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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by 3points » 16 Jun 2015 22:09

Ouagadougou I don't know, I just don't think such logic always applies in the running of football clubs, let alone Reading. I can't see what's in it for him otherwise, anyway. Why cut short your contract at a Europa League club for the Championship if it's not a pay rise you're after? He looks to me like the sort of flash player who'd expect it.
I think the club are willing to make exceptions for such 'special' players.

Almost definitely getting a pay rise. Very few leagues around the world pay much money which is why so many players want to play in the Premier League or the Championship. I once saw that Michu was earning 2k per week in Spain before he moved to Swansea. Bradley Wright-Philips is earning $300,000 per year, Nigel Reo-Coker $400,000 per year in the MLS. If Sa gets 10k per week (which I think might be on the high side given the intentions of balancing the books as much as possible), i'd expect it to be a major pay rise, yet still cheaper than many of our current (and recent) first (and reserve) team players.

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by 3points » 16 Jun 2015 22:29

Dave-Royal you don't no that he be on 10k
u fool

No I don't, it's called speculation and trying to prove a point (in that in my opinion (not fact) he'd be cheaper than many of our current players). Players in leagues like Cyprus and Poland do not earn much money as those leagues don't have massive Sky TV and BT Sport contracts. Why do you think he'd sign for Reading?

However, i must clearly bow down to your superior knowledge of football given you work in both the ticket office and you're a football agent

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by ayjaydee » 16 Jun 2015 22:43

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Ouagadougou I don't know, I just don't think such logic always applies in the running of football clubs, let alone Reading. I can't see what's in it for him otherwise, anyway. Why cut short your contract at a Europa League club for the Championship if it's not a pay rise you're after? He looks to me like the sort of flash player who'd expect it.
I think the club are willing to make exceptions for such 'special' players.

Almost definitely getting a pay rise. Very few leagues around the world pay much money which is why so many players want to play in the Premier League or the Championship. I once saw that Michu was earning 2k per week in Spain before he moved to Swansea. Bradley Wright-Philips is earning $300,000 per year, Nigel Reo-Coker $400,000 per year in the MLS. If Sa gets 10k per week (which I think might be on the high side given the intentions of balancing the books as much as possible), i'd expect it to be a major pay rise, yet still cheaper than many of our current (and recent) first (and reserve) team players.


Even in the major European leagues the wage bills are substantially lower than in the Prem. In 13/14 the lowest wage bill in the Prem was Cardiff at €74.5m. The TOP team in the Bundesliga was Bayern at €36.9 and excluding the obvious two the top in La Liga was Sevilla at €44m.

My guess would be that a top Polish side would probably be paying top end League 1 wages. There is also the problem in many foreign countries of wages being consistently late or not being paid at all.

It is not beyond the realms of possibility that we could get this guy for a lot less than we are paying a good number of our current squad.

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by 3points » 16 Jun 2015 22:54

ayjaydee Even in the major European leagues the wage bills are substantially lower than in the Prem. In 13/14 the lowest wage bill in the Prem was Cardiff at €74.5m. The TOP team in the Bundesliga was Bayern at €36.9 and excluding the obvious two the top in La Liga was Sevilla at €44m.

My guess would be that a top Polish side would probably be paying top end League 1 wages. There is also the problem in many foreign countries of wages being consistently late or not being paid at all.

It is not beyond the realms of possibility that we could get this guy for a lot less than we are paying a good number of our current squad.

Found this - thought it made interesting reading

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -year.html

Average wage in Polish top flight is 2k per week, compared to nearly 10k in the Championship. I'd also imagine the French league number is massively skewed by PSG and Monaco

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by 3points » 16 Jun 2015 23:00

Dave-Royal just you wait and see when it announced you will have to say sorry to special Dave ok

Never said the deal won't happen. Just making a guess about the guy's wages and that he, in my opinion, will be cheap as chips because the Polish league average salary is about 2k per week.

This is, after all, a fans forum where we share (largely) uncorroborated opinions. Very few true ITKers on here and Dave (or is it James), you're not one of them. Reading the Getreading website doesn't make you ITK


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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Simon's Church » 17 Jun 2015 00:00

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In 13/14 the lowest wage bill in the Prem was Cardiff at €74.5m. The TOP team in the Bundesliga was Bayern at €36.9


Yeah, pretty sure that's not true :|

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Nameless » 17 Jun 2015 08:02

One Google search reveals a host of recent reports that Bayern's current wage bill is around 180 million euro, up 30 million from the previous season.
Not sure where that leaves all the other facts in this argument !

