Jobi reaction to ml sub

[winchester_royal]

Jobi and Ledge are bezzies so no surprise the McAnuff will side with him over a crowd that has been total cunts to the pair of them all season.

It's becoming increasingly hard to see a situation where the crowd and this squad are pulling in the same direction in perfect harmony again..

[Colin Cheeselog]

I cheered then third after Legs left the pitch because Guthrie was finally being brought on

That's understandable, Guthrie has been BRILLIANT for us after all. Some of those 5 yard sideways passes are breath taking.

[Wimb]

A new TTE writer has jotted down his feelings on the Ledge booing.

http://www.thetilehurstend.com/2013/3/1 ... eigertwood

[Royals-lad14]

jobi and ledge have been criticized for almost everything they have down wrong this season when actually back in november ledge was playing pretty decent. Jobi has the highest amount of assists in the team and also works his socks off, however the problem is he gets caught out of position too many times leaving harte exposed.

The sarcastic cheer when ledge went off was embarrassing no player should get treated like that and i feel sorry for the bloke. It is clear ledge and jobi aren't cut out for the premiership, but fans giving them stick all the time does not help at all their confidence must be shot right now.

[holsgrove breaks a leg]

Simply do not understand all the Jobi hate at the moment.

People just seem unable to see any good things he does. He hasn't had a great season, but was by no means our worst player yesterday. Set up the first goal and the disallowed one. Got his fullback booked and keeps showing for the ball (which is what I suspect McD means when he calls him brave).

Even Legs (who has largely struggled) is always giving 100%, in the right system I don't doubt he would be a useful player to have in the squad. Not his fault we have been unable/unwilling to purchase a player who plays his role to a higher standard.

Don't get me wrong, yesterday was a shambles, but you don't boo players who are busting a gut. If they weren't trying then I could understand....but I just don't think that is an accusation that you can level at them.

Absolutely the level of vitriol towards players is over the top, however to protect against the majority of Jobi's performances this season are quite another thing. As a winger your brief is to take players on, beat them and cross - the only tick box Jobi is managing is crossing it, but not by taking players on or beating them but purely when the ball happens to come to him from the middle or deflections. The likes of HRK and Mcleary look lively, are pacey and are willing to take players on, so when their chances have been at a premium it is mystifying as to why Jobi has been given the lion's share of games. Whilst the midfield in general (apart from perhaps Kebe) have been woefully short on goals, the fact that Jobi has not even registered a league goal this season is pretty poor.With Kebe his problem is confidence, when it goes he hides - however he has that natural pace to get away with it-for Jobi this is not the case. I guess a large part of the problem is our slow rb/lb's who never support or join in the attacks leaving a large gap for both Kebe/Jobi to try and make an opening - which also sees a huge gap between these positions when we are caught on the counter.

[Avon Royal]

The cheer was for Gutherie coming on, not Ledge going off. It was aimed at McDermott not the player.

Of course it helps some people's agenda to continue to misinterpret it - Brian included.

[Victor Meldrew]

I'm not knocking Jobi but to say he set up our first goal is bordering on the embarrassing. This is something he's done a lot this season, just pinging a ball in the box without looking to see if any Reading players are there. It came off TWO Villa defenders on it's way to the net. No Reading players ere attacking the ball.

Yes, he's putting the ball into the box in dangerous positions but he hasn't got the nouce to realise when there are supporting players in the box or not. That's the difference between a Championship and a Premiership player.

Have you been drinking AIDS?

The only thing bordering on embarrassing is your post. How can you say he didn't set up the goal then go on to admit he puts the ball into dangerous positions? He crossed it for Akpan whose flick went in via some LOL contributions from the Villa defence.

He made both our "goals" yesterday. Simple as that.

So if a keeper wellies the ball downfield ,a striker flicks it on and a defender puts it into his own net the keeper should claim the type of credit that you are giving Jobi for just putting the ball into the box?
You are either Jobi himself or maybe Brian for giving a player credit for an assist for a goal that wasn't even a goal.

