Dellor moaning about Vydra again!!!

[Hoop Blah]

I've just seen the miss on the Sky highlights. Yeah it was pretty poor finishing and the timing of it just magnifies things but it wasn't half as bad as I was expecting having heard Dellor's meltdown during the commentary.

The thing that highlights Dellor's issue most for me though is that both he and Gooding were berating Vydra for not moving/making a run and hiding away to avoid the chance coming his way. That's a wildly inaccurate description of what happened as Vydra showed very intelligent movement to drift in behind the two defenders and make an angle to allow Quinn to pick him out in plenty of space (with yet another excellent little pass).

The subsequent meltdown from Dellor was embarrassing broadcasting and I hope he realises that when he listens back to it but I'm pretty sure he won't.

McDermott's handling of the interview after was very worrying though. He sounds like he's lost the plot too.

[Maneki Neko]

clearly took the loss, and the miss very hard personally and is just as frustrated as we are/tim is

[sandman]

I've just seen the miss on the Sky highlights. Yeah it was pretty poor finishing and the timing of it just magnifies things but it wasn't half as bad as I was expecting having heard Dellor's meltdown during the commentary.

The thing that highlights Dellor's issue most for me though is that both he and Gooding were berating Vydra for not moving/making a run and hiding away to avoid the chance coming his way. That's a wildly inaccurate description of what happened as Vydra showed very intelligent movement to drift in behind the two defenders and make an angle to allow Quinn to pick him out in plenty of space (with yet another excellent little pass).

The subsequent meltdown from Dellor was embarrassing broadcasting and I hope he realises that when he listens back to it but I'm pretty sure he won't.

McDermott's handling of the interview after was very worrying though. He sounds like he's lost the plot too.

It was a dreadful miss, every bit as bad as it was described.

May be wrong but the comment about him hiding wasn't about the late miss last night, it was about previous chances he'd spurned in that match and previous matches like Brighton where he's taken a poor first touch away from the goalkeeper or an extra touch that was unneeded and narrowed the angle.

[Forbury Lion]

It does. Fans have a voice as a uni. We can drive him out. Just like we did with the manager.

[Hoop Blah]

Fair enough, it's not how I remembered the conversation they had just after the miss but I might be wrong. I thought it was specifically about that move as well as the rest of his short comings.

I disagree on the miss. It was bad yes, but the way Dellor went off on one I was expecting a lot worse.

[Maneki Neko]

I've just seen the miss on the Sky highlights. Yeah it was pretty poor finishing and the timing of it just magnifies things but it wasn't half as bad as I was expecting having heard Dellor's meltdown during the commentary.

The thing that highlights Dellor's issue most for me though is that both he and Gooding were berating Vydra for not moving/making a run and hiding away to avoid the chance coming his way. That's a wildly inaccurate description of what happened as Vydra showed very intelligent movement to drift in behind the two defenders and make an angle to allow Quinn to pick him out in plenty of space (with yet another excellent little pass).

The subsequent meltdown from Dellor was embarrassing broadcasting and I hope he realises that when he listens back to it but I'm pretty sure he won't.

McDermott's handling of the interview after was very worrying though. He sounds like he's lost the plot too.

It was a dreadful miss, every bit as bad as it was described.

May be wrong but the comment about him hiding wasn't about the late miss last night, it was about previous chances he'd spurned in that match and previous matches like Brighton where he's taken a poor first touch away from the goalkeeper or an extra touch that was unneeded and narrowed the angle.

which jst shows the daners of using words like hiding.

he's mentally shot- hes snatching at chances, or over thinking them
that's not cowardice or lack of bottle/fight- its just a complete collapse of confidence( im9o caused by being got rid of to the championship after winning his team promotion to the prem)

[Armadillo Roadkill]

McDermott's interview was very poor. There was nothing unfair or aggressive in Dellor's questions. If he hadn't asked them people would have rightly said he was ducking the difficult issues.

Talking to the media is part of McDermott's job, whether he likes it or not, and whether things are going well or badly.

If he can't take a few difficult questions and maintain his dignity we should be very worried indeed, as should his employers.

[Maneki Neko]

in the context of dellor mounting a weekly attack on vydra and epecting brian to come out and publicly agree with him
i think its a perfectly understandable response
but agree- its a bad interview.

[Armadillo Roadkill]

If Vydra ever plays well do you think Dellor would still criticise him? Personally I think he'd be delighted if Vydra pops up with a few well taken goals and assists in a game, and he wouldn't hesitate to give him credit.

What he probably can't explain is consistently picking an underperforming players who is a loanee. I can't understand it either, so I for one am just fine with Dellor's questions and comments.

[sandman]

It's not just Tim saying it.

"As Boro poured forward looking for a winner, it was actually Reading who had the game's gilt-edged opprotunity in the second half.

Boro were cut apart and Matej Vydra - usually so prolific in front of goal - was put through one-on-one with Dimi Konstantopoulos.

