Selles not out

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Should Selles be shown the door now before the inevitable mid season sacking

Yes (and appoint Ian)
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46%
No (it's a wonderful appointment and he'll get the club to scale heights never before seen at Reading)
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44%
He won't be appointed in the first place
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10%
 
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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Oct 2023 18:04

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From:
https://twitter.com/JH7123/status/1710922408889135152

This goes back to last season too, so may not be age related just a more general issue at the club with fitness/training?

Championship:

Sunderland 86th minute
Blackburn 83rd
Cardiff 91st
Preston 93rd

League 1:

Exeter 93rd
Cambridge 83rd
Orient 90th.

I think it's more mentality than fitness. Somebody always makes a mistake late on, even if it's a different culprit every time.

I also think there's also a tactically element to it: try and sit in for a point, which invites pressure.

Iirc The Exeter and Cambridge ones came from breaks, so we were more pressing forward.

Orient a different matter.

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Re: Selles out

by Clyde1998 » 09 Oct 2023 18:18

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WestYorksRoyal I think it's more mentality than fitness. Somebody always makes a mistake late on, even if it's a different culprit every time.

I also think there's also a tactically element to it: try and sit in for a point, which invites pressure.

Iirc The Exeter and Cambridge ones came from breaks, so we were more pressing forward.

Orient a different matter.

That's true, although didn't the Exeter goal come from a long throw when we had players back? Can't remember what led to the throw in mind. Exeter and Cambridge I'm less concerned about, as how we played in the last fifteen of those games could've easily ended with us winning as much as losing. It's more the ones last season and Orient.

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Oct 2023 18:30

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Clyde1998 I also think there's also a tactically element to it: try and sit in for a point, which invites pressure.

Iirc The Exeter and Cambridge ones came from breaks, so we were more pressing forward.

Orient a different matter.

That's true, although didn't the Exeter goal come from a long throw when we had players back? Can't remember what led to the throw in mind. Exeter and Cambridge I'm less concerned about, as how we played in the last fifteen of those games could've easily ended with us winning as much as losing. It's more the ones last season and Orient.

Bit foggy at themoment, so may have them confused, but I thought one break led to a corner, could have been throw

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Re: Selles out

by WestYorksRoyal » 09 Oct 2023 18:35

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Snowflake Royal Iirc The Exeter and Cambridge ones came from breaks, so we were more pressing forward.

Orient a different matter.

That's true, although didn't the Exeter goal come from a long throw when we had players back? Can't remember what led to the throw in mind. Exeter and Cambridge I'm less concerned about, as how we played in the last fifteen of those games could've easily ended with us winning as much as losing. It's more the ones last season and Orient.

Bit foggy at themoment, so may have them confused, but I thought one break led to a corner, could have been throw

Any one of them in isolation you may conclude that we're unlucky, but you clearly can't conclude that when it happens every week. Perhaps they're not the same in nature and have different causes but we consistently find a way of losing.

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 09 Oct 2023 18:36

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Clyde1998 That's true, although didn't the Exeter goal come from a long throw when we had players back? Can't remember what led to the throw in mind. Exeter and Cambridge I'm less concerned about, as how we played in the last fifteen of those games could've easily ended with us winning as much as losing. It's more the ones last season and Orient.

Bit foggy at themoment, so may have them confused, but I thought one break led to a corner, could have been throw

Any one of them in isolation you may conclude that we're unlucky, but you clearly can't conclude that when it happens every week. Perhaps they're not the same in nature and have different causes but we consistently find a way of losing.

3 out of 11 isn't a very good sample to prove anything.


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Re: Selles out

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 10 Oct 2023 08:28

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YorkshireRoyal99 It seems to be we are running out of steam late on in games, possibly suggesting that we aren't using our subs correctly? How many times have we lost by the odd goal in the last 10 minutes of games, Cambridge, Leyton Orient and Exeter?

I remember Hunt making a comment last season about a lot of the academy players being technically good, but didn't have the fitness levels to keep up with the intensity of league football which is where they needed progress.

The fact that Selles regularly uses all his subs should probably put that part to bed.

Although I wouldn’t say he's using them in the right way or at the right time necessarily.

There's a couple of players who fade, Big Kelvin E one of them. But mostly it's errors.

Iirc Dean fell apart in the build up to both the Exeter and Cambridge winner.


Yeah I didn't suggest he wasn't using his subs, although I was suggesting that perhaps we aren't using them correctly. It could also be a case of mentality as well which has been mentioned. In truth, it's probably several factors collectively.

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Re: Selles out

by Mid Sussex Royal » 11 Oct 2023 17:39

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From:
https://twitter.com/JH7123/status/1710922408889135152

This goes back to last season too, so may not be age related just a more general issue at the club with fitness/training?

