Where has £3.95 million gone?

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by andrew1957 » 12 Jan 2011 22:16

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PEARCEY What's Cox's scoring record in the Championship?


17 + 11 appearances 9 goals

This is a fairly good strike rate

PL 2 + 9 appearances no goals


Fairly good but not much better than Church.


I don't disagree except that he did score a lot of goals in League 1 whereas Church never set the world on fire on loans to League 1 and 2. I hope Church stays but would like to see Cox here until the end of the season to boost our options but Baggie fans don't think the club will let him go anyway (See BBC 606) so probably irrelevant.

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by winchester_royal » 12 Jan 2011 23:16

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andrew1957 1/ A am very pleased we have signed Leigertwood until the end of the season.

2/ The club have clearly done the right thing with W-P. It would be ridiculous to waste money if the player turns out to be a liability.

3/ I have no problem with the Brett Williams deal - as it should be a very low cost gamble.

4/ BUT we still need a fourth experienced striker. Would still like Austin but an end of season loan for Simon Cox would potentially also be good business.

When did Austin become an experienced striker???


1.5 seasons with Swindon >>>>>>>>>> playing for Eastleigh

Did I ever say Brett Williams WAS an experienced striker??

Fortunately for us, these aren't the only two strikers around.....

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Wimb » 22 Jan 2011 06:57

Bit of credit now due to SJM, Hammond and especially Brian Ifeel.

Despite the mong brigade whinging about a lack of investment we've once again (as predicted by many) gone out and made some sensible acquisitions and spent money on handing out new contracts/extensions etc.

So far in this transfer window we've already extended Leigertwood's loan, given Fed a new deal, signed Williams, Manset and Morrison (and all but signing BWP)

On top of that we haven't 'cashed in' on Long/Kebe or any of our other good players and the firm message out of the club and individual players is that we won't and don't have any need to sell.

The club's being run the right way and with over a week to go it's looking like being a very positive transfer window for the club.

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Lukewarm Lager » 22 Jan 2011 07:00

Stop talking sense Wimbles!

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Wimb » 22 Jan 2011 07:01

Lukewarm Lager Stop talking sense Wimbles!


:D valid, keep sense away from HNA


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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Lukewarm Lager » 22 Jan 2011 07:06

Hence, why I post so rarely! :D

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Northern Git » 22 Jan 2011 09:18

Yep, strangely happy with the clubs actions in the transfer window so far. If we are not going to invest in proven higher league players (with all the costs that involves) buying young developng players seems a reasonable course of action.

Not all will come good, but some almost certainly will.

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Spud Gun » 22 Jan 2011 09:26

For anyone spitting feathers over a perceived lack of spending, can I introduce you to the concept of managing expectations. Firstly, McDermott set an expectation that there wasn't a need to bring players in during this transfer window. The result of this is that everyone was pleasantly surprised with a double signing, not to mention 3 additions in a week.

Secondly, the club announced there is not much money to bring players in. Had it been advertised there was a transfer budget of £2m (for example), then we probably would have been quoted £750k for BWP and £500k for Morrison.

Reading will not pay multi-million transfer fees now the parachute payments have stopped. However, money will always be available for players ... but it has to be the right player with the right mentality, at the right price, at the right age, for the right wage and they must pass the medical. Reading should be plucking the best talent from the lower leagues and I am excited to see how these new signings will work out.

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by andrew1957 » 22 Jan 2011 10:42

As I started this thread I will make a comment.

To be fair to the club I am happy with the transfer window so far. We were crying out for a 6 foot plus striker and Austin seemed to fit the - bill BUT Manset "might" be just be as good (or better) so I am happy with that signing. The other two signings are longer term low cost gambles and I am all for those.

So PROVIDED we don't sell anyone I will really look forward to the rest of the season as I think we have a great chance of promotion if we keep the current squad together and have Manset as an addition. If on the other hand we sell one of say McAnuff, Kebe or Long I will be very cheesed off. I also think it would be a mistake to lose the likes of Church - although a short term 30 day loan with a guarantee by the club he goes to that he will play during the month - might do him some good.


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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 22 Jan 2011 11:20

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Secondly, the club announced there is not much money to bring players in. Had it been advertised there was a transfer budget of £2m (for example), then we probably would have been quoted £750k for BWP and £500k for Morrison.

Reading will not pay multi-million transfer fees now the parachute payments have stopped. However, money will always be available for players .


Can't we put this to bed please, we have money to spend, other clubs know we have taken a lot in, other clubs also know that we will pay what we value a player at not what they think, just because we take in £6m does not make a run of the mill player worth more to us, so the selling clubs can pizz off.