What happened next could be a pivotal moment in Boro's season, as the Watford loan man ballooned his effort over the bar - an extraordinary miss.

Had Vydra scored, it would have been very different. We'll never know truly how important that moment is in the context of Boro's season."

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/late-shows-no-fluke-george-11177422

[sandman]

The only thing worse than Vydra's miss was his defending for the winner.

[John Smith]

It was a dreadful miss, every bit as bad as it was described.

May be wrong but the comment about him hiding wasn't about the late miss last night, it was about previous chances he'd spurned in that match and previous matches like Brighton where he's taken a poor first touch away from the goalkeeper or an extra touch that was unneeded and narrowed the angle.

sandman popping up with the correct answer here folks. Please don't be blind, naive and weak minded to 'accept' moments like that. Imagine if it was us in Boro's shoes and he was spurning our title chances over the bar.

[The Sum of the Parts]

So, there's a player who's made a major blunder and who's clearly massively short of confidence.

His manager can either:

a) Defend him and refuse to get drawn into public criticism of him,
b) Agree that he's sh*t and that if "he was a dog he'd have been shot" - and allow that to be broadcast.

If you were his manager, trying to build up a team who have had obvious issues of confidence and motivation, and if you know that "the group" is such an important part of teamwork, what would you do?

And if you were the player, which option would you expect from your manager?

[No Fixed Abode]

You can only think Reading are going to sign Vydra permanently in the summer. Otherwise there is really no point starting with him.

[Hoop Blah]

If Vydra ever plays well do you think Dellor would still criticise him? Personally I think he'd be delighted if Vydra pops up with a few well taken goals and assists in a game, and he wouldn't hesitate to give him credit.

What he probably can't explain is consistently picking an underperforming players who is a loanee. I can't understand it either, so I for one am just fine with Dellor's questions and comments.

He dropped him for the previous two games but there was nobody else fit last night.

Do you really think playing Cox upfront on his own would've served us better?

[Armadillo Roadkill]

If Vydra ever plays well do you think Dellor would still criticise him? Personally I think he'd be delighted if Vydra pops up with a few well taken goals and assists in a game, and he wouldn't hesitate to give him credit.

What he probably can't explain is consistently picking an underperforming players who is a loanee. I can't understand it either, so I for one am just fine with Dellor's questions and comments.

He dropped him for the previous two games but there was nobody else fit last night.

Do you really think playing Cox upfront on his own would've served us better?

Quite frankly, yes I do.

[Esteban]

I can understand McDermott's reaction to Dellor asking the same question after every game. Dellor wants Brian to say Vydra is a waste of space, so that he can feel justified in saying it all the time. He's not going to, because he wants his players to trust him.

And massive LOL at Dellor for 'quoting' Mick Gooding. Dellor said in commentary "Vydra is mentally shot, am I right in saying that Mick?" which Gooding agreed with. Yes, Gooding did say it, but only in response to Dellor. Grow a pair Tim and don't hide behind Gooding.

I'm glad McDermott refused to publicly complain about Vydra and I am also pleased to hear some anger in his voice.

[floyd__streete]

And so - despite the patchy form of the team, the absymal lack of impact made by expensive loan signings, the risible decision not to use young players towards the end of this season in favour of said loan signings who aren't even going to be here next season and the continued question marks over the owners and their strategy and intentions - the obsession with what a local journalist is saying continues

[KC Royal]

Not saying they should be axed completely but it's time for a fresh voice or two to help mix things up.

I agree with this. About 10 games ago one of them - I think Ady - couldn't make the game so someone else stepped in. It was just refreshing hearing someone else.

As I put in the BBCRB forum, I am getting fed up with the current set up with:

Tim: "A stat for you... when Reading play at home, and it's a cloudy day, with the wind between 10 and 22mph, they will 7.2 times out of 10 draw the game.... are you following me?"

and Ady: "if we win the next 10 games, then we will be 6th - so it's not all bad..." and then Tim ... "Yes but if we lose the next 10 we will be 22nd".

..............

I think you're right, a fresh voice, some proper debate between different types of fans would be excellent.

Or, what about this... have a guest fan (a proper fan who goes to all home games and some away) every week.

Was the person who filled in for Adie, Mike Williams? He's definitely presented the coverage for at least one of the games I've been to this season, and I'm sure he's filled in for Dellor on commentary duties in the past too. Also a Reading fan I believe, but not sure how many games he gets to. Also works for 5 Live, think I've heard him on there in the past - so like Jonny Saunders, someone who I always liked and who IIRC filled in for one game around Christmas in the last PL season.

I know Jonny Saunders doesn't work in the industry anymore, it was a surprise to hear him a few years ago but I guess it fitted in well with his teaching commitments, but maybe use either of them more often?

[Ian Royal]

Seen the highlights and Vydra's miss. It's poor, he should hit the target. But yet another massive over-reaction from dipshit dellor just like with the penalty.

If it wasn't for the fact i know he's a melodramatic hyperstrung moron with a vendetta I'd have been expecting something far far far worse.