Championship:

Sunderland 86th minute
Blackburn 83rd
Cardiff 91st
Preston 93rd

League 1:

Exeter 93rd
Cambridge 83rd
Orient 90th.

I think it's more mentality than fitness. Somebody always makes a mistake late on, even if it's a different culprit every time.

I also think there's also a tactically element to it: try and sit in for a point, which invites pressure.


This doesn't take into account points won late on

This season Bolton (89) = 2 extra points which nullifies 2 of the 3 lost above as were drawing positions.

Last season similar probably...without thinking:

Hull injury time winner
Norwich away late equaliser
Rotherham home injury time winner

Always found it tends to balance out over a season

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Re: Selles out

by Royalwaster » 11 Oct 2023 18:29

karbota We have got to make a bid for Parky, on a shoestring budget he has got Wrexham within 4 points off the top position in Div 2, he could even bring some decent players with him.


Yeah or maybe Guardiola instead - has managed to somehow win the treble with Manchester City despite having virtually no money to spend.

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Re: Selles out

by Sutekh » 12 Oct 2023 10:51

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WestYorksRoyal I think it's more mentality than fitness. Somebody always makes a mistake late on, even if it's a different culprit every time.

I also think there's also a tactically element to it: try and sit in for a point, which invites pressure.


This doesn't take into account points won late on

This season Bolton (89) = 2 extra points which nullifies 2 of the 3 lost above as were drawing positions.

Last season similar probably...without thinking:

Hull injury time winner
Norwich away late equaliser
Rotherham home injury time winner

Always found it tends to balance out over a season


Counterbalace Burnley 2-1 Reading and the ref apparently calling Ince to apologise afterwards.


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Re: Selles out

by morganb » 19 Oct 2023 09:49

Two more managers let go/now available - Gary Rowett sacked by Millwall and Lincoln City have parted company with Mark Kennedy.

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by Franchise FC » 19 Oct 2023 09:51

morganb Two more managers let go/now available - Gary Rowett sacked by Millwall and Lincoln City have parted company with Mark Kennedy.

Yeah, because the revolving door of managerial appointments has been soooooo successful to date.

On what planet are we going to change the manager when there's takeover talk going on

By the way, why do we think those managers have been let go ?

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Re: Selles out

by Snowflake Royal » 19 Oct 2023 10:38

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morganb Two more managers let go/now available - Gary Rowett sacked by Millwall and Lincoln City have parted company with Mark Kennedy.

Yeah, because the revolving door of managerial appointments has been soooooo successful to date.

On what planet are we going to change the manager when there's takeover talk going on

By the way, why do we think those managers have been let go ?

Have you considered the revolving door might stop if we ever appointed anyone with relevant managerial experience rather than yet another hopeless flash git coach or overseas failure?

And that if takeover negotiations are at any sort of advanced stage the prospective new owner could be involved in the decision before its official

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Re: Selles out

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 19 Oct 2023 11:42

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morganb Two more managers let go/now available - Gary Rowett sacked by Millwall and Lincoln City have parted company with Mark Kennedy.

Yeah, because the revolving door of managerial appointments has been soooooo successful to date.

On what planet are we going to change the manager when there's takeover talk going on

By the way, why do we think those managers have been let go ?

Have you considered the revolving door might stop if we ever appointed anyone with relevant managerial experience rather than yet another hopeless flash git coach or overseas failure?

And that if takeover negotiations are at any sort of advanced stage the prospective new owner could be involved in the decision before its official


It's not just about where they have coached or what previous experiences they have had, there is far more to it than just that. You can easily pull a manager with no experience in English football and be successful (Farke at Norwich, Wagner at Huddersfield), just like you can easily pull a flashy coach from elsewhere and be successful (McKenna at Ipswich). Other clubs have appointed experienced managers for their respective divisions, and failed/currently failing (Allardyce at West Brom, Pulis at Sheffield Wednesday, Pardew at West Brom, Alex Neil currently at Stoke).


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Re: Selles out

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Re: Selles out

by Loafer » 20 Oct 2023 04:05

You know when Ian pulls the :roll: He has no response and is wrong :lol:

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Re: Selles out

by SouthDownsRoyal » 21 Oct 2023 16:59

Am I allowed to say it?

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by Millsy » 21 Oct 2023 17:01

SouthDownsRoyal Am I allowed to say it?


No you'll trigger some people.

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Re: Selles out

by blythspartan » 21 Oct 2023 17:03

Selles OUT!!!!

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Re: Selles out

by SouthDownsRoyal » 21 Oct 2023 17:04

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No you'll trigger some people.


Ok I won’t say it.

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