CONFIRMED - Alex Pearce re-signs

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Re: Alex Pearce

by glass half full » 17 Jun 2013 22:10

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LightwaterRoyal +1 Ian.


Agreed - there are too many examples of players that, once they've signaled their willingness to leave, are "damaged goods" if they end-up staying.


The other side of the coin is that a player who agrees eventually to re-sign may find a new motivation and pull something out of the fire. There is no doubt that he is talented but is there motivation?

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Re: Alex Pearce

by akranes » 17 Jun 2013 22:39

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LightwaterRoyal +1 Ian.


Agreed - there are too many examples of players that, once they've signaled their willingness to leave, are "damaged goods" if they end-up staying.


The other side of the coin is that a player who agrees eventually to re-sign may find a new motivation and pull something out of the fire. There is no doubt that he is talented but is there motivation?


He's a good player, especially at hoofball. I'm sure Adkins for one doesn't want to play someone who screwed with the club, agent or not he hired them. Also, Morrison is good enough for the Championship so a year will improve him greatly.

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Re: Alex Pearce

by Royal With Cheese » 18 Jun 2013 00:36

Wow, in the Sky interview he comes over as slightly less sincere than Tony Blair.

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Re: Alex Pearce

by From Despair To Where? » 18 Jun 2013 08:06

As someone pointed out somewhere, it's funny how the only 2 players who've spoken in the press about their prospects of staying at or leaving Reading have the same agent.

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Re: Alex Pearce

by Hoop Blah » 18 Jun 2013 10:13

Royal With Cheese Wow, in the Sky interview he comes over as slightly less sincere than Tony Blair.


I've no real problem with Pearce holding out for what he thinks he's worth (he may have to accept that he isn't worth that, or not to us, and go elsewhere and/or lower his expectations) but that interview really didn't do him much good did it?

I still think Pearce is quite significantly better than Morrison so I'd be happy if he and Mariappa had the chance to continue their partnership, but Morrison is only going to get better by playing.

There does seem some evidence to suggest that Robson-Kanu's brother is cocking this up for his players.


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Re: Alex Pearce

by Haag Royal » 18 Jun 2013 10:21

Some agents have class others don't. In this case if it is true that AP and HRK have the same agent then he is trying very naively to make RFC jump when he wants them to.

Any agent that is seemingly happy to see AP sit on the bench for most of the season so he can pocket a fat check at the end of it deserves to be out of a job.

It would not bother me if both HRK and AP left and we are therefore not held to ransom by this a**e of an agent.

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Re: Alex Pearce

by Elm Park Pasty » 18 Jun 2013 10:46

Haag Royal Some agents have class others don't. In this case if it is true that AP and HRK have the same agent then he is trying very naively to make RFC jump when he wants them to.

Any agent that is seemingly happy to see AP sit on the bench for most of the season so he can pocket a fat check at the end of it deserves to be out of a job.

It would not bother me if both HRK and AP left and we are therefore not held to ransom by this a**e of an agent.


David Robson-Kanu does seem a bit of a plank, and it can't be coincidental that his two players seem to be making public statements. Not sure if he is anyone else's agent though.

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Re: Alex Pearce

by melonhead » 18 Jun 2013 11:03

Royal Ginger Well, thanks for that well thought out and well articulated post, i'm sure to give it a lot of thought.

Anyway, contract squabble or not, he's still a good player that would be an asset to the team. I don't doubt that he's not on a top wage, and perhaps this is a good indication of how disparity in fees can upset a team. Why should he be paid less than Guthrie, Pogrebnyak, Roberts etc?


is it cos they are more experienced and better players,who were signed on frees, so could absorb the money saved into wages, and who were payed more at previous clubs?

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Re: Alex Pearce

by rob the royal » 18 Jun 2013 11:20

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Royal Ginger Well, thanks for that well thought out and well articulated post, i'm sure to give it a lot of thought.

Anyway, contract squabble or not, he's still a good player that would be an asset to the team. I don't doubt that he's not on a top wage, and perhaps this is a good indication of how disparity in fees can upset a team. Why should he be paid less than Guthrie, Pogrebnyak, Roberts etc?


is it cos they are more experienced and better players,who were signed on frees, so could absorb the money saved into wages, and who were payed more at previous clubs?


Ask most people who Jason Roberts or Pog are and they know.

Most people stare blankly when I say we're losing a centre-back called Alex Pearce and ask doesn't he play for Leeds?


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Re: Alex Pearce

by Shaka's Giant Hands » 18 Jun 2013 12:41

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Haag Royal Some agents have class others don't. In this case if it is true that AP and HRK have the same agent then he is trying very naively to make RFC jump when he wants them to.

Any agent that is seemingly happy to see AP sit on the bench for most of the season so he can pocket a fat check at the end of it deserves to be out of a job.

It would not bother me if both HRK and AP left and we are therefore not held to ransom by this a**e of an agent.


David Robson-Kanu does seem a bit of a plank, and it can't be coincidental that his two players seem to be making public statements. Not sure if he is anyone else's agent though.


Doesn't Pearces misses work at Sky Sports news?

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Re: Alex Pearce

by Elm Park Pasty » 18 Jun 2013 13:06

Shaka's Giant Hands Doesn't Pearces misses work at Sky Sports news?


Don't know about that but it would explain how he gets an interview (publicity??) on Sky Sports News about his contract issue.