[RoyalBlue]

I cheered then third after Legs left the pitch because Guthrie was finally being brought on

That's understandable, Guthrie has been BRILLIANT for us after all. Some of those 5 yard sideways passes are breath taking.

At least he can pass the f*cking ball. The reason he hasn't delivered much is that he hasn't been allowed to play. And if he is really no good then that is another massive f*ck up by McDermott. No good him bleating about funds and then p*ssing them away on a player that he can't manage and won't play.

I am sick and tired of McDermott's useless hoof tactics that result in us ending up with just 39% possession and gifting points away. Contrast with Villa who just kept passing the ball until our 'defence' obligingly parted like the Red Sea and allowed them to score. FFS we didn't even try to take the ball off them! 'He used to manage Slough - it's really showing now'.

jobi and ledge have been criticized for almost everything they have down wrong this season when actually back in november ledge was playing pretty decent. Jobi has the highest amount of assists in the team and also works his socks off, however the problem is he gets caught out of position too many times leaving harte exposed.

The sarcastic cheer when ledge went off was embarrassing no player should get treated like that and i feel sorry for the bloke. It is clear ledge and jobi aren't cut out for the premiership, but fans giving them stick all the time does not help at all their confidence must be shot right now.

Agreed. It is a great shame that players are exposed to the crowd's vitriol when the real villains of the piece are stood on the touchline. McDermott assembles the squad (with lots of players who clearly aren't good enough for this level) and it is McDermott who picks a team, which features quite a few players who clearly aren't good enough for this level. To top off all of that, McDermott then further insults our intelligence by claiming that Blackman played well when he came on. Maybe he will be a good player at some time in the future but to have signed him and then be playing him now in the hope of saving our PL status was an act of utter madness!

[Colin Cheeselog]

The cheer was for Gutherie coming on, not Ledge going off. It was aimed at McDermott not the player.

Of course it helps some people's agenda to continue to misinterpret it - Brian included.

Did you personally speak to every single mong in the crowd to confirm this?

[royal_ross]

No problem with McAnuff's reaction, same with anyone if their workmate was getting a hard time unfairly they'd stick up for them. Legs has been class last few seasons whilst this season yes he has been found short at this level. That is DOWN to the management not him. I've heard stuff on twitter that has been bordeline personal abuse, this guy gives us 100% every time he plays yet he still gets barracked. The cheering he got when he went off, even if it was aimed at Brian, was still pathetic.

[P!ssed Off]

McAnuff has perhaps often been judged too harshly this season and before that. As a Winger, to get two assists or create 2 or 3 clear cut chances in a match is a very impressive performance of course, it does not really matter if you go 'missing' for the majority of the match.

However, McAnuff is also captain and for this role a player must be present the whole match, they cannot go 'missing' for large chunks. A captain is judged for the spirit of the team as well as the team's overall performance.

Imagine if Le Fondre was captain. People would no longer say "he had two chances and scored both, what more can you ask from a poacher", they would judge him on the basis that he is a poacher and captain, and therefore expect more from him than they currently do.

I believe McDermott should not have made McAnuff captain, he is not suitable for the role. Added to this is that McDermott's team selection this season, with McAnuff starting every game and coming off only once means that McDermott clearly sees him as a key player. Therefore, McAnuff's performance in the match is rated in comparison of what might be expected from a Winger/Key Player/Captain, an expectation hard to live up to week in week out.

Has Leigertwood been judged too harshly? No. When he came back in January or so, I think he played well against Newcastle and West Ham. Other than that he has been poor all season. Whilst McDermott is to blame for putting him in the team every week, Leigertwood must also take responsibility for his sub-par performances.

[The Royal]

McAnuff has perhaps often been judged too harshly this season and before that. As a Winger, to get two assists or create 2 or 3 clear cut chances in a match is a very impressive performance of course, it does not really matter if you go 'missing' for the majority of the match.

However, McAnuff is also captain and for this role a player must be present the whole match, they cannot go 'missing' for large chunks. A captain is judged for the spirit of the team as well as the team's overall performance.

