Adkins - Pros and Cons

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Whore Jackie » 21 Oct 2014 13:12

Sanguine And as I said elsewhere, I'd be interested in our defensive stats with Guthrie in the side. He has his faults but he was an option for our defenders who rarely look comfortable on the ball.


Obita and Hector are comfortable on the ball. Gunter less so, particularly when McLeary isn't in front of him. Pearce has never looked overly comfortable, and he often gave the impression that he didn't particularly like passing to Guthrie. I'm not sure that Guthrie adds much more of a defensive element to the team than Norwood currently does. They're both ball-players. Surely that's what the other CM – in a two man midfield – is there for?

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Re: Nigel Adkins

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Oct 2014 13:59

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Woodcote Royal Someone, whatever the cost, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get rid off this twat :evil:




Now fcuk off.


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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Oct 2014 14:02

Ian Royal The only reason to change manager is because a vocal minority.....................


And the only reason to keep him is Grade A "get a Life" boring twats like you with 37,000 post to his name.

Are you as big a Pr*ck in real life :|
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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Oct 2014 14:05

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Sanguine » 21 Oct 2014 14:05

Silver Fox Did we take on a new manager at the start of this season also called nigel Adkins and looking a lot like the original Nigel Adkins? Only i'm confused by the pro-Adkins lobby's constant suggestion that he needs time as if he's only been in the job a couple of months


Come on SFers, you're much better than this. That's not what has been posted much at all. And there's no lobby. Fcuking hell.


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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Oct 2014 14:07

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Sanguine » 21 Oct 2014 14:07

Woodcote, people are disagreeing with you in part because you won't back up your assertions. It's not strange of me to suggest that we might have some idea who we want as manager, were we to sack Adkins, or some idea what we might want the new guy to do differently.

Yet you don't seem to.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Oct 2014 14:08

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by leon » 21 Oct 2014 14:10

I'm not a fan of Adkins - far from it, there is something deeply unlikeable about him that I can't put my finger on (as it were) but he's Reading manager and I want him/us to do well.

As far as I'm concerned he should have until the end of the season to, at a minimum show an improvement in performance - I think a finish around 10-12th would represent work in progress. If however we are drifting towards relegation around Xmas time we need to act fast.


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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by leon » 21 Oct 2014 14:12

not sure Ian Royal has got the message. You might want to post that again.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Oct 2014 14:15

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Woodcote Royal » 21 Oct 2014 14:22

Sanguine Woodcote, people are disagreeing with you in part because you won't back up your assertions. It's not strange of me to suggest that we might have some idea who we want as manager, were we to sack Adkins, or some idea what we might want the new guy to do differently.

Yet you don't seem to.


If you can't work out what changes the vast majority of fans want to see, that's your problem

HINT

Look at the league table

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Sanguine » 21 Oct 2014 14:34

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Sanguine Woodcote, people are disagreeing with you in part because you won't back up your assertions. It's not strange of me to suggest that we might have some idea who we want as manager, were we to sack Adkins, or some idea what we might want the new guy to do differently.

Yet you don't seem to.


If you can't work out what changes the vast majority of fans want to see, that's your problem

HINT

Look at the league table


Still avoiding the question?

We'd all like to be further up the table. That doesn't explain what you think a new manager would do differently.


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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by WoodleyRoyal » 21 Oct 2014 14:36

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Sanguine Woodcote, people are disagreeing with you in part because you won't back up your assertions. It's not strange of me to suggest that we might have some idea who we want as manager, were we to sack Adkins, or some idea what we might want the new guy to do differently.

Yet you don't seem to.


If you can't work out what changes the vast majority of fans want to see, that's your problem

HINT

Look at the league table


Sorry, the vast majority of fans? where have you got that from?

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by windermere_royal » 21 Oct 2014 14:42

Woodcote lives on his very own sad and lonely little planet, with his own sad little agenda, he decided the moment NA walked through the door that he didn`t want him here, and nothing will change his sad little mind.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by WoodleyRoyal » 21 Oct 2014 15:00

woodcote royal is having a mare here - thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends at this difficult time

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Sanguine » 21 Oct 2014 15:23

Far too many W-location Royals here for my health. :lol:

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Wycombe Royal » 21 Oct 2014 16:13

Sanguine Far too many W-location Royals here for my health. :lol:

Don't have a breakdown on our account......

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Zana Badawi » 21 Oct 2014 16:35

under the tin Back to topic, I find it puzzling that those who want Adkins out right now accuse those who see little point in that course of action right now of having "an agenda". Seems to me that if the cap fits.......


No-one has an agenda - this isnt a spy thriller with a surprise ending.

Sanguine Woodcote, people are disagreeing with you in part because you won't back up your assertions. It's not strange of me to suggest that we might have some idea who we want as manager, were we to sack Adkins, or some idea what we might want the new guy to do differently.


At the very minimum, I would like to see the new manager become involved in creating a club where attending a game was as enjoyable in the pre-NA era with the long term aim of returning the club to the joyful experiences of attending away games under Pardew.

The basis of this would be (and I appreciate that some of these appear obvious)
- Playing to our strengths.
- Regarding every team in the league as our competitor and competing with them
- Being OPENLY proud of your victories and disappointed with your losses
- Developing a better strategy for getting back into the game when going 1-0 down
- Changing the club captain to somebody with a community face
- Changing the team captain to someone we would want to play 40+ games a season
- Focusing the transfer strategy on the back four
- Removing any tendency to chase after players that have either (a) played for the new manager before or (b) played for Reading before.
- Meeting with the fans outside of an 'invitation only' environment
- Implementing a sports science structure to reduce the number of injuries.
- Better motivation for players to come back from injury
- Placing a game changer on the bench
- Rejuvenating better relationships with Radio Berks and getreading. Its what we read/listen to and we want to be proud of the team
- Talking of pride - show some interest in promotion.
- And of course, develop a culture of motivation and coaching where defenders can defend and attackers can score. It comes to something when our most dangerous player by some distance has been coached by another club.

The rest Ill leave to the qualified - i.e. any new manager that comes in.
Actually, although you might mock WR for his in-your-face style - Howe isnt that bad a shout - a manager having a degree of success under an ownership used to life outside the premiership. Not sure why we have to press WR any further - there are probably all sorts of managers around Europe we havent considered or even know about that could fit the bill.

under the tin I think there is a chance of seeing Adkins departure, but it might well be him getting pissed off, and walking away.


Not in today's environment - its all about the money. If your little sob story about how badly treated he's been is true (which it almost certainly is) he would have walked by now. He's literally p1ssing his career away here with his current performance. His excellant W/L ratio at Bangor City seems a bit irrelevant now.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Sanguine » 21 Oct 2014 16:51

I kind of assumed/hoped I'd get a response like that from WR - was the only reason I pressed him on it. It's all very well screaming 'Adkins out', but our club's ownership is all over the place and the playing squad is unbalanced. On that basis I think it will be difficult to attract many managers - not least the likes of Howe, who I would have here in a heartbeat. But why leave a well-run community club where he is thought the world of for a club like Reading?

Fair list for the new gaffer - but I'd argue few of those are symptoms of Adkins' time in charge or would necessarily change by bringing in someone new.

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