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Froomes » 17 Jun 2015 08:03

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Even in the major European leagues the wage bills are substantially lower than in the Prem. In 13/14 the lowest wage bill in the Prem was Cardiff at €74.5m. The TOP team in the Bundesliga was Bayern at €36.9 and excluding the obvious two the top in La Liga was Sevilla at €44m.


Yeah you missed out a '1' at the front of that number!

Heynckes treble winning team of 2013 had a wage bill approaching €150m and Pep's team have just topped €180m. Munich have had a wage bill in excess of €100m since the mid 2000's.

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Hoop Blah » 17 Jun 2015 09:51

PistolPete If this is true, then it's GREAT news. Not because of the player, but because it shows we have some money to spend and that a keeper, centre half and a few other positions are probably not far behind. We're not stupid enough to spunk the whole budget on one player!


I'd go along with that logic.

We're unlikely to blow the budget on a forward at this stage (if the rumour is true that is) without being at least a little comfortable that other positions are looking on track for reasonable additions.

No idea what this guy is like though, but he's had a decent enough scoring record and is a big lad so hopefully someone along the lines of Murray who can lead the line and get on the end of the chances. It does look a little odd that he's moved about so much though.


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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by maffff » 17 Jun 2015 10:54

Sa is Legia's highest earner on about €300,000 a year according to http://wbj.pl/legias-big-dreams/

So that's £216,000 a year.

or £4153.85 a week.

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Royalcop » 17 Jun 2015 16:18

maffff Sa is Legia's highest earner on about €300,000 a year according to http://wbj.pl/legias-big-dreams/

So that's £216,000 a year.

or £4153.85 a week.


Even allowing for cost of living and tax disparity, we could probably double that salary and he'd be a lot better off plus playing in a higher profile league.

Wasn't Dariusz managing Legia fairly recently? Wonder if he still has contact with RFC and tipped us off?

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Sutekh » 17 Jun 2015 16:24

Will what he gets paid make him a better player then?

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Ouagadougou » 17 Jun 2015 16:40

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Ouagadougou I don't know, I just don't think such logic always applies in the running of football clubs, let alone Reading. I can't see what's in it for him otherwise, anyway. Why cut short your contract at a Europa League club for the Championship if it's not a pay rise you're after? He looks to me like the sort of flash player who'd expect it.
I think the club are willing to make exceptions for such 'special' players.

Almost definitely getting a pay rise. Very few leagues around the world pay much money which is why so many players want to play in the Premier League or the Championship. I once saw that Michu was earning 2k per week in Spain before he moved to Swansea. Bradley Wright-Philips is earning $300,000 per year, Nigel Reo-Coker $400,000 per year in the MLS. If Sa gets 10k per week (which I think might be on the high side given the intentions of balancing the books as much as possible), i'd expect it to be a major pay rise, yet still cheaper than many of our current (and recent) first (and reserve) team players.


Even in the major European leagues the wage bills are substantially lower than in the Prem. In 13/14 the lowest wage bill in the Prem was Cardiff at €74.5m. The TOP team in the Bundesliga was Bayern at €36.9 and excluding the obvious two the top in La Liga was Sevilla at €44m.

My guess would be that a top Polish side would probably be paying top end League 1 wages. There is also the problem in many foreign countries of wages being consistently late or not being paid at all.

It is not beyond the realms of possibility that we could get this guy for a lot less than we are paying a good number of our current squad.


Fair doozy


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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by ayjaydee » 17 Jun 2015 19:52

Sutekh Will what he gets paid make him a better player then?


Didn't work for Pog

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Coppelled_Streets » 18 Jun 2015 12:21

Apparently cooled our interest. :lol:

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Sutekh » 18 Jun 2015 12:44

Wages a problem apparently.

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Coppelled_Streets » 18 Jun 2015 12:45

Sa was on 4k a week there. :lol:

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Pepe the Horseman » 18 Jun 2015 13:00

Coppelled_Streets Apparently cooled our interest. :lol:

Where have you read that?

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by maffff » 18 Jun 2015 13:30

Sutekh Wages* a problem apparently.


*transfer fee.

Reports had suggested the 27-year-old striker could become Clarke’s first signing of the summer but it seems that Reading and the Polish side remain vastly apart in their valuation of the troublesome Portuguese forward. - See more at: http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport ... PTcG7.dpuf

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Re: Speculation - Orlando Sa

by Sutekh » 18 Jun 2015 13:35

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Sutekh Wages* a problem apparently.


*transfer fee.

Reports had suggested the 27-year-old striker could become Clarke’s first signing of the summer but it seems that Reading and the Polish side remain vastly apart in their valuation of the troublesome Portuguese forward. - See more at: http://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport ... PTcG7.dpuf


Reading are trying their usual negotiation skills on transfer fees, we've just negotiated proposal B out the door :


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