Paying a lot for players can weaken what we have, same with overpaying wages, hopefully we are not doing that either, as for Feds, I would expect his contract is at a similar salary, but with a good fee to him if he leaves to a higher club, win win for RFC and the player, also encourages him to play to a good standard, as he could be rewarded handsomely in a move.

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Royal Monk » 22 Jan 2011 11:29

It doesnt answer the question though ... where has the 3.95 million gone :wink:

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 22 Jan 2011 11:33

Royal Monk It doesnt answer the question though ... where has the 3.95 million gone :wink:


I answered it ages ago, any surplus cash is still with RFC, simples.

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by andrew1957 » 24 Jan 2011 11:34

I have felt somewhat reassured that the club have at least done something to fill the need for a large target man striker BUT I have to say that having watched Miller and Routledge - both classy players signed by QPR from PL clubs - terrorise Coventry yesterday, it does make me think that they are showing ambition to bring in players to make a difference this season which we are not showing.

I now have little doubt that QPR will go on to win the division - whereas the best we can probably hope for is to scrape a play off place. Just a thought.


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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Svlad Cjelli » 24 Jan 2011 11:37

But much of QPR's success has been down to the goals of Mackie - signed cheaply from a lower league club.

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Wycombe Royal » 24 Jan 2011 11:45

Svlad Cjelli But much of QPR's success has been down to the goals of Mackie - signed cheaply from a lower league club.

More to do with Taraabt than Mackie in my opinion......

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Svlad Cjelli » 24 Jan 2011 11:49

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Svlad Cjelli But much of QPR's success has been down to the goals of Mackie - signed cheaply from a lower league club.

More to do with Taraabt than Mackie in my opinion......


Agreed, but Andrew was using QPR's strikers as a stick to beat RFC with ....

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by andrew1957 » 24 Jan 2011 12:05

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Svlad Cjelli But much of QPR's success has been down to the goals of Mackie - signed cheaply from a lower league club.

More to do with Taraabt than Mackie in my opinion......


Agreed, but Andrew was using QPR's strikers as a stick to beat RFC with ....


I hardly think that pointing out that QPR have signed two players that could make all the difference is beating anybody with a stick!

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by loyalroyal4life » 24 Jan 2011 12:19

andrew1957 I have felt somewhat reassured that the club have at least done something to fill the need for a large target man striker BUT I have to say that having watched Miller and Routledge - both classy players signed by QPR from PL clubs - terrorise Coventry yesterday, it does make me think that they are showing ambition to bring in players to make a difference this season which we are not showing.

I now have little doubt that QPR will go on to win the division - whereas the best we can probably hope for is to scrape a play off place. Just a thought.



Comes down to the following really

Chimbonda + Routledge + Miller >>> Morrison, Williams, Manset

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by Who Moved The Goalposts? » 24 Jan 2011 12:21

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andrew1957 I have felt somewhat reassured that the club have at least done something to fill the need for a large target man striker BUT I have to say that having watched Miller and Routledge - both classy players signed by QPR from PL clubs - terrorise Coventry yesterday, it does make me think that they are showing ambition to bring in players to make a difference this season which we are not showing.

I now have little doubt that QPR will go on to win the division - whereas the best we can probably hope for is to scrape a play off place. Just a thought.



Comes down to the following really

Chimbonda + Routledge + Miller >>> Morrison, Williams, Manset


Probably because:

QPR Owner's wallet>>>>>Reading Owner's wallet

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Re: Where has £3.95 million gone?

by brendywendy » 24 Jan 2011 12:25

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andrew1957 I have felt somewhat reassured that the club have at least done something to fill the need for a large target man striker BUT I have to say that having watched Miller and Routledge - both classy players signed by QPR from PL clubs - terrorise Coventry yesterday, it does make me think that they are showing ambition to bring in players to make a difference this season which we are not showing.

I now have little doubt that QPR will go on to win the division - whereas the best we can probably hope for is to scrape a play off place. Just a thought.



Comes down to the following really

Chimbonda + Routledge + Miller >>> Morrison, Williams, Manset



or players bought, on actual contracts>>>>>>>>>a load of mercenary loanees- depends what you want.

lets be clear- QPR owners have refused to give their manager any money to actually purchase any players, and only agreed to finance short term loans. and theyre the richest owners in the world.makes peoples whinges abouyt JM seem laughable.
thing is with these laonees, if they play really well its still 50-50 whether theyll actually stay at QPR rather than go to a better club.
and theyll keep QPRs own players out of the side, so that if they do leave, the QPR players wont be anywhere near up to speed.

plus - fair play theyre good players, but theyre still premiere league rejects at the minute. totallly unproven- or actual proven failures.
so its not really as black and white as stated.

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