers he keeps hiring.

And I'm optimistic Yongge will oxf*rd off and we can get back to that some day in the not too distant future.


Ironically I’m not ‘defending’ anything. I’m simply pointing out that if there was a managerial vacancy we’d have lots of good people interested. You countered this with a load of nonsense.
You’ve never been anything other than negative, it’s tedious and predictable. I really can’t understand why you just don’t go and find another ‘interest’.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by NathStPaul » 18 Apr 2022 21:42

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Yeah but still they are billionaire business people, you don't get to that level of wealth by being incompetent in basic negotiations of your assets.

That's quite a naive view. Especially when the guy made his money in dodgy dealings in China.


And your evidence of this is?

He is/has been investigated by the Chinese government for money laundering and other financial crimes. He is clearly up to stuff, nothing has stuck yet.

Two football clubs he has owned just disappeared. Perfectly normal yeah?

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by JR » 19 Apr 2022 00:59

NathStPaul Ince is starting to let slip little bits and pieces, clearly he knows he's here next season. Not convinced he's the right man by any means but hard to argue he's made us much fitter and determined.


Actually loved his post match interview. Didn’t think he had it in him, but he’s absolutely saying all the right things.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Jackson Corner » 19 Apr 2022 01:27

Whilst I agree if we stay up. Then Ince deserves a crack next season. The only problem is we have been here before. Bought in managers at the end of the season kept us up the next year they are gone be Xmas.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by From Despair To Where? » 19 Apr 2022 08:09

On the other hand the one thing Ince has done that Clement and Gomes failed to do is improve the team.

We fell over the line playing dreadfully dull football under Clement and, athough Gomes instilled a bit of spirit, we still played some kamikaze football.


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Stranded » 19 Apr 2022 08:47

From Despair To Where? On the other hand the one thing Ince has done that Clement and Gomes failed to do is improve the team.

We fell over the line playing dreadfully dull football under Clement and, athough Gomes instilled a bit of spirit, we still played some kamikaze football.


Very much this - we finally look like a team and one who will fight for each other. We have at least one OOC player telling local press (Laurent according to Dellor) that if Ince stays, he will have to think long and hard about leaving as he is enjoying his football more than ever.

It could (and more likely and not) will fall flat on it's arse at some point, possibly soon - but it actually feels like there is proper positive movement for the first time in ages - changing again now (if he wants it) would just be changing for the sake of change in my opinion.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Mr Angry » 19 Apr 2022 08:54

I think it would be hard to argue that Paul Ince has had anything other than a positive influence on the Team and indeed, on the fans.

Bearing in mind that the expectations bar was set very low by Pauno, which meant losing games but showing just a bit of fight would have been an improvement, Ince has done far more than that and not just in results.

Scoring goals deep in injury time is an indication of a team that has good morale, and is playing for their Manager whose ideas and philosophy they buy into and frankly the Club would be mad if the position isn't offered to him at the end of the season.

Obviously, if he doesn't want the job, thats a different matter, but IMHO he should definitely be offered it.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Royalwaster » 19 Apr 2022 09:01

Mr Angry I think it would be hard to argue that Paul Ince has had anything other than a positive influence on the Team and indeed, on the fans.

Bearing in mind that the expectations bar was set very low by Pauno, which meant losing games but showing just a bit of fight would have been an improvement, Ince has done far more than that and not just in results.

Scoring goals deep in injury time is an indication of a team that has good morale, and is playing for their Manager whose ideas and philosophy they buy into and frankly the Club would be mad if the position isn't offered to him at the end of the season.

Obviously, if he doesn't want the job, thats a different matter, but IMHO he should definitely be offered it.

+1 can't argue with that

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Royal Rother » 19 Apr 2022 09:01

Mr Angry I think it would be hard to argue that Paul Ince has had anything other than a positive influence on the Team and indeed, on the fans.

Bearing in mind that the expectations bar was set very low by Pauno, which meant losing games but showing just a bit of fight would have been an improvement, Ince has done far more than that and not just in results.

Scoring goals deep in injury time is an indication of a team that has good morale, and is playing for their Manager whose ideas and philosophy they buy into and frankly the Club would be mad if the position isn't offered to him at the end of the season.

Obviously, if he doesn't want the job, thats a different matter, but IMHO he should definitely be offered it.


Totally.


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 19 Apr 2022 09:03

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Snowflake Royal That's quite a naive view. Especially when the guy made his money in dodgy dealings in China.


And your evidence of this is?

He is/has been investigated by the Chinese government for money laundering and other financial crimes. He is clearly up to stuff, nothing has stuck yet.

Two football clubs he has owned just disappeared. Perfectly normal yeah?


Well which is it? Is or has been as that basically gives you the answer.

And you're saying that, because he has lost two football clubs, that is proof of dodgy dealings for Dai to make his money? No, that's proof of misuse of funds.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by South Coast Royal » 19 Apr 2022 10:37

Have no issue with Ince being our next manager.

I have however heard a whisper that we are looking to appoint a manager from a Div 1 side at the mid to lower end of the table although I would have preferred Karl Robinson from Oxford who now look as though they are going to miss out on promotion whereas his previous club , MK Dons, who also play attractive football still have a chance.