Imagine if Le Fondre was captain. People would no longer say "he had two chances and scored both, what more can you ask from a poacher", they would judge him on the basis that he is a poacher and captain, and therefore expect more from him than they currently do.

I believe McDermott should not have made McAnuff captain, he is not suitable for the role. Added to this is that McDermott's team selection this season, with McAnuff starting every game and coming off only once means that McDermott clearly sees him as a key player. Therefore, McAnuff's performance in the match is rated in comparison of what might be expected from a Winger/Key Player/Captain, an expectation hard to live up to week in week out.

Has Leigertwood been judged too harshly? No. When he came back in January or so, I think he played well against Newcastle and West Ham. Other than that he has been poor all season. Whilst McDermott is to blame for putting him in the team every week, Leigertwood must also take responsibility for his sub-par performances.

he m,ust take responsibility for his own performances yes, but he can only play to the best of his ability, which is obviously not good enough at this lvl, so there for the blame lies with brian

[72 bus]

Simply do not understand all the Jobi hate at the moment.

People just seem unable to see any good things he does. He hasn't had a great season, but was by no means our worst player yesterday. Set up the first goal and the disallowed one. Got his fullback booked and keeps showing for the ball (which is what I suspect McD means when he calls him brave).

Even Legs (who has largely struggled) is always giving 100%, in the right system I don't doubt he would be a useful player to have in the squad. Not his fault we have been unable/unwilling to purchase a player who plays his role to a higher standard.

Don't get me wrong, yesterday was a shambles, but you don't boo players who are busting a gut. If they weren't trying then I could understand....but I just don't think that is an accusation that you can level at them.

At no point yesterday could Legs be accused of "busting a gut", he never even breaks into a brisk trot, I have seen people move around the Oracle quicker than he gets around the pitch.

[P!ssed Off]

he m,ust take responsibility for his own performances yes, but he can only play to the best of his ability, which is obviously not good enough at this lvl, so there for the blame lies with brian

I agree Brian is mostly to blame, but for me Leigertwood's ability has actually decreased since last year. He was never the best of passers, but unless I'm mistaken he could pass five metres last season when not under immediate pressure. The way Leigertwood is playing this season would not be good enough for the Championship. A step up in division requires increased ability, but I cannot see an excuse for Leigertwood's apparent decline in ability.

Leigertwood's performances this season have been below his ability, not in line with his abilities. I think even he might admit to this.

[BenSmith91]

The cheer was for Gutherie coming on, not Ledge going off. It was aimed at McDermott not the player.

Of course it helps some people's agenda to continue to misinterpret it - Brian included.

Who is this Gutherie chap?

[Avon Royal]

The cheer was for Gutherie coming on, not Ledge going off. It was aimed at McDermott not the player.

Of course it helps some people's agenda to continue to misinterpret it - Brian included.

Who is this Gutherie chap?

New signing from FC Autocorrect

[Avon Royal]

Did you personally speak to every single mong in the crowd to confirm this?

"Mong"? Really? Are you 12?

[Colin Cheeselog]

Did you personally speak to every single mong in the crowd to confirm this?

"Mong"? Really? Are you 12?

11. What's your point?

Just because you may have been booing McDermot / the choice of subs, that doesn't mean that everybody was. The sheep mentality mongs (yes, mongs again - do you prefer fúcktards?) around me were abusing McAnuff and Leigertwood literally from the first couple of minutes.

[Avon Royal]

yes, mongs again - do you prefer fúcktards?

Oh dear.

[Esteban]

Makes no odds to me whether the players are poor, the subs are predictable, or whatever. We're in a relegation scrap, booing for whatever reason won't help. I'm not surprised McAnuff was frustrated with the fans. We should have created an atmosphere that would have intimidated a young Villa side, but instead, we sounded like the away team. It's easy to support a team that's winning, you make yourself count when things are tough. The Villa fans, who arguably have more to complain about than us, we're magnificent all game.

We have the worst fans in the league, for the most part. Thankfully, there is a core of us who'll wholeheartedly support the team whilst in the stadium and only vent frustrations on forums like this one.