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Re: Alex Pearce

by royalsroyalsroyals92 » 18 Jun 2013 14:10

Don't understand what he said wrong - i got the overwhelming sense that he wants to stay at Reading - maybe could pay him the fee required to sack his total c*nt of an agent!

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Re: Alex Pearce

by Divvy » 18 Jun 2013 14:21

royalsroyalsroyals92 Don't understand what he said wrong - i got the overwhelming sense that he wants to stay at Reading - maybe could pay him the fee required to sack his total c*nt of an agent!


He wants to be paid the same as a top earner here (£35k - less so now we're relegated), but he isn't one of our best players. Certainly Mariappa is ahead of him and by some stretch. He was apparently offered £25k, which is stunning wage at this level. If that isn't good enough then he can politely do one! He doesn't deserve more than that!


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Re: Alex Pearce

by Elm Park Pasty » 18 Jun 2013 14:30

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royalsroyalsroyals92 Don't understand what he said wrong - i got the overwhelming sense that he wants to stay at Reading - maybe could pay him the fee required to sack his total c*nt of an agent!


He wants to be paid the same as a top earner here (£35k - less so now we're relegated), but he isn't one of our best players. Certainly Mariappa is ahead of him and by some stretch. He was apparently offered £25k, which is stunning wage at this level. If that isn't good enough then he can politely do one! He doesn't deserve more than that!


We are not longer in the PL so he should not get PL wages. If we go back up then he should be offered more. Not really sure I want him at all though.

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Re: Alex Pearce

by royalsroyalsroyals92 » 18 Jun 2013 14:41

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royalsroyalsroyals92 Don't understand what he said wrong - i got the overwhelming sense that he wants to stay at Reading - maybe could pay him the fee required to sack his total c*nt of an agent!


He wants to be paid the same as a top earner here (£35k - less so now we're relegated), but he isn't one of our best players. Certainly Mariappa is ahead of him and by some stretch. He was apparently offered £25k, which is stunning wage at this level. If that isn't good enough then he can politely do one! He doesn't deserve more than that!


He specifically said he doesnt want to be the top earner, he just wants parity with some of the higher earners, probably players like Mariappa

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Re: Alex Pearce

by akranes » 18 Jun 2013 14:50

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royalsroyalsroyals92 Don't understand what he said wrong - i got the overwhelming sense that he wants to stay at Reading - maybe could pay him the fee required to sack his total c*nt of an agent!


He wants to be paid the same as a top earner here (£35k - less so now we're relegated), but he isn't one of our best players. Certainly Mariappa is ahead of him and by some stretch. He was apparently offered £25k, which is stunning wage at this level. If that isn't good enough then he can politely do one! He doesn't deserve more than that!


He specifically said he doesnt want to be the top earner, he just wants parity with some of the higher earners, probably players like Mariappa


He's not that great though...

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Re: Alex Pearce

by Colin Cheeselog » 18 Jun 2013 15:03

He was our player of the year one year ago and our team hasn't really improved since then, so I would say that he most certainly is one of our better players and deserves to be remunerated accordingly.

If you were your company’s highest performing employee and a significant factor behind the company’s success, yet new employees were brought in and paid more, and the attempt to retain you was to offer a salary still lower than those new employees, you may feel miffed and consider whether you would be treated more equitably with a different employer.

It’s a fundamental feature of Adams Equity Theory.

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Re: Alex Pearce

by Haag Royal » 18 Jun 2013 15:04

You can just imagine the last conversation with his agent can't you.

"What's happening DRK?!"

"Pearcey, although I advised you rather well during the season when the fans previously quite rated you as an ex Player of the Season and we thought the club would capitulate to my rather ridiculous wage demands for you things haven't gone quite to plan. Because you have sat on the bench winding down your contract fans and the club are starting to question whether the club really needs you, WELL, I think you had better get up and tell everyone how much you now wish to stay as the queue of potential PL clubs wishing to take you on, apy you more than RFC and guarantee you a first team place seems to have dried up mate. Oh and BTW here's my bill so far"

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Re: Alex Pearce

by Scutterbucketz » 18 Jun 2013 15:04

I met Pearce in Lola Lo's (still not quite sure what i was doing in there) last November and had a chat with him. He said then that he was making a stand on behalf of all the academy boys as he felt that Nicky Hammond didn't treat them with the same amount of respect as players who are bought in and this was reflected in the contracts and wages offered to them. It seemed he was on a bit of a crusade.

As he is one of our best players I don't see why he shouldn't be offered parity With other players in the team.

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Re: Alex Pearce

by Hoop Blah » 18 Jun 2013 15:10

I'd agree his gripe is probably that he wants parity with Mariappa or perhaps Gorks now that he's established himself.

I can't blame him for that to be honest.

As for Mariappa being better than him I don't agree on that either. Mariappa is more pleasing on the eye because of his pace and athleticism but he was probably caught out more than Pearce last season and isn't as dominant in the air or as big a threat from set pieces. They're equally important and good to the club in a partnership and so I can understand Pearce wanting the same kind of deal.

IF he's been offered £25k for playing in the Championship I'd be surprised he'd be turning it down. I'm not too inclined to believe the secret footballer on that as I'm sure there's an element of chinese whispers and bragging involved there, not to mention a bit of poetic licence and dramatic exageration to make the article a better read.

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