Watch this space.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Silver Fox » 19 Apr 2022 10:40

I wouldn't be totally against Ince as long as someone tells him the people sat next to him on the bench are allowed to come on. Although no Tom next year might make those decisions easier for him

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Weymouth Royal » 19 Apr 2022 10:57

Ince deserves the job. He's out some fight into this team that we haven't seen for years, and there's a connection again between fans and players that's been missing for a long long time.


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by TiagoIlori » 19 Apr 2022 11:23

It’s a tricky one for me. So many managers that do secure survival seem to be the first ones to go the next season. Ince is not an experienced manager and we have a hell of a rebuilding job to do this summer- Joao coming back has been a just as big factor in our revival and I don’t think we should under estimate his influence.

But you look counter productively, he’s earned that position more than most managers have. He’s improved us (still think we are shaky defensively but I also think that will take some time to resolve) and the players certainly seem to like him. His CV is hardly much worse than the other has we viewed at the time “shitters” we’ve brought in over the last six years- Stam, Clement, Gomes, Bowen, Pauno. I have absolutely no faith that the alternative manager would not be someone inspiring.

I think it’s a flip of the coin and is a tough call to make, but one thing is for certain and that is if Paul Ince is not chosen he won’t be out of a job for long.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by From Despair To Where? » 19 Apr 2022 11:24

South Coast Royal Have no issue with Ince being our next manager.

I have however heard a whisper that we are looking to appoint a manager from a Div 1 side at the mid to lower end of the table although I would have preferred Karl Robinson from Oxford who now look as though they are going to miss out on promotion whereas his previous club , MK Dons, who also play attractive football still have a chance.

Watch this space.


Michael Duff? Only name that leaps out given the criteria.

To be honest, I'd favour Ince because he's here, the players have responded to him and we're crying out for some continuity

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Franchise FC » 19 Apr 2022 12:03

TiagoIlori It’s a tricky one for me. So many managers that do secure survival seem to be the first ones to go the next season. Ince is not an experienced manager and we have a hell of a rebuilding job to do this summer- Joao coming back has been a just as big factor in our revival and I don’t think we should under estimate his influence.

But you look counter productively, he’s earned that position more than most managers have. He’s improved us (still think we are shaky defensively but I also think that will take some time to resolve) and the players certainly seem to like him. His CV is hardly much worse than the other has we viewed at the time “shitters” we’ve brought in over the last six years- Stam, Clement, Gomes, Bowen, Pauno. I have absolutely no faith that the alternative manager would not be someone inspiring.

I think it’s a flip of the coin and is a tough call to make, but one thing is for certain and that is if Paul Ince is not chosen he won’t be out of a job for long.

Sorry, Ince is not an experienced manager ?
Is that for real ?
He’s got considerably more managerial experience, particularly in England, than at least 4 of our last 6, albeit from a few years ago

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Snowflake Royal » 19 Apr 2022 12:34

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Yeah but still they are billionaire business people, you don't get to that level of wealth by being incompetent in basic negotiations of your assets.

That's quite a naive view. Especially when the guy made his money in dodgy dealings in China.


And your evidence of this is?

The corruption rampant in China where you don't get to be a billionaire honestly by buying fallout shelters on the cheap and converting them to shopping malls that aren’t needed.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 19 Apr 2022 12:41

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Snowflake Royal That's quite a naive view. Especially when the guy made his money in dodgy dealings in China.


And your evidence of this is?

The corruption rampant in China where you don't get to be a billionaire honestly by buying fallout shelters on the cheap and converting them to shopping malls that aren’t needed.


It doesn't really answer my original point about being incompetent though, even if that was true anyway, which there still isn't evidence of, you've just given me a generic statement and have now assumed that applies to Dai Yongge.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by NathStPaul » 19 Apr 2022 12:47

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And your evidence of this is?

The corruption rampant in China where you don't get to be a billionaire honestly by buying fallout shelters on the cheap and converting them to shopping malls that aren’t needed.


It doesn't really answer my original point about being incompetent though, even if that was true anyway, which there still isn't evidence of, you've just given me a generic statement and have now assumed that applies to Dai Yongge.

You've been told that he is and has been for some time under investigation by the Chinese government. I am sure you're a nice guy IRL but you are getting to the point of tiresome on here, you can't accept anyone correcting you and it is really boring now.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Stranded » 19 Apr 2022 13:04

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South Coast Royal Have no issue with Ince being our next manager.

I have however heard a whisper that we are looking to appoint a manager from a Div 1 side at the mid to lower end of the table although I would have preferred Karl Robinson from Oxford who now look as though they are going to miss out on promotion whereas his previous club , MK Dons, who also play attractive football still have a chance.

Watch this space.


Michael Duff? Only name that leaps out given the criteria.

To be honest, I'd favour Ince because he's here, the players have responded to him and we're crying out for some continuity


I will be amazed if we try to appoint a manager from elsewhere - I just don't see us "wasting money" on compensation unless the guy we want is close to the end of his deal so would be cheap.

It could well be Hasselbaink that we are looking at if true.

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